US warships frightened by Iranian boats; War of Terror; US foreign policy, etc...

Status
Not open for further replies.
SpAM, another appeal to emotion, yes, I am sorry for that girl, but the video from the drone doesn't support her version of story, the video doesn't lie, and I have questions about the video that was made with her?,

Ali Omar Abrahem al-Mashhadan, a Reuters News Service reporter had been previously identified as known insurgent propagandists

Thabet, who claimed to live around 100 yards away from the original IED blast in Haditha, videotaped the scene the day after the carnage.

Intelligence officers said frequent cellular telephone conversations between these Ali Omar Abrahem al-Mashhadan and Thaer Thabet al-Hadithi had been monitored.

Hadithi, who was one of the sources interviewed by Tim McGirk for the Time Magazine scoop which brought the incident to light, presented himself as a "journalism student" who was embarking on a midlife career following the American invasion. Hadithi also claimed his group, which runs 14 local offices in Iraq, was affiliated with Human Rights Watch. After Human Rights Watch denied having any official connection or ties with Hammurabi Human Rights Group, Time Magazine issued a retraction.
 
Capt. Jeffrey Dinsmore, the intelligence officer for the battalion, testified that “it's fairly well established through the (unmanned aerial vehicle) coverage that there were insurgents in those homes

Lt. Col. Paul Ware, the Inspecting Officer for several of the enlisted Marines, recommended on July 11, 2007 that LCpl. Justin Sharratt be cleared of these charges. Ware stated, "[t]he government version is unsupported by independent evidence... To believe the government version of facts is to disregard clear and convincing evidence to the contrary."[45] The charges against Sharratt were dropped on August 9th.[9]

Article 32 hearings for LCpl. Stephen Tatum began July 16, and for SSgt. Frank Wuterich begins in August.[46] The investigating officer recommended charges be dropped against Tatum.[10]
 
SAM you also need to tell the other side of the story. Americans are doing a lot of good too. See this case of a boy who was set afire by street thugs in Iraq. Average Americans donated hughe sums to pay for the medical treatment of this disfigured boy. And this is just one of many stories of American generousity. You seem to be focused just on the bad things that happen in war.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/09/12/youssif.arrives/index.html
 
SAM you also need to tell the other side of the story. Americans are doing a lot of good too. See this case of a boy who was set afire by street thugs in Iraq. Average Americans donated hughe sums to pay for the medical treatment of this disfigured boy. And this is just one of many stories of American generousity. You seem to be focused just on the bad things that happen in war.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/09/12/youssif.arrives/index.html

If I kill your whole family and say sorry to you, what is your response?

If they had not gone into Iraq on false pretences, he would not have been burned.
 
In that article, it was not the Americans who injured the boy. It was an Persian or Arab act of violence against a young child. They doused the child in gasoline and set him on fire. What kind of monster would do that.
The child was teased by his neighbors. His family went to the Americans. And it was thousands of Americans who donated money to bring he and his family to the United States so that we could help heal is physical and emotional wounds. And this is not a unique story. His injuries had nothing to do with the United States invasion or occupation of Iraq. But the healing of his wounds does.
 
Feds are calling this the most serious threat from Iran in years. The POS Iranians verbally threatened the USA ships with explosions! :mad:

And your Navy is sitting 12 miles off their coastline, armed to the teeth. Which do you view as being more threatening? A few little boats and taunts or 3 massive warships armed to the eyeballs which could destroy your coastline and cause a large amount of damage to your country and populace?

Iran is run by a little SOB bastard just beggin' for a beatin'. I say let's give the little jihadist what he wants.
You do know that is how many in the world feels about Bush, don't you?:spank:

-----------------------------------------------------------

Do I agree with this situation? To be honest, I am surprised the US did not open fire. Were they correct in their reaction to the boats? Yes. Small boats can cause a hell of a lot of damage if packed with explosives. Were the Iranians in the wrong? In part yes. The US ships were in what is deemed to be international waters. Do they (the Iranians) feel threatened? Yes. I would imagine most States would feel threatened by having a fleet of heavily armed ships sitting off their coastline while that fleets President slyly threatens you constantly in the media and by its actions. But at the end of the day, you will be deemed to be in the wrong if you take it upon yourself to threaten ships in international waters. Had the US ships strayed into Iranian waters, then this situation would be entirely different.

