Thomas Aquinas: Five Arguments for the Existence of God

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Summa Theologiae, Question 2, Article 3:

It seems that God does not exist, for if one of two contrary things were infinite, its opposite would be completely destroyed. By "God," however, we mean some infinite good. Therefore, if God existed evil would not. Evil does exist in the world, however. Therefore God does not exist.

Furthermore, one should not needlessly multiply elements in an explanation. It seems that we can account for everything we see in this world on the assumption that God does not exist. All natural effects can be traced to natural causes, and all contrived effects can be traced to human reason and will. Thus there is no need to suppose that God exists.
But on the contrary God says, "I am who I am" (Ex. 3:14).

Response: It must be said that God's existence can be proved in five ways.

The first and most obvious way is based on the existence of motion. It is certain and in fact evident to our senses that some things in the world are moved. Everything that is moved, however, is moved by something else, for a thing cannot be moved unless that movement is potentially within it. A thing moves something else insofar as it actually exists, for to move something is simply to actualize what is potentially within that thing. Something can be led thus from potentiality to actuality only by something else which is already actualized.

For example, a fire, which is actually hot, causes the change or motion whereby wood, which is potentially hot, becomes actually hot. Now it is impossible that something should be potentially and actually the same thing at the same time, although it could be potentially and actually different things. For example, what is actually hot cannot at the same moment be actually cold, although it can be actually hot and potentially cold.

Therefore it is impossible that a thing could move itself, for that would involve simultaneously moving and being moved in the same respect. Thus whatever is moved must be moved by something, else, etc. This cannot go on to infinity, however, for if it did there would be no first mover and consequently no other movers, because these other movers are such only insofar as they are moved by a first mover. For example, a stick moves only because it is moved by the hand. Thus it is necessary to proceed back to some prime mover which is moved by nothing else, and this is what everyone means by "God."

The second way is based on the existence of efficient causality. We see in the world around us that there is an order of efficient causes. Nor is it ever found (in fact it is impossible) that something is its own efficient cause. If it were, it would be prior to itself, which is impossible. Nevertheless, the order of efficient causes cannot proceed to infinity, for in any such order the first is cause of the middle (whether one or many) and the middle of the last. Without the cause, the effect does not follow.

Thus, if the first cause did not exist, neither would the middle and last causes in the sequence. If, however, there were an infinite regression of efficient causes, there would be no first efficient cause and therefore no middle causes or final effects, which is obviously not the case. Thus it is necessary to posit some first efficient cause, which everyone calls "God."

The third way is based on possibility and necessity. We find that some things can either exist or not exist, for we find them springing up and then disappearing, thus sometimes existing and sometimes not. It is impossible, however, that everything should be such, for what can possibly not exist does not do so at some time.

If it is possible for every particular thing not to exist, there must have been a time when nothing at all existed. If this were true, however, then nothing would exist now, for something that does not exist can begin to do so only through something that already exists. If, therefore, there had been a time when nothing existed, then nothing could ever have begun to exist, and thus there would be nothing now, which is clearly false.

Therefore all beings cannot be merely possible. There must be one being which is necessary. Any necessary being, however, either has or does not have something else as the cause of its necessity. If the former, then there cannot be an infinite series of such causes, any more than there can be an infinite series of efficient causes, as we have seen. Thus we must to posit the existence of something which is necessary and owes its necessity to no cause outside itself. That is what everyone calls "God."

The fourth way is based on the gradations found in things. We find that things are more or less good, true, noble, etc.; yet when we apply terms like "more" and "less" to things we imply that they are closer to or farther from some maximum.

For example, a thing is said to be hotter than something else because it comes closer to that which is hottest. Therefore something exists which is truest, greatest, noblest, and consequently most fully in being; for, as Aristotle says, the truest things are most fully in being. That which is considered greatest in any genus is the cause of everything is that genus, just as fire, the hottest thing, is the cause of all hot things, as Aristotle says. Thus there is something which is the cause of being, goodness, and every other perfection in all things, and we call that something "God."

