USA in WWII

As Dr. Phil said, "the best predictor of future behavior is relevant past behavior." Hitler attacked Poland, killed its Jews (and a lot of Poles), and forced them to worship him, "Heil Hitler".
Hitler and Stalin.

Now, not to go out on a limb here, but I think Hitler would have done the same to Britain given the chance.
You think.
In how many years, if he'd gone East?

By the way, citing a book that is supposedly supported by documentary evidence isn't nearly as persausive as the documentary evidence itself.
It's the only one available since the documents have just been declassified.
I expect more people will write stuff about them.

You lead me to believe you knew what these documents
Then you didn't read correctly did you?
I stated that the book was documented.

were, which I asked you to describe - which you apparently can't or won't.
They were quoted in the book.
Buy it. Oh you won't, because you KNOW it's all wrong.
 
It is a very well known fact that France/Britain and Germany fought WWI. It is also well known that Hitler took advantage of the poor German economy after WWI to rise to power on a wave of German nationalism. It is also known that Hitler invaded other countries without cause, killed millions, and was generally a sick bastard. Now, how is the U.S. going to manipulate Hitler into starting a war, when Hitler so clearly wanted that war? This historical revisionist nonsense your spouting is insulting to all WWII vets.

Because something ceases to be true if it offends someone.

A Hitler decided to attack your country, kill your Jews, and force you to worship him.

Nevermind, you're not worth arguing rationally with.
 
Joseph Kennedy was USA Ambassador to Britain late 30's early 40's and he reported back to Congress that Britain had no chance to beat Germany. That's why the USA believed Germany would win.

I think that Churchill eventually got Kennedy kicked out due to his pessimism over UK chances to win WW2.

There's more scepticism around nowadays, hence various conspiratorial theories, some of which are correct and others that are simply to shift themselves off the shelves. The real questions about American intervention is on the basis of 'Altruism'.

Whatever War the US partake in, from the World Wars onwards...were they doing it purely out of ALTRUISM in trying to make the world a better place or were they doing it out of SELF-INTEREST/MONEY/ECONOMY. ie. was WWII a money making opportunity or an altruistic war against Evil?
 
Why did Japan think America wouldn't fight?

Why did America interfere in Iran, Vietnam, Cuba, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Grenada, Iraq, etc., etc., etc?

Why did Dubya invade Iraq?

Why did America elect Dubya?

Why does America even have the likes of Dubya on the ballot?

yamamoto thought it was a bad idea he knew we would fight
money,prestige,and power
money
we didn't
cause we are f'ing morons
any more questions?
 
http://threeworldwars.com/world-war-2/ww2-background.htm

About sums it all up. Its a 3 page read which is pretty comprehensive. Its all there folks!

A proposed military coup on America funded by shady bankers to be perpetrated by a decorated Marine Corps general...

Businesses working on both sides of the fence...

A two faced president secretly wanting war while piously lauding neutrality...

A German Dictator taking pains to avoid conflict with the United States while the President of the US pushes a German ally to the breaking point...

Tender portrayals abound in this timeless classic!
 
This is speculative. Moreover, it doesn't say a thing about FDR wanting a war with Germany, so that the U.S. economy would prosper by selling arms to Britain.
 
This is speculative. Moreover, it doesn't say a thing about FDR wanting a war with Germany, so that the U.S. economy would prosper by selling arms to Britain.

""Roosevelt was a creation of Wall Street [and] an integral part of the New York banking fraternity...."8

The 1932 presidential campaign strategy was very simple: "big business" wanted Roosevelt..."

Big business is like a squid with a tentacle in many pies.
 
""Roosevelt was a creation of Wall Street [and] an integral part of the New York banking fraternity...."8

The 1932 presidential campaign strategy was very simple: "big business" wanted Roosevelt..."

Big business is like a squid with a tentacle in many pies.

If this is supposed to make you sound more credible and objective, it's not working.
 
This is speculative. Moreover, it doesn't say a thing about FDR wanting a war with Germany, so that the U.S. economy would prosper by selling arms to Britain.

The US economy did prosper whilst the British economy failed badly but you are correct...the Americans gave us a very fair deal for any help and despite many naysayers it is much to FDR's credit that he stuck to the so-called 'special relationship' between the British and the USA.
 
The US economy did prosper whilst the British economy failed badly but you are correct...the Americans gave us a very fair deal for any help and despite many naysayers it is much to FDR's credit that he stuck to the so-called 'special relationship' between the British and the USA.

The US screwed us out of as much as they could: mainly due to the fact the we Brits had the world market sewn up prior to WWII.
FDR wanted access to those markets (most of which were exclusive agreements to the UK).
That all changed with the agreements between Churchill and FDR.
Fair deal for help?
We finished paying off the debt sometime last year, IIRC.
 
A President who doesn't have some association with big business isn't likely to become President. This association is quite normal, but certainly not proof that a President desired a war between Britain and Germany in order to fill U.S. coffers. Such a maniacal plan was never hatched by FDR. I have yet to see any documentary proof of this conspiracy nonsense in any case.
 
Such a maniacal plan was never hatched by FDR.
Your opinion.

I have yet to see any documentary proof of this conspiracy nonsense in any case.
And of course you won't, ever.
You know which book it's in (see link, previously given) and won't read it because you already know it's wrong.
 
I was hoping, of course, that you had read the book and could tell me what document(s) they are referring to. I am not going to spend money on a book and then spend an enormous amount of time reading that book just because it makes some crackpot claim which is highly unlikely.
 
I was hoping, of course, that you had read the book and could tell me what document(s) they are referring to. I am not going to spend money on a book and then spend an enormous amount of time reading that book just because it makes some crackpot claim which is highly unlikely.

So I should pay for the book, read it and then post it here for you?

You won't pay to find out for yourself, just because it's "unlikely"?
Cheap, very cheap.
You that is, not the book.
 
So I should pay for the book, read it and then post it here for you?

You say that as if that isn't exactly what you're doing. All we ask is that you post the references the book uses to back up its case, rather than simply reiterating the book's thesis and demanding we buy it.
 
O.K. Now I know you didn't read the book. Sorry for asking you for information you don't have. I don't blame you for not wanting to buy the book and read it, either. And yes, I am cheap. Notice my avatar is Budweiser - not Heniken.
 
You say that as if that isn't exactly what you're doing. All we ask is that you post the references the book uses to back up its case, rather than simply reiterating the book's thesis and demanding we buy it.

O.K. Now I know you didn't read the book. Sorry for asking you for information you don't have. I don't blame you for not wanting to buy the book and read it, either.

I'll post anything I think is relevant when I've finished it: considering I have anywhere up to 10 books on the go at a time you can wait.

And yes, I am cheap. Notice my avatar is Budweiser - not Heniken.
Wouldn't know the relative prices since I'm a Guinness drinker - quality doesn't come cheap.
And I haven't touched Heineken since I left my teens.
 
Guinness is a rich beer - difficult to drink more than two. Heineken is a fine lager which I can consume in greater quantity. Guinness in the U.S. tastes like crap in comparison to off the tap in Ireland. Unfortunately, I don't have access to quality Guinness, so I must chose lesser beers. I love a Corona with a slice of lime.
 
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