Nope. Never did that. You haven't addressed the issue I raised in this post, let alone the other posts you have ignored.
Deduce, by the way.
The Most Destructive Attitude in Romance
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Deduce, by the way.
Everybody knows how much I hate irrelevance. It's offensive. Especially the most common which is ad hom. If a date dares bring up irrationality like that: "Look you stupid bitch. Irrelevant. I'm putting the rest of my food in my pockets and leaving. Waiter! This poor excuse for a date over here will be responsible for the bill. And furthermore, you dumb ho, lemme borrow your car keys so I can take myself home."
Address what? You explicitly claimed that discussing women is irrelevant to the subject of women. WTF could you possibly have to say for yourself?
Excellent argument, that one.
Your lack of getting laid has made you irrational.
You won't have any friends with an attitude that you and you alone know all.
On a date, you need to keep it light, have fun. There is plenty of time to discuss more serious topics after you have been together for some time.
It would be like the girl asking you if you want to get married and have kids on the first date. Most guys would be out the door.
That's what your doing to them.
Yes fun. Until she shows her true colors of idioticy. Who would want to have sex with that?
OK so this is what seems to be coming out of many of the post here. It appears you can take 2 guys that are exact dupliates. Except one treats a girl like crap, and the other one cares about her lots. Most girls will claim that the one who treats her like crap is exciting and sexually attractive. While very few and rare girls would consider the one who treats her like crap to be repuslive crap and consider the one who cares to be exciting and sexually attractive.
And furthermore, the one who cares could even be way more fun, interesting, good looking, the whole package of everything any girl could ever want while the other guy is boring and ugly. But because the better guy is sensitive and caring, most girls would be repulsed by him, and more interested in the boring ugly guy who treats her like crap. Yes?
the fatal flaw being that you label yourself as "the one who cares", when it's apparent from what you've posted in this thread, you just want some pussy.
And which poster said all this?
The scary part is... i ant sure that gettin som "puzzy" is what hes truly after... i mean... he coud pay a "ho" for that... hmmm... but mayb he did try to buy a ho an was turned down
You, obviously. I highly doubt you have the innate interest to care for the well being of others. So, why bother with a thread like this unless it's all about you.
Yes, they play to win. However, what they are actually doing is losing 99.999999999 cents for every 100 cents they put into the lottery. "Ohhh.. the lottery is the quick and easy way to retire with a load of dough." The people that play it has no direction when it comes to making money. They think getting rich is so easy. It's like saying that I fly my plane to get from Los Angeles, CA to Hawaii just by picking a random vector to fly and use no compass. Sure, it's possible I may one day make it to Hawaii, but I'm more likely to not ever see it. I end up just wasting time, money, and fuel. And if I do ever make it to Hawaii, all the time, money, and effect I expended to get there just makes the overall trip a real drag. Any positive experience I gain while on the island is greatly outweighed by all the negative it took to get there.
Look at this to help demonstrate why the lottery is such a waste.
Say there is a raffle going on... for $1 you can buy a ticket. You buy 1 tickets. Everyone else, combined, buy $99 worth of tickets, which is 99 tickets. The raffle pool is $100.
Now, every raffle happens for a reason... to raise money for a cause, for example. So, from this pool of $100, they may take out $20 to support the little league baseball team. Now, the pool = $80.
The odds of you winning $80 is 1/100.
The odds of you losing money are 1 - 1/100 = 99/100.
Therefore, the expected gain per ticket is (or value, for us statisticians) is $80*1/100 + (-$1)*99/100 = -$0.19.
You lose 19 cents for every dollar you spend. That doesn't sound like much, put if you keep playing the raffle games, any win you make will be wiped out in the long run.
The lottery works the same. But the variables are slightly different. Like, your theoretical expected win could be nonnegative given that the value of the jackpot is big enough... but, you have have these factors working against you: taxes, splitting the pot with other winners, cash option vs. payout option, etc. Taxes are huge... taking about 40%.
Here in Georgia, the lottery players pay full college tuition for about 70% of our college students. Why? Because more money goes into the lottery system than comes out... as I just explained.
Or, better yet.. How about this.
You play the El Hugo Multi-Trillion Dollar Jackpot everyday of the year for 50 years. The ticket is $1 and you buy one ticket everyday. The odds of winning are 1 in 150 million.
The odds of you winning the jackpot ONCE are
$$\[1-\(\
frac{150000000-1}{150000000}\)^{365*50}\]*100 = 0.0122%$$
So in 50 years of playing everyday, it's a safe bet (pun not intended) that you'll never win.
How much money did you spend? $$$1 * 365 *50 = $18,250. That's a lot of waste. You could buy a lot of pussy for that kind of money.
