The reason for the decline in forum membership - anyone?

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James R said:
Chipz:

You are off topic for this thread.

If you have a complaint about a moderator, please send them (or me) a PM.
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Still think I am off topic?

http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?115291-Neverfly-goes-ballistic

Game Junkie, I don't post on here any more because Bells is still a moderator. (and her lap dog, JDawg or Balerion or whatever he's calling himself these days... Oh, JDawg/Balerion/Artist formerly known as an internet symbol; You're still a hypocritical moron who is oblivious to how often you shove your own foot down your throat with your many posts. I'm surprised you don't shit out Nike's.) A Moderator- and a sociopath that deliberately trolls threads with gross distortions in order to manipulate thread outcomes
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Maybe something like this might help promote interest in becoming a sciforums member?
Offer exclusive to registered sciforums members!

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yeah.. I know ...I am a nut job!:D
see topic:

http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?115151-SRT-and-the-use-of-relative-zero&p=2972540&posted=1#post2972540
 
:D
Maybe the decline has something to do with one too many Nut Jobs.
Oh, An people not listening, or understanding...
<): )
 
Aethelwulf said:
My take:

I've been reading these forums much longer than I have been a member. I do see an increase in bullying. I see an increase in censorship and worst of all, moderators too quick on the mark to pass judgement without asking the right kind of questions.

For the latter, I can give an example. I set a challenge in the proposals that alphanumeric explain why the OP of one of my threads was unjustified. He later came to the proposal thread and said he was unaware of this thread and then got me banned for a day. It wasn't until later I provided evidence (after my ban) that I had in fact told him about the thread, unto which he admitted it and said perhaps he had been aware of it. I told all this to the same moderator who banned me in the first place, and he has pledged he is never getting involved again in these debates.

But where was my say in it, before the quick pass of judgement? I see another member, Tach, pretty much bullying anyone in his way, or anyone with a lesser understanding of a certain subject than he... sometimes he doesn't actually have a better understanding, he just likes to think he has. Alphanumeric is similar. I think the biggest reason why he spends so much time in alternative theories is because there is hardly any activity in his own sub-forum, and the reasons why are obvious.

There is a lot of superiority complexes going on here. AN and Tach are two victims of this complex; who knows why they are like this, only I can surmize that alphanumeric is as snooty as he comes across on the forums, and Tach is probably a college drop-out, maybe a undergrad drop-out --- who knows, this is just guessing now. I think the moderators here need to calm the fuck down and lay off slightly with the posters and maybe come down a bit harsher on bullying and maybe even posters who have nothing in their mind other than to be rude to the other poster, or write more about the other poster than actually writing about the work involved.

Just my two cents.
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Something about glass houses and stones goes here.
 
Aethelwulf said:
This is a public forum to be kept in mind, must attract all people from walks of life, not a narrow band of people. I dare say, people can learn from posts more when people honestly challenge a thread, rather than throwing it in the psuedoscience department.
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No it isn't.

It's a privately owned website, hosted on privately on media by a privately owned company, that requires registration, and imposes limitations which you agreed to when you signed on to the forum.
 
It's pretty damn simple, really. Most forums, including this one, are private. You are invited inside someone's home. Now, you might of asked to be invited but you are invited nonetheless. Given that, you play by their rules just like you would in anyone's home. If they don't like your behavior and ask you to leave -- you leave. You can argue if you like -- as you're leaving. If you don't like the rules, go somewhere else where you do like the rules.
 
Aethelwulf said:
It's a public forum - designed to attract people from the public domain, no matter what rules or regulations you decide to agree on. This is still a forum which is intended to attract people from public domain.
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Aethelwulf said:
I don't think you understand what I am saying. We don't let people into this site from a ''private'' collection of people. This forum is open to the public domain - the public pretty much provides this site with the content it has, now which content remains depends on the moderation team. When I say this is a public site, I mean the site is open to the public, hence my original point, it will attract people from all walks of life. We must expect the nutjobs and whatnot from time to time.
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No. It is a privately owned website, on a privately owned domain. The hardware that the forum software exists upon is owned by a private company, as is the software itself. The site generates revenue for its owners by adclicks - presumably enough to pay for itself and generate a profit, otherwise I imagine it would have been closed down. When you signed up, you agreed to abide by a set of rules, which are enforced by moderators and the site admin. The moderators and admin, ultimately, are in the position they are in at the discretion of site owners, and the posters are able to post at the discretion of the moderators and the site admin, as are the topics available for discussion.
 
