Westboro Church loses Lawsuit in Funeral Protest

madanthonywayne

madanthonywayne

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Some good news. Those scumbags from theWestboro Church who go around protesting a soldiers funerals:
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These people are despicable. Really despicable.

Anyway, they lost a lawsuit filed by the family of one of the soldiers whose funeral they protested. The court awarded $11 million in compensatory and punitive damages.

Normally, I hate punitive damages. But these sickos deserve it. Of all places to protest, the funeral of a fallen soldier.

Protest in Washington. Protest downtown. Protest at the park. DO NOT PROTEST AT THE FUNERAL OF A SOLDIER WHO DIED DEFENDING HIS COUNTRY! His family deserves respect and time to mourn the loss of their loved one, not a mob of jackasses waving signs proclaiming that death to be a good thing.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/bal-westboro1031,0,7191706.story
 
...sinless or sinners...all shall receive the judgment of their own subconsciousness mind. The court might have taken away the life they had, but they have taken away far more from themselves than that...than have taken away their belief.
 
I sure hope they received jail time to reflect on their views of society morals...which they perceive wrong.
 
madanthonywayne said:
Some good news. Those scumbags from theWestboro Church who go around protesting a soldiers funerals:
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in-funeral.jpg

These people are despicable. Really despicable.

Anyway, they lost a lawsuit filed by the family of one of the soldiers whose funeral they protested. The court awarded $11 million in compensatory and punitive damages.

Normally, I hate punitive damages. But these sickos deserve it. Of all places to protest, the funeral of a fallen soldier.

Protest in Washington. Protest downtown. Protest at the park. DO NOT PROTEST AT THE FUNERAL OF A SOLDIER WHO DIED DEFENDING HIS COUNTRY! His family deserves respect and time to mourn the loss of their loved one, not a mob of jackasses waving signs proclaiming that death to be a good thing.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/bal-westboro1031,0,7191706.story
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one of their main points was bs that funerals are public events how do you come to that conclusion
 
about Fred Phelps

I agree that Phelps is despicable.

I had a little backgound information on Fred Phelps that apparantly "just disappeared" from our open-minded fact-loving tolerant sciforums community. Imagine that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_phelps#Democratic_Party


First of all, he's a democrat:


Democratic Party
Phelps has run in various Kansas Democratic Party primaries five times, but has never won. These included races for governor in 1990, 1994, and 1998, receiving about 15% of the vote in 1998.[35] In the 1992 Democratic Party primary for U.S. Senate, Phelps received 31% of the vote [36] Phelps ran for mayor of Topeka in 1993 [37] and 1997. [38]
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Secondly he was a civil rights lawyer for african americans. The NAACP even awaded him with honors:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_phelps#Civil_Rights_Attorney

Civil Rights Attorney

Phelps earned a law degree from Washburn University in 1962, and founded the Phelps Chartered law firm in 1964. The first notable cases were of a civil rights nature. "I systematically brought down the Jim Crow laws of this town," he says.[10] Phelps' daughter was quoted as saying, "We took on the Jim Crow establishment, and Kansas did not take that sitting down. They used to shoot our car windows out, screaming we were ni**er lovers," and that the Phelps law firm made up one-third of the state’s federal docket of civil-rights cases.[13]

Phelps took cases on behalf of African American clients alleging discrimination by school systems, and a predominately black American Legion post which had been raided by police, alleging racially-based police abuse. Phelps' law firm obtained settlements for some clients.[14] Phelps also sued then-President Ronald Reagan over Reagan's appointment of a U.S. ambassador to the Vatican, alleging this violated separation of church and state. The case was dismissed by the U.S. district court.[15] [14] Phelps' law firm, staffed by himself and family members also represented non-white Kansans in discrimination actions against Kansas Power and Light, Southwestern Bell, and the Topeka City Attorney, and represented two female professors alleging discrimination in Kansas universities.[13]

In the 1980s Fred Phelps received awards from the Greater Kansas City Chapter of Blacks in Government and the Bonner Springs branch of the NAACP for his work on behalf of black clients.[16]

Phelps Chartered also won one of the first reverse discrimination cases.[17]
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He really doesn't fit anyone's mold. Some people want to link fundamentalists with slave-owners, but obviously the stereotype doesn't fly when you consider Fred Phelps. Fundamentalists do not consider Phelps a fundamentalist -- they consider his group a hate-cult. Baptists do not accept any relationship or affiliation with Westboro Independent Baptist. Neither has Phelps been educated in seminary, and he has not been ordinated to preach.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_Baptist_Church#Opposition_to_Westboro.27s_theology

Our community had a military funeral that his group planned to protest. We barred the cemetary with a human shield of community volunteers and church members joined hand-in-hand.

Will I be reprimanded for saying this? :shrug:
 
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It looks like Phred lost it some time between the 1960s and now. Some kinds of mental illness do develop later in life.
 
Yeah, I agree. He was disbarred to practice law, and he needs help. But it's getting pretty late because he is 77 years old.
 