Now, let's assume we invest $1 everyday in mutual funds that average 12% return. In the same time period, you'll have $105,485.80. That's a turnaround of 123,735.80!
And it will happen... every fucking time. Put in $10 a day and you'll be a millionaire.
But...no... you want to hope.. dream. Sounds sort of like the bullshit Obama said to get elected.
You missed my point, bro.
The point is... could you live a normal and happy life if no girl ever found you sexually attractive. If they answer is no, you got some issues. The first one that comes to mind is that you don't have enough enough going on in your life. If you had enough going on in your life, women become a bonus in your life. Have you ever seen guys or had male friends that attracted women without the male even trying? Like women just flocked around him... he doesn't use pickup lines or anything. He's a magnet.
That guy, if you were to ask him how, would say he doesn't know. Why? Because he doesn't spend his free time thinking about women and getting in their pants. He's way too busy having a life of meaning. When a woman wants to get to know him (because he's just so damn interesting), he realizes he doesn't need her and hence, doesn't act all needy. She quickly trusts him... and believe me, trust is very sexy. Why? Women crave safetly and security.
When you try to game a woman, she knows it and that is a creepy feeling to her...
How about... you read it again and post which parts you don't understand.
You totally missed my definition of need. A need is anything we require to sustain life. If we are denied a need, we die.
In the minds of many, getting laid is a life or death situation.
It's not. Stop needing sex. You don't need it to wake up the next morning.
This doesn't men don't peruse it... just stop needing it. Once you stop needing sex, your mind and body are more relaxed when you're around a woman. She'll trust you more... and, as I said, trust is very sexy.
First, they gay men. As I said, all men are inheriently fun. We like the big, the spectactular, the load, the rough, the fast, etc. Men are just grown up little boys. When we were little boys, we'd throw snow balls at moving cars, race motorcycles, play pranks on our friends, etc.
Women like fun, and gay men offer all the fun of any man. The only difference between a gay man and a straight man is how we look at women. A gay guy has no intention of fucking her. So, she can trust him and let loose around him.
A straight man, on the other hand, may have intentions of trying to fuck her. A women know this is the case for EVERY straight man. But, there are two kinds of straight men. The first is the straight man that "needs" sex to have a good time. If he isn't going to score with this girl by the end of the night, his life sucks more and he'll move on to the next girl.
Notice what happened there. First, that statement "his life sucks more." This trait in a man is VERY unattractive. A man that women find attractive are those men that do not, and I repeat, DO NOT define their self worth by their success or failures. Also, they don't allow the people in and out of their own life define who they are.
When an attractive man "fails," he sees opportunity to succeed at something...
Look at these situations... here is what an attractive man says:
If he didn't get sex from that girl, cool! Great! I'll make great friends with her and meet her friends. We'll have loads of fun.
If he got fired from his job, cool! Great! Awesome! I now have more time to find a better job and learn new skills!
If his car runs out of gasoline 10 miles from the nearest gas station. LOL! I could use the exercise!
Where's the success in these failures? Networking with more girls, finding a better job and having time for education, and getting some exercise.
Now, look at the statement "he'll move on to the next girl." While there is nothing wrong with meeting woman after woman until you find the one you want, it's a strategy that backfires when your only goal is sex. And women can smell a sex hound from a mile away.
A remember a few years ago at work, a girl told me that it was blatantly obvious all I wanted from the women at work was sex. I didn't talk dirty at work for fear of being written up or fired for sexual harassment. So, how did she know? Because I am a guy? No... because she singled me out from all the other men. She had a hard time explaining, but she said that it was just the way I walked, how I looked at women, what I did when I was talking with women, etc.
Honestly, I don't even know what I was doing... it's all body language.
When I reduced my need for sex, my body language changed dramatically. Women now initiate conversation with me at random. Just the other day I was at the mall and, out of nowhere, this amazingly attractive 20 year old girl sits down at my table in the seat directly across from me and asked me out.
Given that my viewpoints on women are different from yours and that I have more success in having women approach ME instead of the other way around, I must be more right than you are wrong.
The difference between the nice guy and the ugly loser that attracts women is that this ugly loser hasn't intellectualized everything to death and he generally doesn't pussy foot around the issue of sex.
Women don't flock to ugly losers because most of them have NOTHING going for them. They have no money, live with mom, ugly, fat, and unhealthy. Call a man with thse traits Bob. If Bob meets a girl, is genuinely interested in her, and isn't afraid to flirt, he's got a much MUCH better chance of "getting the girl" than the nice guy that comes off as a creep or is too much of a pussy to flirt until it's too late.$$
The scary part is... i ant sure that gettin som "puzzy" is what hes truly after... i mean... he coud pay a "ho" for that... hmmm... but mayb he did try to buy a ho an was turned down
yeah, she said he was too "nice".