When you signed up, you agreed to abide by a set of rules, which are enforced by moderators and the site admin.
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[chuckle] if that were the case then this thread would be unneccessary. There is nothing wrong with the rules, nor the enforcement of such... it is how they are being ignored and abused by mods [ our forum police department ] that is...
Rules offer members protection as well as regulation. But when the rules are abused by those supposedly supposed to uphold them than the membership has no protection and only has regulation with out rule.
The individual member investment is threatened accordingly and thererfore so to is the sites ownerships investment in those rules.
 
@ Aethelwulf

They think that you are former banned poster Reiku. Which is probably why you appear to be targeted... I know Reiku's writing style quite well and you certainly don't appear to be Reiku to me, unless you've had a labotomy or something...
 
The way I think about forums is derived from the famous philosopher Groucho Marx: "I wouldn't want to belong to a club that would have me as a member."

This seems like a nice place but for the above reason I will be moving on after a while . . . .
 
arauca said:
That have been here on this forum , perhaps it will change, Thanks to QUANTUM QUACK FOR POSTING this forum.
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[chuckle] Are you trying to get me banned? :)

I guess I have a differnt perspective in this issue as I know just how difficult it is to not only acquire a membership of large numbers but to maintian that membership. [ I am involved in IT www professionally]
On the net any forum with a membership beyond 1000 is considered as relatively high value and has relatively signifcant return potential for the owners. So I am wondering why the assets [ members ] of this forum are allowed sometimes, to be treated as they are in ways that do to promote forum use but actually seek to minimise forum useage.
Money [Mammon] talks normally and I fail to see how demotivating a forum membership can possibly help in the earning potentials. [ even if that earning is to simply pay for costs and future upgrades etc. ] Apart from that fairness and professional conduct befiting what ever position or title you may have is generally accepted as an aspiration by every one in management. [whether on a volunteer or professional basis]

so it is puzzling why the contary to mutual and individual benefit is occuring....
maybe it's just transitional teething problems...
and the fact that this thead hasn't been locked and shut down is a very good indication of something working correctly...
 
Aethelwulf said:
I've thought about leaving twice now, but then I keep telling myself not to let it get to me :)
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These are easy words to say and they have sort of a Buddhist flavor to them: You can't let what others say affect your mood. If you do then they have won their "war of words".

Tell yourself to "rise above" them.

(Now, if I could just live by these words myself . . . .)
 
Aethelwulf said:
I've thought about leaving twice now, but then I keep telling myself not to let it get to me :)
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I have done a lot of posting here and started a lot of threads that I feel attached to, lol. But I am a member of most science forums and find this one to have the most insulting and disparaging good old boys. That keeps me from posting in most sub forums to avoid constantly seeing others get insulted and not being able to say anything. I did just join a new forum where they have rules of conduct that are enforced, which is the main reason I joined. Not phasing out here completely because I have a handful of friends here, but maybe some will join me at the new place :shrug:.
 
Aethelwulf said:
Not to mention a few of the mods as well have attitude problems. Tiassa seems to be a big topic, but I haven't crossed her yet. Hercules and alphanumeric are certainly too of the most arrogant I have ever met.
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I am not trying to stir up mess so I will say I have noticed ... A few arrogant "people". An some that have been rude. And some "people" that have read a post, mine included. That have been taken wrong, or twisted.
But if you like somewhere you take the good with the bad. ;) it is life. Always good an bad. But you have to make the most of it.
 
The one thing I have learned from this thread is just how important a dispute resolution sub forum is needed. One where a moderator can transfer [ with out prejudice ] any thread he/ she feels is in contravention of those rules. That subforum could then be used to sift through all the issues and reach a mediated resolution to what happens to the thread in question. Restricted to Membership view only.

This treats all posters seriously and of value, no matter how "crazy" they may appear to be to the moderator. No self esteem attacks or ego BS, just a call for the posters justification of thread continuance and where that thread should be placed most appropriately.

Take the heat out of the issue and in a timely manner deal with it with out the flak that would otherwise be in normal public/guest/ view.

So what if a thread stays off the main board for a few days....

issue a statement that reads thread moved to and for mediation.

Not hard to set up and the time needed would actually be less for the moderator as it is up to the Poster to justify the thread according to the rules.

To me this means that the members are treated equally regardless of relative merit.. The rules can be enforced with out the need to denigrate. Blame the rules not the person....

set up something similar for individual posts as well....
Don't like the rules then use procedure to change them or leave... simple

any ways this thread has been a great learning experience for every one and I thank all participants on my own behalf, so far for contributing..
 
Balerion said:
Was this before or after your multiple bans Reiku and the various sock-puppets created to circumvent them?
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this post is a classic example of illegal post..... unsupported accusations, off topic as well. Designed to flame and hurt..and need s to be moved to a members only view sub forum for mediation to prevent misleading the pubic about the nature of sciforums.
 
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