Had the US not been there for the reason they are there, for example, if the US out of the blue decided to park its warships off the coast of Iran, then they would be deemed to be the aggressors. In this instance, while their action can be deemed to be aggressive, I think the fact they did not open fire on those boats, would have to be admirable under the circumstances.
 
In that article, it was not the Americans who injured the boy. It was an Persian or Arab act of violence against a young child. They doused the child in gasoline and set him on fire. What kind of monster would do that.
The child was teased by his neighbors. His family went to the Americans. And it was thousands of Americans who donated money to bring he and his family to the United States so that we could help heal is physical and emotional wounds. And this is not a unique story.

I'm very glad they helped him. But does that make up for all the children they shot or orphaned?

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4408.htm

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/03/28/1080331001795.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,1735748,00.html

The US troops are engaged in an illegal war. Killing civilians. For shame.
 
Last edited:

How about the thousands of children shot, blown up, and orphaned by your POS Terrorist?, guess who is taking care of them, Americans, all of this free of charge, paid for by American generosity, you Bigot.


FOXNews.com - GI Saves Iraqi Boy in Long-Shot Adoption - Local ...
GI Saves Iraqi Boy in Long-Shot Adoption. Tuesday, December 25, 2007. E-Mail; Print; Digg This! del.icio.us. AP. Scott Southworth, right, with his adopted ...
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,318237,00.html


We speak with Ahmad Sharif and his father, Jabbar Sharif. Two and a half years ago Ahmad lost his eyesight and right arm after being caught in crossfire. He first came to the United States last year and received prosthetic eyes and an arm. He was brought to this country by Elissa Montanti, founder of the Global Medical Relief Fund. Ahmad and Jabbar They are translated by Hesham El-Meligy, an advisor to the Global Medical Relief Fund

We also speak with Khalid Hamdan Abd who brought his three-year-old daughter Alaa to the United States for medical treatment.
Thanks to the organization No More Victims, she recently had surgery in the United States to reconstruct her abdominal wall. She also underwent eye surgery to remove shrapnel and to reattach her retina. According to her surgeon she would have been blinded for life if she had not undergone the surgery. We also speak with Cole Miller a Hollywood screenwriter and founder of NoMoreVictims.org. They are also translated by Hesham El-Meligy, an advisor to the Global Medical Relief Fund.


Palestinian girl has Neurosurgery at Loma Linda
On December 7, 11-year-old Sera Ali-Nawaja, a Palestinian refugee in Jordan, had neurosurgery at the Loma Linda University Medical Center in California. Dr. Alexander Zorous treated her for a congenital malformation known as "tethered cord". She came with her mother Aida and was housed by local volunteers near the hospital. Dr. Zorous has done two missions to Palestine in 2007 with the PCRF, where several children with similar disorders had surgery in Ramallah and Makassed Hospitals.

Palestinian girl and mother arrive in Baltimore for surgery
On November 28, 8-year-old Aseel Abu Dayyah and her mother Fatheyya arrived in Baltimore, MD, where the girl will undergo orthopedic surgery at the Johns Hopkins University Medical Center by Dr. Michael Ain. The girl was born with scoliosis and could not be treated in Palestine due to the complexity of her problem. Aseel and her mother are from the West Bank town of Hebron and are staying with a local host family.

Injured Gaza boy in LA for surgery
On November 1, 10-year-old Mohanned Hammouda from Jebalya refugee camp in the Gaza Strip arrived in Orange Country California to begin a period of orthopedic surgery at the Shriners Hospital in Los Angeles. Mohanned was shot in the leg by Israeli soldiers last year during an incursion in his neighborhood. He was walking home from school when he was shot. He is staying with a local host family and being cared for by the PCRF LA chapter.

