TheVisitor: The seven heads... are the seven mountains, or the seven hills upon which the city sits. There is one city that sits on seven hills. Rome.
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M*W: Why is this so profound?
The beast who's deadly wound was healed.
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M*W: The RCC teaches that the beast was Nero. Although he didn't come back with a "wound that was healed," the Roman Emperors continued. Also, the "wound that was healed," could be a metaphor. That's what I think.
A beast represents a power... If you start at the beginning you can follow the trail of the serpent through time, and learn to recognize it.
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M*W: Well, by doing that, you could actually start at any point and create whatever trail you wanted to. There's only six degrees of separation between each of us. That's not a big deal. You can start with the serpent in Eden and end up with Princess Diana, Angelina Jolie, or Sadaam Hussein, if you wanted to!
The beast in the beginning was the serpent in the garden, that fathered Cain. He was "of his father the wicked one" God was not his father, as God was Adam's father.
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M*W: All metaphor, no reality.
Satan was his father. Cain was religious but had no true spiritual understanding, because he was of they that have no love of the truth.
He worshiped the wrong things in the wrong way.
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M*W: Just curious. What were Cain's religious ties? What language did Cain speak? Has Cain gone to hell? Remember, these folks were never baptised, so how could any of them get into heaven?
His "offering" was not accepted. His children down through time have come to represent the "characteristic's" of Satan... always minding the things of men instead of the things of God.
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M*W: If Cain was fathered by the Serpent, then why didn't god just do away with him early on? Who do you think Cain sired that are Satanic today? Just curious.
So when Jesus told the religious leaders of His day: "you are of your father the devil and his works you do"... He was telling them there origins were not of God, and they are manifesting in their corruption of His Word, and His Laws... they are manifesting where their true origin lies.
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M*W: Who were these "true religious leaders in Jesus' day?" Who are the "true religious leaders" of our day?
There is nothing surprising about their origins not being from god, after all there were "elohim" (eloh-"im" means many "el-oh" or "many god."
Also, please explain where the origin of "god's word" came from (at the beginning of time). Then, explain how "god's word" became "flesh." How did this play on words come to be known as "Jesus?" There is no evidence for this in the bible.
That is a "mark" of the beast. A generation of "vipers". As a world power this "seven heads" represent Rome. The city on seven hills.
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M*W: The "seven heads" are also known as a place called Septimania, on the Southern coast of France in the Languedoc, where Mary Magdalen was supposed to have settled pregnant with Christ's child.
It had the power as a nation to put Jesus to death on the cross. The Jews did not have that power, and depended on Roman law and it's courts to do their works for them.
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M*W: Yet, there is still no evidence for Jesus' crucifixion. How could the diligent Roman record keepers have missed one little radical Jew's crucifixion?
The beast that had one it's heads wounded to death, and it's deadly wound was healed... was when old Papal Rome was wounded by Christianity, but overcame it by mixing it's pagan beliefs with Christian names and thus it was restored to life as Papal Rome... still representing the beast.
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M*W: Well, far be it from me to not agree with Papal Rome representing the beast.
Are you saying one of the seven hills of Rome was destroyed? When I was there, those seven hills looked to be intact. I believe you are confusing metaphor with fiction.
The beast that was... and is not, yet is, is the succession of one Pope after the death of another down through the seven church ages allotted the Gentiles with the Word of God.
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M*W: Now enter the papal succession as the beast. Like I said earlier, you can make the seven hills anything you want, you can make the seven heads anyone you want, you can make the seven churches anything that you want. It's all metaphor anyway! In other words, it doesn't really matter!
God sent a messenger to each age, and for a while they follow the message of God for their age, but after a while... they build a denomination around the portion of the light they received so far, and when God sends another of His seven stars... and they refuse to accept more light and fall back into darkness.
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M*W: Oh, god... now we're talking "seven stars!" Stars represented angels (any angels you want can apply here!). Stars give light, the sun gives light (more metaphor here)!
This is the way the Protestants have been formed, first coming out of their "mother" church, Catholicism and then coming out one of another creating the denominations we have today.
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M*W: Man-made religions are just that, man-made. There is no truth, there is no substance, there is no reality, to man-made religions. ALL religions are man-made religions. They are fictional. They all lie. They all control people. They all brainwash the believers who suck-up the brainwashing like sponge for brains. Ultimately, they all destroy those who believe in them.
They are a beast resulting from the falling of angels messages over time....angels that are messengers of God.
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M*W: The beast is now fallen angels. The beast are messengers of god! This I believe!
Each church age fell into apostasy and darkness, when God sent another messenger with a further revelation of the truth opening up a "new" age... but those of the previous age reject it... because it is not in line with their traditions.
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M*W: The church is the epitome of evil. Everything that comes out of the church, sets out to destroy its believers. Run away from it as fast as you can!
Then after the seventh church age started by the seven messengers or stars in His hand, was over, and it is, He came Himself, as the Son of Man... and He did.
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M*W: Again, no evidence whatsoever. The son-of-man is metaphor for the sun-of-god. He didn't come then, and he ain't coming now. For those who believe, it's false hope.
They missed Him just as surely as the Jews missed Him the first time because they were bound in darkness.
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M*W: And, he will be missed again, no doubt, because he didn't exist in the first place!
Leaving only a shell of what was a move of God, fallen Babylon in the wake... the "mother" of the abominations of the Earth. Full of names of blasphemy... Baptist, Methodist, Catholic, ect, ect, ect...
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M*W: Yes, you're right about this one. They're all "abominations of the Earth."
It has become the hold of foul spirits, the cage of every hateful and unclean bird.
Therefor they shall hate her flesh and burn it with fire.
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M*W: Yeah, they did this, too, ion the burning times.
This is "that" day spoken of by the prophets. The day of the vengeance of the Lord, that burneth as an oven.
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M*W: There were no prophets, either! "The Lord" is a metaphor for the sun. The sun "burneth as an oven." Go back and read your bible. Everywhere it mentions "the Lord," replace that with "the sun." Then maybe you'll see how all bullshit came to be.
