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superluminal said:
This right here is the entire basis for our dismissal of religion as childish, deluded, and irrational.

Superliminal, I'm not sure I understood your point. Just a few books in the bible, you say. There are 66 books in the bible. There is no book of santa claus, book of the easter bunny, or any other materialistic Gimmee God in there.

It sounds like you're spiritually challenged. Yes, that's it. :D
 
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Woody said:
Superliminal, I'm not sure I understood your point. Just a few books in the bible, you say. There are 66 books in the bible. There is no book of santa claus, book of the easter bunny, or any other materialistic Gimmee God in there.

It sounds like you're spiritually challenged. Yes, that's it. :D
but there is a reference to a ritual held at the end of the each year which involves something that resembles christmas trees!.
Jeremiah 10:3-5
 
superluminal said:
Yes. Just as you are reality challenged.

So tell us what reality is. A couple of trillion years from now, will it still be reality? Or was it reality a trillion years ago?

The nice thing about spirituality is that it never changes, and it transcends time, space, and matter. It connects me with all those that have been and will be forever -- long after your science machine collapses to its lowest possible state, having used up all available energy.

I have and always will believe in the supernatural. The question becomes, can we as humans connect to it? If so, how? When the connection is made, the experience is difficult to explain in earthly terms. This is why Jesus so often used parables to get the point across.
 
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The nice thing about spirituality is that it never changes

Tell that to the druids or the Maya.

Or the Sumerians.

Or the Egyptians.

Olnecs.

Hell. The original christians before the Pauline Heresy...

The aborigines of Australia and the Bushmen of the Kalahari seem to have a good long stretch of extended oral tradition. If you want the closest thing to extended spirituality that the human race has seen, you should probably check out the Dream Time.
 
invert_nexus said:
Tell that to the druids or the Maya.

Or the Sumerians.

Or the Egyptians.

Olnecs.

Hell. The original christians before the Pauline Heresy...

The aborigines of Australia and the Bushmen of the Kalahari seem to have a good long stretch of extended oral tradition. If you want the closest thing to extended spirituality that the human race has seen, you should probably check out the Dream Time.

I'm not sure what you are saying, but yes there are many forms of spirituality, many of them quite warped. There can be many lies but only one truth.

So you might ask, how I can chose christianity as the truth when there are so many other flavors to choose from. I conclude it because I seek God's will, not mine. If christianity is wrong then it's God's will for me to be wrong, and I will obey God's will. If it were His will for me to be in hell then I would not fight the will of a sovereign God. I'm not equipped for it anyway.
 
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What I'm trying to say is that spirituality is about as permanent as culture.

As to 'one truth'. Yeah. And, of course, you're 'one truth' is the right 'one truth', yes?

I think we need some dionysian orgies. What ever happened to that?
 
invert_nexus said:
What I'm trying to say is that spirituality is about as permanent as culture.

As to 'one truth'. Yeah. And, of course, you're 'one truth' is the right 'one truth', yes?

I think we need some dionysian orgies. What ever happened to that?

The one truth will prevail beyond all the others. What are the modern day players?
 
invert_nexus said:
What I'm trying to say is that spirituality is about as permanent as culture.

As to 'one truth'. Yeah. And, of course, you're 'one truth' is the right 'one truth', yes?

I think we need some dionysian orgies. What ever happened to that?


ekam sat viprā bahudhā vadanti
Truth is One, but sages call it by many names
Rig Veda 1:164:46.
 
The one truth will prevail beyond all the others. What are the modern day players?

Ahhh.
That's why you religious types are always so eager for the end of the world.

Just because the sun rose this morning, Woody, doesn't mean it'll rise tomorrow.

Anyway. Seems like it's Islam in the lead, at the moment.
 
invert_nexus said:
Ahhh.
That's why you religious types are always so eager for the end of the world.

Actually no. We religious types are ready to get on with the program of our faith. For christians it's the return of christ and the millennial reign, then the next phase is the destruction of the world and the removal of "all things that offend." Then a new heaven and earth will be created according to their original purpose, where christ will continue to reign. Unfortunately sinners have no place in the new creation because they have no purpose there according to the bible, which christians accept as true.

Just because the sun rose this morning, Woody, doesn't mean it'll rise tomorrow.

Meaning what -- supernatural intervention could wipe out the sun in the next 24 hours? So you're a closet theist after all -- good one, nexus.

Anyway. Seems like it's Islam in the lead, at the moment.

It's not who is in the lead, but rather, who finishes the race. Christianity has endured longer than Islam.

Speaking of the Sun, when Sun Myung Moon dies, we'll see how long his brand of religion lasts. He was born in 1920, so his time is coming up soon. Watch for it in the news.

Sun_Myung_Moon_2005.jpg


Being that he is the messiah, we should expect a a red carpet rolling down from heaven with cheering angellic escorts, no? Have your camera ready. Ahhhh the glory as he ascends to his heavenly throne. :rolleyes:

-- sorry for my ad hominem criticism, I couldn't help it. Give me three whacks.
 
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