Iraqi child leaves Cincinnati after successful surgery
Hussein Keilani returned back to Iraq after undergoing cost-free surgical care at the Children's Hospital in Cincinnati. Hussein and his mother, Nawal, were brought from Baghdad to the US by the PCRF. Dr. Mark Levitt donated his services to treat Hussein and performed surgery to improve an imperforated anus. Hussein and his mother were in the US for over four months.

Iraqi boy and mother arrive in LA for orthopedic surgery
On September 9, Mohammed Sarteeb Hamed, 13, and his mother Sayran arrived in Los Angeles to begin treatment for the boy's hip disorder, a problem that could not be treated in their homeland of Iraqi Kurdistan. The PCRF is a non-political, non-sectarian organization dedicated to helping children in need from the Middle East, regardless of their nationality, religion, race or gender. Mohammed and his mother are being cared for by the local PCRF chapter of Southern California. Anyone interested in contacting this chapter to volunteer to help with this boy or his mother, please email: pcrfsc@pcrf.net

Iraqi girl Returns home after surgery
In the middle of August, Noor Sabah returned to Baghdad, Iraq after receiving maxillofacial surgery at Mt. Sinai Medical Center in New York. Noor was brought to NY in February by the PCRF in association with the Virtue Foundation. She was treated by Dr. Peter Taub, a plastic surgeon who agreed to treat her as a charity case. Before arriving in the US, Noor waited three months in Amman for a visa, but finally got out with her mother and stayed with a local host family during her treatment.

Boy returns to US for second treatment
At the end of July, The PCRF brought Omar Ghazal to the US for cost-free care at Providence Hospital in MI. Omar is a Palestinian living in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia who is being treated for a craneofacial deformity by Dr. Ian Jackson of the Craneofacial Institute in Southfield, MI. The PCRF covered the ticket for Omar, who came with his father.

Injured Iraqi girl arrives in Cleveland for Surgery
On July 15, 5-year-old Teeba Farhat arrived with her grandmother from Baghdad, Iraq to Cleveland, Ohio to start treatment for burns she suffered in a car bombing, which killed her brother. She will be treated for free by Rainbow Babies and Children's Hospital of University Hospital in Cleveland, and by "Wigs for Kids". The PCRF was brought into this case by Cleveland resident Barbara Marlow, who read about her story in the local newspaper and decided to help her.


Injured Boy Arrives in DC for Treatment
On June 7, 13-year-old Mohammed Elathamna arrived from the northern Gaza town of Beit Hanoun to Washington, DC to begin treatment for injuries he sustained in an Israeli attack on his families home last November that left 18 relatives dead. Read story

Mohammed lost his arm and will be treated at the District Amputee Care Center. He is being cared for by the local PCRF chapter and host family in the DC area. His cousin Abdullah, 7, who lost his leg, was recently treated in Oakland, CA.

PCRF helps injured Iraqi boy travel to Philadelphia for Treatment
On April 25, 10-year-old Hisham A. Ibraheem from Anbar in Iraq traveled with his mother Anwaar and a medical escort, Dr. Hamed, from Jordan to Philadelphia for treatment for a spinal cord injury that he sustained in the war. He was paralyzed and could not move. The PCRF covered his plane ticket and worked with several other NGOs, most notably the International Organization on Migration (IOM), to get him to the USA.

Five Gaza Kids Arrive for treatment
At the end of March, the PCRF managed to get 5 injured children out of the besieged Gaza Strip and to the United States for free medical care that they could not get in their homeland. This took months of preparation after their surgery was arranged, as the border between Gaza and Egypt had been closed by the Israeli occupation authorities and only opened occasionally, and with very little advance notice. The children sent outside for free care were:

Abdullah Al Athmana. He is 7-years-old from the Gaza town of Beit Hanoun. On November 9, 2006 he was sleeping with his family in their home when an IDF tank shell hit their home. His mother and two sisters were killed, as were several other extended family members. Their home was destroyed. Abdullah lost his right leg below the knee and was accepted for free care at CIRS Prosthetics and Orthotics in Oakland, CA. He stayed with a local host family and was cared for by the local PCRF chapter. Watch news story |Read news article | See before & after photos

Thaer Al Jamal. He is 17-years-old from the Gaza refugee camp of Maghazi and lost both of his legs above the knees in July, 2006 by an Israeli helicopter rocket as he was walking down the street. He was sent with his mother to the Shriners Hospital in Greenville, SC.

