expletives deleted said:
I DON"T WANT TO be involved in paddoboy's bickering instigations.
And yet you saw the need to come into this thread which I started, on some matter re wormholes that you have absolute no support for your stance and simply chose to again and again and again and again, to argue against reputable scientific articles and papers, and the known speculative nature of them.
Just one more comment before I butt out of your's and James " talk"
expletives deleted said:
I have always left to the discussion itself (which would be better and more clear if paddoboy's personal irrelevances and assertions and appeals to authority were kept out of it).
In my mind its obvious what you are trying to do.
I've been watching you with your fairy tale stories about what you believe I do and what I don't do.
At this time, its water off a duck's back, as any fairy tale should be.
Let me state it again in no uncertain terms:
This is simply the question of whether physicists believe categorically that wormholes do not exist: You are unable to show anything as yet to support that, and neither has dmoe.
Let's get it clear again, before you once again, run away with some wrong interpretation of what I am saying.
No physicists has categorically said that wormholes do not exist. Fact!
Other relevant facts as much as you prefer not to hear them, is that many of your "ideas""opinions"on 21st century cosmology are just plain wrong...DM, gravitational waves, cosmological redshift are three that come to mind. rpenner has issued you warnings and asked you to calm down and also pointed out errors in your assumptions, so to have schneibster, PhysBang and Dave, but none could sway you one iota.
yet strangely, like the current issue, you could support nothing of what you said, with any reputable links or citations.
Back on the current debate, and just as James has said: wormholes are a hypothetical, or as dmoe prefers, science fiction outcome and prediction of GR.
They have never been seen and we have absolutely no evidence for their existence.
But at one time we also had no evidence for BH,s spacetime curvature, DM, gravitational waves, and now all are accepted and/or confirmed within the defining aspect of what a scientific theory is.
So please, don't stand/sit there and say wormholes categorically do not exist.
Unless you can support such certainty with some reputable citation or link.
We just cannot at this time, be 100%sure...its as simple as that.