I do not see this to be a problem, as in my own perception, evil simply does not exist. Why? God created nature, and God himself is good. As God is wholly good, nature, therefore, must also be good. Human actions are dependent on nature. As humans act dependently on nature, they are acting dependently on a good. Therefore, all must result in a good, even though we, as humans, perceive things as bad, such as earthquakes. All is manifested in nature, therefore all resulting in the goodness of nature.
The problem of evil
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DeSeRt RaT UK
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so explain hell and satan. If there was no bad , then how to does 'God' choose peoples afterlife at the doors of purgatory,
Desert Rat UK:
so explain hell and satan. If there was no bad , then how to does 'God' choose peoples afterlife at the doors of purgatory,
I do not believe in an evil for the reasons I mentioned above. Therefore, I do not believe in Hell or Satan either. Of course, the entire idea of 'God' is left open to the hands of sceptics; there is no empirical method of proof to determine the actual existence of God. At least, at this moment. That factor, though, does not disprove the existence of God. Therefore, the only way we are able to know is through death, which is, in itself, a paradox.
I am a Christian. I am also a philosopher. I do not let any specific dogma determine my reason. I guess you could say I am a very liberal Christian.
so explain hell and satan. If there was no bad , then how to does 'God' choose peoples afterlife at the doors of purgatory,
I do not believe in an evil for the reasons I mentioned above. Therefore, I do not believe in Hell or Satan either. Of course, the entire idea of 'God' is left open to the hands of sceptics; there is no empirical method of proof to determine the actual existence of God. At least, at this moment. That factor, though, does not disprove the existence of God. Therefore, the only way we are able to know is through death, which is, in itself, a paradox.
I am a Christian. I am also a philosopher. I do not let any specific dogma determine my reason. I guess you could say I am a very liberal Christian.
Originally posted by Avatar
Your god, Jahve, has said that he's the root and the begining of all good and evil that is.
it's in the bible
I think Xev might know the exact place (it was smwhere in the very beggining)
I'm an extremely reform Jew. Like, I don't believe any of that shit from start to finish. The best part about Jewish culture is challah and throwing gefilte fish at goyim
platipus, not to be a passive bastard, but i could agree more wholeheartedly.
and i'm not even christian.
and i'm not even christian.
people don't understand. the bible says god answers prayers. it never says you always get the answer you want. the answer to the jews in the holocaust was obviously a resounding "no". i don't mean to sound callous, but it can't always be roses.
CounslerCoffee
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so explain hell and satan. If there was no bad , then how to does 'God' choose peoples afterlife at the doors of purgatory
In my mind Satan is a good guy. He's the one taking all the evil people back to his house, and taking the time out of his busy schdeule to torture them all.
God to me is so impersonal. He's like that boss thats always out of the office and you have to leave a message with his secretary. Satan on the other hand is all up in your face like "What bitch?!".
In my mind Satan is a good guy. He's the one taking all the evil people back to his house, and taking the time out of his busy schdeule to torture them all.
God to me is so impersonal. He's like that boss thats always out of the office and you have to leave a message with his secretary. Satan on the other hand is all up in your face like "What bitch?!".
Head in the sand? Pull it out!
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Platipus wrote:
I do not see this to be a problem, as in my own perception, evil simply does not exist.
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Tell me if you would still feel this way if it was your son/little brother/other loved one who was shot through the chest by a psycho gunman.
Evil exists alright... right now it's in Maryland.
-Mike
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Platipus wrote:
I do not see this to be a problem, as in my own perception, evil simply does not exist.
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Tell me if you would still feel this way if it was your son/little brother/other loved one who was shot through the chest by a psycho gunman.
Evil exists alright... right now it's in Maryland.
-Mike
The food chain is surely not a conception of evil! It is, by nature, a condition for survival. There is nothing evil about the process, yet it is a process in which natural life is sustained and extended. The loss of the life of the zebra is used for a good in the maintenance and prolonging of the life of the lion.
Re: Re: Head in the sand? Pull it out!
Calling something "evil" just obscures the reasons behind it.
People called September 11, 2001 "evil" but really it was an act of war on a nation that has been terrorizing civilian Arabs since 1948.
"Good" and "evil" are psychological training wheels. Are all of you toilet trained? Then I'm sorry to see you using good and evil as "real" terms... unless you're stupid, in which case I say, "predictable."
Calling something "evil" just obscures the reasons behind it.
People called September 11, 2001 "evil" but really it was an act of war on a nation that has been terrorizing civilian Arabs since 1948.
"Good" and "evil" are psychological training wheels. Are all of you toilet trained? Then I'm sorry to see you using good and evil as "real" terms... unless you're stupid, in which case I say, "predictable."
CounslerCoffee
Registered Senior Member
So this post is suppose to be about evil... okay I get that.
People called September 11, 2001 "evil" but really it was an act of war on a nation that has been terrorizing civilian Arabs since 1948.
I am sick and tired of 9/11 being use as an example. That day is not an example. I have more respect for them then that.
People called September 11, 2001 "evil" but really it was an act of war on a nation that has been terrorizing civilian Arabs since 1948.
I am sick and tired of 9/11 being use as an example. That day is not an example. I have more respect for them then that.