How was he able to sue? The ACLU has come to the aid of other hate groups, I wonder why they aren't hlping this so called church. That little boy holding a sign in front of his parent...reminds me of this
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Woody said:
Will I be reprimanded for saying this? :shrug:
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Probably not but I'm certainly tired of seeing the same post (I believe this is the 3rd time you've posted it). The guy's a nut job--I think that's pretty well established.
 
maxg said:
Probably not but I'm certainly tired of seeing the same post (I believe this is the 3rd time you've posted it).
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I'm kind of tired of seeing somebody delete it/move it/whatever. Can you link me to the other two posts?

thanks much :)
 
Orleander said:
How was he able to sue? The ACLU has come to the aid of other hate groups, I wonder why they aren't hlping this so called church. That little boy holding a sign in front of his parent...reminds me of this
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The NAACP commended Fred Phelps for helping them repeal the Jim Crowe laws, back when he was a civil rights attorney. Your post is kind of a contradiction wouldn't you say?
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Haw! Phelps loses. Sort of figured he would. Now if they can just split his cult up and scatter them around the country.
 
Woody said:
The NAACP commended Fred Phelps for helping them repeal the Jim Crowe laws, back when he was a civil rights attorney. Your post is kind of a contradiction wouldn't you say?
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I just wanna know why they aren't helping him. They helped the KKK when they wanted to have ralleys.
 
maxg said:
Probably not but I'm certainly tired of seeing the same post (I believe this is the 3rd time you've posted it). The guy's a nut job--I think that's pretty well established.
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I started this thread, and had never seen that post before. It certainly has a direct bearing on the thread topic.
 
madanthonywayne said:
Some good news. Those scumbags from theWestboro Church who go around protesting a soldiers funerals:
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5_61_westboro_protester.jpg

in-funeral.jpg

These people are despicable. Really despicable.
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Indeed.

Hate to think of the kind of indoctrination the child holding the sign is subject to.

GeoffP said:
Now if they can just split his cult up and scatter them around the country.
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Yes, good idea. Spread them around the country so they can appeal to more whacko's around the country, allowing their belief to also spread.

Two of his sons, Mark and Nate, insist that the church is actually a carefully planned cult that allows Phelps to see himself as a demigod, wielding absolute control over the lives of his family and congregants, essentially turning them into slaves that he can use for the sole purpose of gratifying his every whim and acting as the structure for his delusion that he is the only righteous man on Earth.[20] In 1995, Mark Phelps wrote a letter to the people of Topeka to this effect; it was run in the Topeka Capital-Journal.[21] The children's claim is partially backed up by B.H. McAllister, the Baptist minister who ordained Phelps. McAllister said in a 1993 interview that Phelps developed a delusion wherein he was one of the few people on Earth worthy of God's grace and that everyone else in the world was going to Hell, and that salvation or damnation could be directly obtained by either aligning with or opposing Phelps. As of 2006, Phelps maintains this belief.[20] Phelps and his family picket up to approximately six locations every day, including many in Topeka and some events farther afield. On Sundays, up to 15 churches may receive pickets.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_phelps#Civil_Rights_Attorney
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Woody said:
Secondly he was a civil rights lawyer for african americans. The NAACP even awaded him with honors:
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Yes he was. However it appeared as though he had a brain fart.

A formal complaint was filed against Fred W. Phelps, Sr. on November 8, 1977 by the Kansas State Board of Law Examiners for his conduct during a lawsuit against a court reporter named Carolene Brady. Brady had failed to have a court transcript ready for Phelps on the day he asked for it; though it did not affect the outcome of the case for which Phelps had requested the transcript, Phelps still requested $22,000 in damages from her. In the ensuing trial, Phelps called Brady to the stand, declared her a hostile witness, and then cross-examined her for nearly a week, during which he accused her of being a "slut," tried to introduce testimony from former boyfriends whom Phelps wanted to subpoena, and accused her of a variety of perverse sexual acts, ultimately reducing her to tears on the stand.[18] Phelps lost the case; according to the Kansas Supreme Court:

The trial became an exhibition of a personal vendetta by Phelps against Carolene Brady. His examination was replete with repetition, badgering, innuendo, belligerence, irrelevant and immaterial matter, evidencing only a desire to hurt and destroy the defendant. The jury verdict didn't stop the onslaught of Phelps. He was not satisfied with the hurt, pain, and damage he had visited on Carolene Brady.[18]​

In an appeal, Phelps prepared affidavits swearing to the court that he had eight witnesses whose testimony would convince the court to rule in his favor. Brady, in turn, obtained sworn, signed affidavits from the eight people in question, all of whom said that Phelps had never contacted them and that they had no reason to testify against Brady; Phelps had committed perjury.[18]

On July 20, 1979, Fred Phelps was permanently disbarred from practicing law in the state of Kansas,[18] but continued to practice in the Federal courts.

In 1985, nine Federal judges filed a disciplinary complaint against Phelps and five of his children, alleging false accusations against the judges. In 1989, the complaint was settled, with Phelps agreeing to permanently stop practicing in Federal court, and two of his children suspended for periods of six months and one year.[19]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_phelps#Civil_Rights_Attorney
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The man gives lawyers a bad name.

Reading about this guy makes my skin crawl. If ever there was a definition of a slug, Phelps would be right up there. He should not be allowed to roam free. He is a blight on humanity in general.
 
Orleander said:
How was he able to sue? The ACLU has come to the aid of other hate groups, I wonder why they aren't hlping this so called church.
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Maybe they came to the aid of other hate groups when said hate groups were using more appropriate venues. Phred's church members can and do haunt street corners in public places that are public, harassing no one in particular, and they used to pick the corner of 10th and Gage, next to the zoo, IIRC. If they were driven away from that, the ACLU would probably help them.
 
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:m: I just wanna know why they aren't helping him. They helped the KKK when they wanted to have ralleys.........:shrug:


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