EXACTLY! There's no chemistry. No one wants to have sex with an idiot, which is why you aren't getting laid
Exactly.. that's all I am trying to get to.
All men seem to fall within the same spectrum.
On one end, is the macho jerk. On the other end is the New Age Pussy.
In my opinion, lixluke gives the impression of a New Age Pussy. He whines, complains, and thinks everyone should share and not work...
Lixluke... I have an idea for you. The next time you see a girl that you have sexual attraction for, I want you to tell her. Walk straight up to her in a nonthreatening and friendly manner and say something like "look, I don't expect anything from you but I have to be honest to you. I find you sexually appealing and I thought that you should know how I feel. I expect nothing and I don't need anything from you. But, if you're interested, we can go out someday and I can invite you into my world."
You'd be surprised how well this works. it cuts all the bullshit that women smell on a man. Secondly, it takes HUGE balls to do this... and women just love a man with balls.
You might not get laid from this woman for doing it... but trust me, you'll likely have made a new friend.
Again, do this is a nonthreatening and friendly way... and be GENUINE about it. Don't do it like you're a thug, player, pimp, or whatever. Just be real... calm, cool, and natural... be yourself.
If done properly and without ill intentions (like, "haha omg I sooooo hope to bang this chick"), she won't slap you, be offended, etc. If she laughs, it's either because she is totally thrown off by the randomness or because she doesn't take what you said seriously. She could take it as not being serious if you send conflicting signals of intention or you come across as threatening.
Or, just stop caring about sex... live a great life... and when women want to get into your pants, they will make it fairly obvious.
Or go to bars and get loose. Walk up to a girl and say "I like your face." Or sneak up on a 9/10 or 10/10 chick in a bar and whisper in her ear "did you just fart?" and then walk away... totally throws her off.
I know I'd be surprised if it worked.
Then someone hasn't tried it on you.
Pay attention to what I just said in there. I said "sexually appealing." I didn't say "I fantasize having sex with you."
It's all about cutting out the bullshit. I'm working on that in my life... I'm tired of lying and I want to speak the truth. If I think you're doing a bad job at work, I'll tell you.
And I am also tired of being offended by the truth. If my haircut sucks, I don't want people to lie to me and say that it's great. Fucking tell me.
There is no point in being offended by the truth. Either a statement is true or false (for practical purposes we will assume this, ok?). If Alice is fat then she's fat. Too many beat around the bush by saying "oh she is just retaining water" or "she's big boned" or "her curves are amazing." No, she's fat. A lard ass. She eats too much food.
Now, this doesn't mean I will go up to Alice and complain about her fatness. If I have no reason to say anything, I won't call her out. If she isn't bothering me, I won't bother her. But, if she takes the last motorized shopping cart in the store when I can clearly see she is capable of walking and my aunt with POLIO needs it to get around the store, then I will call her out on being too fat and lazy to walk.
But back to being blunt with women... it works a hell of a lot more than you think. Women realize there are generally two types of men... those that think about screwing her and say nothing and those that think about screwing her and don't bullshit about that. Some men don't want to screw her and there are two reasons for it: they are asexual or totally turned off. Even a healthy married man can't help thinking about sex with other women.
Those that aren't bullshitting her have balls. Balls are sexy.
But all men also need to provide safety, security, and they need to genuinely care about the women in his life. Rarely can a man and women just jump into sex without some sort of rapport.
I know of a guy that walks up to women and asks "want to fuck in the bathroom?" It works about 20% of the time for the guy... but he also has the power to name-drop the name of a celebrity is hangs out with... so he's always got access to a Lambo.
Another guy... just a regular guy... goes:
Him: Hello
Her: Hi
Him: So, what are you doing later tonight?
Her: I don't know yet
Him: Want to go back to my place later tonight?
After her response.. yes or no... he just talks about random things to get to know her. Showing true interest in her. It's a 50/50 thing to take her home that night.
Why? Balls.
damn, you're good.
Sarcasm, I assume?
I suppose you've never met a man that can pull this stuff off. They make up about 5% of the male population.
They are so few and far between because most men think that looks, money, and a big penis are all that matter. Plus, they don't care about the woman at all...
A man has to be present with himself, appreciate a woman for what she is, and have impecible integrity (which means being true to his beliefs and not bullshitting anyone. If something goes against his values, he doesn't settle to make peace. He might piss off his friends or get fired, but oh well. That doesn't mean be an asshole, though.).