Mayce Abu Rezeq. She is a 15-year-old girl from the Khan Younis refugee camp. In 2005, she was shot in the back by Israeli soldiers. The bullet hit her arm, where she suffered painful nerve damage. She was treated at the Shriners Hospital in Philadelphia and stayed with a local host family.

Oday El Jamal. He is 6-years-old from Jebalia Refugee camp. He suffered several shrapnel injuries to his legs and body from an IDF tank shell in 2005 and has been accepted for free prosthetics and orthopedic care by the University of California, San Francisco ( UCSF). The PCRF sent him with his mother and they are staying with local host familes during his treatment.

Ahlam Abu Ouda. She is 17-years-old and from the town of Beit Hanoun. She was in New Jersey for opthalmic surgery (corneal grafts) by Dr. Michael Wong. She was hosted by a local family and the New Jersey chapter took care of her daily needs during her treatment.


Iraqi Baby Has Life-saving Surgery in Columbus
On March 8, 18 month old Badr Taha underwent life-saving open-heart surgery at Children's Hospital in Columbus, OH. He was sent by the PCRF with his mother, Donya. The boy was born with a congenital heart defect known as "tetrology of fallot" and was referred to the PCRF by Washington-based Civic. This is the second case brought to the USA referred by CIVIC. Badr's father and uncle were killed in the war and during his treatment Badr was cared for by volunteers from the local Iraqi community in Columbus. The surgeon was Dr. Mark Galantowicz. Read news story

Iraqi Girl Travels to NY for Surgery
In late February, 3-year-old Noor Sabah from Baghdad in Iraq was brought to New York for maxillofacial surgery at Mt. Sinai Medical Center. She was treated by Dr. Peter Taub, a plastic surgeon who agreed to treat her as a charity case. Her care was also supported by the Virtue Foundation. Noor waited three months in Amman for a visa, but finally got out with her mother and stayed with a local host family.


Injured Boy Treated in Dallas
On December 9, 6-year-old Ameer Abu Hadad from the West Bank city of Hebron traveled to Dallas, Texas for a new artificial leg, which was built at the Scottish Rite Hospital. This was the second case treated at that hospital on a charitable level in 2006. Ameer lost his leg in an accident and could not be treated locally. He stayed with a local Palestinian family.

Amputee Returns to Chicago for Treatment
17-year-old Bara' Ghanem from a village outside of Ramallah returned to the Shriners Hospital in Chicago for artificial limbs after being accidentally electrocuted in his home. He lost both arms and legs and was first sent to the Shriners by the PCRF in 2001. As he has grown, the need to upgrade his prosthesis has increased. He stayed with relatives in the Chicago area.

Injured Girl Sent to Minneapolis for New Leg
On November 18, 2006 16-year-old Bara' Sofan from Nablus was sent to the Shriners Hospital in Minneapolis, MN for a new artificial leg. She lost her leg in an accident in 2004 and had a new one built by the Shriners.

Injured Boy Travels to USA from Gaza
On October 30, 9-year-old Adham Ghalia traveled to the USA for free neurosurgery and orthopedic surgery at Monmouth Hospital in New Jersey. Led by Dr. Andrew Elkwood, Adham had surgery after being injured last June 8, 2006 when Israeli artillery killed his family as they had a picnic on a Gaza Beach (see report).

Adham is one of the sole survivors of his family and was cared for by volunteers from the local PCRF chapter and community in the Princeton area.

