Correct. And hundreds of thousands of people are alive as a result. That is a good thing, no matter how much the ignorant power-hungry anti-vaxxers want to put a stop to it.
Vaccine related autism study?
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Magical Realist
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I expect other countries to ban Thimerasol vaccines like we did. Ofcourse that's never gonna happen as long as the information about it is suppressed and censored. Hence this post...
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Magical Realist
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"It is unlikely that one serving of such fish would pose a risk. However, it is best to avoid these while pregnant or breastfeeding."===http://americanpregnancy.org/pregnancy-health/mercury-levels-in-fish/
Exactly. And yet you think even less than that will cause all sorts of horrible diseases.
If you really believe what you are spouting, why aren't you trying to ban fish?
Magical Realist
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For a fetus in the womb or an infant, absolutely.
So again: now you agree that none of the risks you still believe in apply to childhood vaccinations, so you fully support childhood vaccination again, right?
OK! I will agree that a fetus in the womb or an infant under 12 months old should not eat high mercury fish regularly. See, we agree on something, at least.
I regret using the 'vax on, vax off' joke in the mod abuse thread so much right now. It shoulda been here.
Aluminum absorbed during the first six months of life:
Via vaccines: 4 milligrams (standard US vaccine schedule)
Breast milk: 7 milligrams
Formula: 38 milligrams
Soy formula: 117 milligrams
Ban breast milk! Think of the children!
Magical Realist
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"Using the 5 mcg/kg/day criterion from the first document as a minimum amount we know a healthy baby could handle, a 12-pound 2-month-old baby could safely get at least 30 micrograms of aluminum in one day. A 22 pound one-year-old could get at least 50 micrograms safely. Babies with healthy kidneys could probably handle a lot more than this, but we at least know they could handle this amount. However, these documents don’t tell us what the maximum safe dose would be for a health baby or child. And I can’t find such information anywhere. This is probably why the A.S.P.E.N. group suggests, and the FDA requires, that all injectable solutions have the 25 mcg limit, since we at least know that is safe.
But wait. You are probably thumbing back through the book right now to see exactly how much aluminum was in each vaccine. Put your thumb away. At the risk of being repetitive I’ll just list it right here again:
- Hib (PedVaxHib brand only) – 225 micrograms per shot.
- Hepatitis B – 250 micrograms.
- DTaP – depending on the manufacturer, ranges from 170 to 625 micrograms.
- Pneumococcus – 125 micrograms.
- Hepatitis A – 250 micrograms.
- HPV – 225 micrograms.
- Pentacel (DTaP, HIB and Polio combo vaccine) – 330 micrograms.
- Pediarix (DTaP, Hep B and Polio combo vaccine) – 850 micrograms.
Just to remind you, the FDA feels that premature babies and any patient with impaired kidney function shouldn’t get more than 10 to 25 micrograms of injected aluminum at any one time."===http://www.askdrsears.com/topics/health-concerns/vaccines/vaccine-faqs
Abstract
"Immune challenges during early development, including those vaccine-induced, can lead to permanent detrimental alterations of the brain and immune function. Experimental evidence also shows that simultaneous administration of as little as two to three immune adjuvants can overcome genetic resistance to autoimmunity. In some developed countries, by the time children are 4 to 6 years old, they will have received a total of 126 antigenic compounds along with high amounts of aluminum (Al) adjuvants through routine vaccinations. According to the US Food and Drug Administration, safety assessments for vaccines have often not included appropriate toxicity studies because vaccines have not been viewed as inherently toxic. Taken together, these observations raise plausible concerns about the overall safety of current childhood vaccination programs. When assessing adjuvant toxicity in children, several key points ought to be considered: (i) infants and children should not be viewed as "small adults" with regard to toxicological risk as their unique physiology makes them much more vulnerable to toxic insults; (ii) in adult humans Al vaccine adjuvants have been linked to a variety of serious autoimmune and inflammatory conditions (i.e., "ASIA"), yet children are regularly exposed to much higher amounts of Al from vaccines than adults; (iii) it is often assumed that peripheral immune responses do not affect brain function. However, it is now clearly established that there is a bidirectional neuro-immune cross-talk that plays crucial roles in immunoregulation as well as brain function. In turn, perturbations of the neuro-immune axis have been demonstrated in many autoimmune diseases encompassed in "ASIA" and are thought to be driven by a hyperactive immune response; and (iv) the same components of the neuro-immune axis that play key roles in brain development and immune function are heavily targeted by Al adjuvants. In summary, research evidence shows that increasing concerns about current vaccination practices may indeed be warranted. Because children may be most at risk of vaccine-induced complications, a rigorous evaluation of the vaccine-related adverse health impacts in the pediatric population is urgently needed."====http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22235057
Abstract
"We have examined the neurotoxicity of aluminum in humans and animals under various conditions, following different routes of administration, and provide an overview of the various associated disease states. The literature demonstrates clearly negative impacts of aluminum on the nervous system across the age span. In adults, aluminum exposure can lead to apparently age-related neurological deficits resembling Alzheimer's and has been linked to this disease and to the Guamanian variant, ALS-PDC. Similar outcomes have been found in animal models. In addition, injection of aluminum adjuvants in an attempt to model Gulf War syndrome and associated neurological deficits leads to an ALS phenotype in young male mice. In young children, a highly significant correlation exists between the number of pediatric aluminum-adjuvanted vaccines administered and the rate of autism spectrum disorders. Many of the features of aluminum-induced neurotoxicity may arise, in part, from autoimmune reactions, as part of the ASIA syndrome."===http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23609067
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Your particular insult is everytime you say or imply that vaccines cause autism. That insults most peoples intelligence and is an insult to the children that will needlessly get ill because there goddamn idiot parents didn't vaccinate them, based on ignorant misinformation that you and your ilk disseminate.
Magical Realist
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Oh, so not a REAL insult. Some sort of metaphorical symbolic insult. LOL! Ooo.. I'm a bad boy!
Golly, you can't believe them, can you? Your the one that thinks there trying to poison us. This is a hideous joke...
When you post about your monsters, ghosts and UFOs it is kind of cute in a gullible sort of way. But this is just over the top, any little bit of respect I had for you is gone... So I am off, this thread makes me a little bit sick to my stomache.
Magical Realist
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The Doctors debate Vaccines. They end up agreeing that parents should have the right to choose not to vaccinate their babies. OMG! This was announced on national tv before millions of people!
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No, the FDA does not have a 25 mcg limit. Here are the real limits:
http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cdrh/cfdocs/cfcfr/CFRSearch.cfm?fr=610.15
(If you are now scrambling to click that don't bother; the actual regulation is between 850 and 1250 micrograms.)
You have once again quoted Dr. Sears, a man who habitually lies, and who is cashing in on the fear he generates in parents. The more fear, the more money he makes. Sounds like you are acting as an excellent stooge for him. It would be wise to not blindly believe everything you read.
Magical Realist
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So a baby can handle the same level of aluminum as an adult? That doesn't even make sense.
Bells
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It's one at birth, then 2, 4, 6 months.
Your figures are way waaaaayyy off. For example, one Hep B vaccine has .25mg.
Federal Regulations for biological products (including vaccines) limit the amount of aluminum in the recommended individual dose of biological products, including vaccines, to not more than 0.85-1.25 mg. For example, the amount of aluminum in the hepatitis B vaccine given at birth is 0.25 mg.
How you managed to get the figure you are saying is beyond me. Or you are still buying into the lies of anti-vaxxers and quoting them yet again..