The fifth way is based on the governance of things. We see that some things lacking cognition, such as natural bodies, work toward an end, as is seen from the fact hat they always (or at least usually) act the same way and not accidentally, but by design.

Things without knowledge tend toward a goal, however, only if they are guided in that direction by some knowing, understanding being, as is the case with an arrow and archer. Therefore, there is some intelligent being by whom all natural things are ordered to their end, and we call this being "God."

To the first argument, therefore, it must be said that, as Augustine remarks, "since God is the supreme good he would permit no evil in his works unless he were so omnipotent and good that he could produce good even out of evil."

To the second, it must be said that, since nature works according to a determined end through the direction of some superior agent, whatever is done by nature must be traced back to God as its first cause. in the same way, those things which are done intentionally must be traced back to a higher cause which is neither reason nor human will, for these can change and cease to exist and, as we have seen, all such things must be traced back to some first principle which is unchangeable and necessary, as has been shown.

Any wise comments dear Q??
 
I just have a question.

Let's accept these as proof just for a second. Why wouldn't they in turn prove the same as to the creation / beginning of "God", leading to the old infinite regression argument?
 
Your ability to copy/paste useless garbage is vastly improving.

I hope when you get back to your kennel your mother bites you!

Tell me dearest Q where did I state that I was the author of this thread!
 
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I just have a question.

Let's accept these as proof just for a second. Why wouldn't they in turn prove the same as to the creation / beginning of "God", leading to the old infinite regression argument?
That's easy.
Because at some point you simply stop... thinking.
 
That's easy.
Because at some point you simply stop... thinking.
For the second time in 48 hours...

Huh? :confused:

Note from doctor:R is currently involved in regression therapy, and should not be disturbed for... Infinity? wait... does infinity exist? Shit, I've got to stop listening...
 
It doesn't lead to infinite regression because the point of the argument was to "prove" god.
So once you you reach that point you stop thinking in case your own chain of "logic" goes on to not actually prove god at all. ;)
 
It doesn't lead to infinite regression because the point of the argument was to "prove" god.
So once you you reach that point you stop thinking in case your own chain of "logic" goes on to not actually prove god at all. ;)
Damn... It would suck if that happened. Whatever would we do?
 
I fell in to a burning ring of fire
I went down,down,down
and the flames went higher.
And it burns,burns,burns
the ring of fire
the ring of fire.​

:mufc:
 
Huh ? What?
It's quite simple:
You posted
Thus; Existence = God
Thus; God = Existence
In response to:
Damn... It would suck if that happened. Whatever would we do?
Which was in response to:
It doesn't lead to infinite regression because the point of the argument was to "prove" god.
So once you you reach that point you stop thinking in case your own chain of "logic" goes on to not actually prove god at all. ;)
I.e. the argument given shows that god doesn't actually exist UNLESS you stop thinking and curtail the chain of logic prematurely and artificially.
Since you claimed it did lead to god you must, therefore, have stopped when you reached the conclusion you wanted rather than the true consequence of the logic.
 
It's quite simple:
You posted

In response to:

Which was in response to:

I.e. the argument given shows that god doesn't actually exist UNLESS you stop thinking and curtail the chain of logic prematurely and artificially.
Since you claimed it did lead to god you must, therefore, have stopped when you reached the conclusion you wanted rather than the true consequence of the logic.

Yes we are so important to ourselves that if we were annihilated all of creation would vanish from our perspectives
 
Yes we are so important to ourselves that if we were annihilated all of creation would vanish from our perspectives
Oh well done. Another non sequitur. And a tautology.
Next time you post could you make it coherent AND relevant?
Thank you.
 
Cant you read epeciallyout of the box?
Presumably there was meant to be a comma between "read" and ""especially"*, but either way the answer is "yes".
The point would be more: Can you be pertinent and rational?
So far the answer would appear to be "no".

The discussion isn't about our "self importance", but rather the failure of certain people to ignore the consequence of their own arguments.
And your facile tautology is equally off-piste.

* Not forgetting, of course, the space that should have followed "especially".
 
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