Injured Gaza Boy returns home after treatment
Mutussam Abu Karsh from Jebalya RC in the Gaza Strip recently returned home after treatment for injuries he sustained in an Israeli artillery attack in Gaza in December 2005. He lost his leg and part of his right hand from the bomb and had orthopedic surgery, as well as a new limb made at the Shriners Hospital in LA. He was hosted by a local family and was in the Southern California area for several month. Watch news story

Palestinian girl comes from Nablus for new leg in Houston
In July, 2006, 10-year-old Yasmeen Najjar traveled from the West Bank town of Nablus to Houston for a new artificial leg at the Shriners Hospital in Houston, Texas. She lost her at the age of 6 after being hit by a car and was provided a new leg and physical therapy at the hospital.

Burned girl from Hebron travels to US for plastic surgery
In July, 2006 15-year-old Majd Hmouz from the West Bank town of Hebron went to Ohio for free plastic surgery after being burned in a home accident in her home in the Hebron area Fawar refugee camp at the age of three. She suffered extensive third-degree burns on her abdomen and chest and had donated plastic and reconstructive surgery by Dr. Zaheer Shah in Canton, Ohio, who has been on several missions to Palestine over the past few years. She was also treated at Mercy Hospital in Canton on a charitable level.

Injured Gaza girl gets new eye in San Jose
On June 13, 2006 3-year-old Isra'a El Batsh and her mother Dalal traveled from Palestine to San Francisco for treatment. Isra'a lost her eye from an Israeli air raid in Gaza on March 6, 2006 in which two of her small cousins were killed and her 10-year-old brother Mohammed was injured in the leg. Isra'a lost her eye and suffered other facial injuries and was treated by Raymond Rendon & Associates, Inc. in San Jose. Isra'a and her mother were cared for by local host families in the San Jose area and supported by the PCRF Bay Area Chapter. In addition to her physical injuries, Isra'a suffered from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD), due to her injuries and the constant IDF shelling near her home in the Shujaya quarter of Gaza City.

Injured Iraqi Boy Travels to USA for Surgery
On May 17, 3-year-old Mohammed Amir traveled with his grandmother to Spokane, WA for free surgery after the child was shot in the head by insurgents in Iraq. His treatment was arranged by the Northwest chapter of Healing the Children. The PCRF arranged for his housing and visa in Amman and assisted in their coordination out of the Middle East. Their plane tickets were donated by Northwest Airlines. The boy is blind in both eyes and was treated by a plastic surgeon, as well as an ophthalmic surgeon.

Iraqi Kids Get Treatment in Michigan
On April 25, two Iraqi children were brought to Ann Arbor for extensive medical care that was not available to them in their war-torn country. 10-year-old Majid Mousa lost his leg and eyesight from a bomb in his town of Najaf, while 14-month-old Amir Rheef was born with bladder extrophy. He is from Sadr City in Baghdad. Both children arrived with their mothers and were brought by the PCRF to Michigan. They were cared for by volunteers in the local community during the treatment. Majid was treated by Dr. James Leonard who fit him with a new leg, and Dr. Monte Del Monte who treated him for his eyesight. Dr. John Park treated Amir for his bladder extrophy. All of the doctors volunteered their services. Read news story

Palestinian Boy has Spine Surgery in Los Angeles
On April 25, 15-year-old Hani Hawari from the West Bank town of Nablus was brought to Los Angeles for spine surgery at the Shriners Hospital for Crippled Children. Hani was accompanied by his mother Itaf. The boy was born with severe scoliosis and was seen in Palestine by Prof. Hugh Watts last year, who helped to arrange his care locally in LA. He was taken care of by the local Palestinian community in LA, specifically the PCRF LA Chapter.


Iraqi Boy Has Treatment in Cincinnati
On February 25, 3-year-old Ali Kassim from Iraq traveled to Cincinnati with his father for pediatric surgery at Children's Hospital. This boy suffered from an imperforated anus and was treated by Dr. Marc Levitt as a charity case. The PCRF cooperated with another American charity, Shevet Achim, to provide his care.

Girl Has Heart Surgery
On February 3rd, three-year-old Tanseem Al Azza from the West Bank village of Yatta traveled to New Jersey for heart surgery. Her treatment was arranged in coordination with Rotary International "Gift of Life" program. She underwent invasive catheterization by Dr. Frank Gaffney at the Robert Wood Johnson University Hospital in New Brunswick, New Jersey. Tanseem was born with a hole in her heart.

