What are the conflicts between atheism and science?

Jan Ardena said:
What do you mean by "a particular definition of god"?
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It's quite simple.
You have declared that:
"If it's not God, then it's not theist."
In response to:
"If there's a belief in god (in whatever form) then it cannot be atheist."
Which indicates that you have some particular definition (or idea) of what form god takes, and that you consider anything that doesn't conform to that is automatically NOT god.
 
Dywyddyr said:
It's quite simple.
You have declared that:
"If it's not God, then it's not theist."
In response to:
"If there's a belief in god (in whatever form) then it cannot be atheist."
Which indicates that you have some particular definition (or idea) of what form god takes, and that you consider anything that doesn't conform to that is automatically NOT god.
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Let me put it another way.

What are the particular definitions of God?

jan.
 
Jan Ardena said:
Let me put it another way.
What are the particular definitions of God?
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I have never seen a definitive definition of god, they all seem to vary with whoever's giving it.
Why don't you tell me since this is the case?
 
Jan Ardena said:
What am I suppose to be looking for?
jan.
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Did you, or did you not, ask
Jan Ardena said:
What are the particular definitions of God?
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Each one of those links gives AT LEAST one "definition" of god.
Since you were asking for a definition I have provided a selection of possibles. Which one you choose is up to you. Or reject them all and use one of your own.
 
Dywyddyr said:
Did you, or did you not, ask

Each one of those links gives AT LEAST one "definition" of god.
Since you were asking for a definition I have provided a selection of possibles. Which one you choose is up to you. Or reject them all and use one of your own.
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We're talking about theism, or what makes a theist a theist.
The ones which are theist, display different conceptions of God, from different perspectives. I'm interest in out and out different definitions, just like you assert.

jan.
 
Jan Ardena said:
We're talking about theism, or what makes a theist a theist.
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And one of the things that makes a theist a theist is a belief in god. Yet they all seem to have different definitions/ concepts: at least one of which you apparently deny.

The ones which are theist, display different conceptions of God, from different perspectives.
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Which is exactly the point I made and that you contested.

I'm interest in out and out different definitions, just like you assert.
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I asserted nothing.
 
Dywyddyr said:
And one of the things that makes a theist a theist is a belief in god. Yet they all seem to have different definitions/ concepts: at least one of which you apparently deny.


Which is exactly the point I made and that you contested.


I asserted nothing.
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A different conception means a different idea of God.
A different definition changes what God is.

So what different definition of God, do theists espouse?

jan.
 
Jan Ardena said:
A different conception means a different idea of God.
A different definition changes what God is.
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And once again you display your lack of comprehension of English.
Surely the definition will vary with the idea?
Or are somehow contending that an idea, regardless of how different it is from any other will have exactly the same definition as any other? :rolleyes:

So what different definition of God, do theists espouse?
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I gave a series of links. If you can't be bothered to read them (after asking) then that's not my fault.

Let me ask you this, since you consider that the "definition" does not particularly vary:
Do you subscribe to the Muslim god?
The Catholic god?
The Protestant god?
If so, then either:
A) how do you manage to find time in the day to perform all of the rituals required by each of these beliefs or
B) why do you NOT follow all of these and why not?

Do you subscribe to Bible as truth, the Quran as truth and Smith's "Pearl of Great Wisdom" as truth all at the same time? Etc etc.
How difficult does that make your life following the requirements of each of these simultaneously?
If you don't follow all of these why not? I sit because you have decide that one (or more) particular versions (definitions) are not correct?
 
Dywyddyr,

And once again you display your lack of comprehension of English.
Surely the definition will vary with the idea?
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You have been requested to demo this.
That way you can clear this up.

I gave a series of links. If you can't be bothered to read them (after asking) then that's not my fault.
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I looked at them, but they didn't answer the question.
You could have cleared this up right at the begining if you had an answer.
But you don't.

Let me ask you this, since you consider that the "definition" does not particularly vary:
Do you subscribe to the Muslim god?
The Catholic god?
The Protestant god?
If so, then either:
A) how do you manage to find time in the day to perform all of the rituals required by each of these beliefs or
B) why do you NOT follow all of these and why not?
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And it is said that atheists are knowledgeable of scriptures and religion.

These concepts are all the same Personality, God.
Different religions does not mean different definitions of God.

No wonder you were reluctant to answer my question.


Do you subscribe to Bible as truth, the Quran as truth and Smith's "Pearl of Great Wisdom" as truth all at the same time? Etc etc.
How difficult does that make your life following the requirements of each of these simultaneously?
If you don't follow all of these why not? I sit because you have decide that one (or more) particular versions (definitions) are not correct?
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Within these books, how does the definition of God change?

jan.
 
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