battig1370
Registered Senior Member
The Virgin Birth?
The following information is from: http://www.religioustolerance.org/virgin_b.htm
[ "The virgin birth may have been copied from a Roman fable: Livy, a famous Roman historian, had written a very popular book on the history of Rome that was widely circulated in the first decades of the 1st century CE. In it, he explained that Mars, the Roman God of war, fathered twins Romulus and Remus, the original founders of the city of Rome. Their mother was Silvia, a Vestal Virgin. Some Christian groups may have slightly modified this fable and adopted it as their own, in an attempt to show that Jesus was an person of very great importance.
The virgin birth may have been copied from another religion. History records that:
Buddha was born of the virgin Maya after the Holy Ghost descended upon her.
The Egyptian God Horus was born of the virgin Isis; as an infant, he was visited by three kings.
In Phrygia, Attis was born of the virgin Nama.
A Roman savior Quirrnus was born of a virgin.
In Tibet, Indra was born of a virgin. He ascended into heaven after death.
The Greek deity Adonis was born of the virgin Myrrha, many centuries before the birth of Jesus. He was born "at Bethlehem, in the same sacred cave that Christians later claimed as the birthplace of Jesus."
In Persia, the god Mithra was born of a virgin on DEC-25. Zoroaster was also born of a virgin. (Many common beliefs between what Zoroaster taught and Christian doctrines, Wayne)
In India, the god Krishna was born of the virgin Devaki. Virgin births were claimed for many Egyptian pharaohs, Greek emperors and for Alexander the Great of Greece.
One source is quoted as saying that there were many mythological figures: Hercules, Osiris, Bacchus, Mithra, Hermes, Prometheus, Perseus and Horus who share a number of factors. All were believed to have:
Been male.
Lived in pre-Christian times.
Had a god for a father.
Human virgin for a mother.
Had their birth announced by a heavenly display.
Had their birth announced by celestial music.
Been born about DEC-25.
Had an attempt on their life by a tyrant while they were still an infant
Met with a violent death.
Rose again from the dead.
Almost all were believed to have:
Been visited by "wise men" during infancy.
Fasted for 40 days as an adult." ]
I found the orgin of the virgin birth myth to quite interesting. Most people do not care to find the origin of their beliefs and traditions. Religious beliefs systems promotes religious ethnocentrism and religious pride, which causes blindness to those that say, 'I already see!' In John 9:39 + 41 it writes, "For Jugment I have come into this world, that those who do not see may see, and that those 'who see' may be made blind." --- "If you were blind, you would have no sin; but now you say, 'We see!' Therefore your sin remains." Religious ethnocentrism prevents individuals of a certain religious belief to love those of a different religious belief, for example the JWs, Mormons, Pentecostals, Catholics, and etc. Ethnocentrism is the same as group self-centeredness in which ethnocentric pride is manifested by believing that their group is the First. There are many such self-centered religious organizations within the Christian world that believe they are First over the others.
What does the testimony of Jesus say about those that say, "We are proud to be First"?
The following information is from: http://www.religioustolerance.org/virgin_b.htm
[ "The virgin birth may have been copied from a Roman fable: Livy, a famous Roman historian, had written a very popular book on the history of Rome that was widely circulated in the first decades of the 1st century CE. In it, he explained that Mars, the Roman God of war, fathered twins Romulus and Remus, the original founders of the city of Rome. Their mother was Silvia, a Vestal Virgin. Some Christian groups may have slightly modified this fable and adopted it as their own, in an attempt to show that Jesus was an person of very great importance.
The virgin birth may have been copied from another religion. History records that:
Buddha was born of the virgin Maya after the Holy Ghost descended upon her.
The Egyptian God Horus was born of the virgin Isis; as an infant, he was visited by three kings.
In Phrygia, Attis was born of the virgin Nama.
A Roman savior Quirrnus was born of a virgin.
In Tibet, Indra was born of a virgin. He ascended into heaven after death.
The Greek deity Adonis was born of the virgin Myrrha, many centuries before the birth of Jesus. He was born "at Bethlehem, in the same sacred cave that Christians later claimed as the birthplace of Jesus."
In Persia, the god Mithra was born of a virgin on DEC-25. Zoroaster was also born of a virgin. (Many common beliefs between what Zoroaster taught and Christian doctrines, Wayne)
In India, the god Krishna was born of the virgin Devaki. Virgin births were claimed for many Egyptian pharaohs, Greek emperors and for Alexander the Great of Greece.
One source is quoted as saying that there were many mythological figures: Hercules, Osiris, Bacchus, Mithra, Hermes, Prometheus, Perseus and Horus who share a number of factors. All were believed to have:
Been male.
Lived in pre-Christian times.
Had a god for a father.
Human virgin for a mother.
Had their birth announced by a heavenly display.
Had their birth announced by celestial music.
Been born about DEC-25.
Had an attempt on their life by a tyrant while they were still an infant
Met with a violent death.
Rose again from the dead.
Almost all were believed to have:
Been visited by "wise men" during infancy.
Fasted for 40 days as an adult." ]
I found the orgin of the virgin birth myth to quite interesting. Most people do not care to find the origin of their beliefs and traditions. Religious beliefs systems promotes religious ethnocentrism and religious pride, which causes blindness to those that say, 'I already see!' In John 9:39 + 41 it writes, "For Jugment I have come into this world, that those who do not see may see, and that those 'who see' may be made blind." --- "If you were blind, you would have no sin; but now you say, 'We see!' Therefore your sin remains." Religious ethnocentrism prevents individuals of a certain religious belief to love those of a different religious belief, for example the JWs, Mormons, Pentecostals, Catholics, and etc. Ethnocentrism is the same as group self-centeredness in which ethnocentric pride is manifested by believing that their group is the First. There are many such self-centered religious organizations within the Christian world that believe they are First over the others.
What does the testimony of Jesus say about those that say, "We are proud to be First"?