Injured Iraqi Girl has Reconstructive Surgery
On February 2nd, 11-year-old Marwa Naim traveled to Los Angeles for free plastic and reconstructive surgery at UCLA Medical Center. This girl was injured by a Coalition bomb in March, 2003 during the invasion of Baghdad. She lost part of her nose and her thumb on her right hand. She was found by an American NGO called CIVIC and was housed in LA by a host family from Iraq.

Inju
red Gaza Boy Has Surgery in Philly
On February 6, 11-year-old Emad Abu Anza went to Philadelphia for orthopedic surgery at the Shriners Hospital for Crippled Children. Emad is from the Rafah Refugee Camp and was shot in the leg by Israeli soldiers. He had orthopedic surgery and stayed with a host family in Philadelphia.

Injured Boy Treated in Chicago
In early January, 2006, the PCRF sent 12-year-old Mo'ath Daoud (right) from a village near Ramallah, the West Bank to the Shriners Hospital for a free prosthetic. The Palestinian boy lost his arm from an Israeli bomb in 2003. He was treated for free and stayed with relatives during the duration of his treatment.
 
Are you comparing the United States Army to terrorists?

I had no idea that was the ideal you were living up to.

Makes sense now, though, especially the cluster bombs :scratchin:

[
khafaj.jpg


Razzaq Kazem al-Khafaj grieves over the bodies of his children in Hilla in the southern province of Babylon. Khafaj lost 15 members (including six children) of his family as his car was bombed by coalition helicopters while fleeing al-Haidariyeh towards Babylon.(AFP/Karim Sahib)

http://www.ccmep.org/2003_articles/Iraq/040203_children_killed_and_maimed_in_cl.htm
 
Are you comparing the United States Army to terrorists?

I had no idea that was the ideal you were living up to.

Makes sense now, though, especially the cluster bombs :scratchin:

[
khafaj.jpg


Razzaq Kazem al-Khafaj grieves over the bodies of his children in Hilla in the southern province of Babylon. Khafaj lost 15 members (including six children) of his family as his car was bombed by coalition helicopters while fleeing al-Haidariyeh towards Babylon.(AFP/Karim Sahib)

http://www.ccmep.org/2003_articles/Iraq/040203_children_killed_and_maimed_in_cl.htm


No I am calling your bastard brother of terror, terrorist, and you a Bigot and war is hell.


Mr. Moreno-Ocampo rejected complaints activists had filed with the ICC accusing the U.S. of atrocities in Iraq. "The death of civilians during an armed conflict, no matter how grave and regrettable, does not in itself constitute a war crime," Mr. Moreno-Ocampo wrote, absent such factors as the deliberate targeting of civilians.
 
And yet you think murder in the best intrst of your country is fine. Even when the murder involves three hundred thousand civilians in Japan or a million in Iraq or a 1000 in Lebanon or <we don't do body counts> Afghanistan or all the people you PERSONALLY shot in Vietnam

So. Who. Is. The. Terrorist?

You are, and a flaming Bigot, to boot.


War is hell.

Mr. Moreno-Ocampo rejected complaints activists had filed with the ICC accusing the U.S. of atrocities in Iraq. "The death of civilians during an armed conflict, no matter how grave and regrettable, does not in itself constitute a war crime," Mr. Moreno-Ocampo wrote, absent such factors as the deliberate targeting of civilians.
 
Imagine 3 Iranian naval warships in the Hudson Bay. Imagine the US accepting this. Imagine Iran complaining if the US sends out boats :crazy:[/QUOTE]

Hudson Bay isn't an international waterway. The Straights of Hormuz are. Furthermore, since the US is on solid terms with the UAE, Bahrain, Qatar, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia & Iran-- and Hormuz is really the only way to get the ships there, it really isn't all that odd that US ships would be there. Only in your insane mentality could you come up with such a ridiculous comparison.

~String
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top