Magical Realist
Valued Senior Member
Hasnt this been discussed quadrillion number of times and proven to be an atmospheric phenomena of light from cars passing on highway not far out?
All the videos that I can find claiming the lights are not car lights never give any point of references or anything. At least try to falsify the claim, unless that's what you don't want to do.
Magical, that really wasn't my point. I was criticizing the video takers for how they go about doing their video, not your ability to find videos. I could take video of lights with no frame of reference and claim they are something, but so what?
Here's what I think someone should do, and maybe it's out there somewhere. Either a time lapse video before and after dusk, or just a video before and after dark, to try and give some idea of where these lights are at, either actual or virtual positioning? That's one of the misleading things about these kind of videos, all you see are the lights, and no other reference point.
Better yet, have several videos taken at the same time, from different vantage points. That would at least determine if there's an actual position or an optical illusion source. A lot like that one miracle in Jerusalem was made to seem more authentic, but then used to debunk, because it was "seen" from several areas (but then they didn't match up after closer analysis).
How about what these guys did from Michigan Tech for the Paulding Lights?
http://youtu.be/YKIQ8DpWC_Q
When you post about a crackpottish subject that can be easily debunked via a 30 second scan of a wiki article, it is tough to figure how you might expect different. But anyway:I'm not as naive as you might think.
There is no primary source evidence of that, just a claim in an old magazine that has been repeated over and over. It isn't worth anything.Yeah, all those native americans were watching cars back in the 1800's..lol!
Anyone can recognize superficial differences. Recognizing how slightly different looking things might actually be the same is what requires the skill and knowledge. As an amateur astrophotographer, I've spent a lot of time taking highly magnified photos of lights in the sky and as a navigator in the Navy, I spent a lot of time looking at distant lights on the horizon with high-power binoculars. There is no question in my mind both of those are videos of cars. The differences are easily explainable due to the exposure of the video and possible differences in weather. The real Marfa lights are headlights.Marfa headlights:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzzwMMr2d-E
Real Marfa lights:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UK6FdxghTj8
Can YOU tell the difference? Most people can..
Atmospheric refraction separates colors and causes lights to dance like looking at an object at the bottom of a pool.The REAL lights have a different quality to them--they are multicolored and seem to dance with each other.
I'm quite certain you made that up and in any case, the linked videos contradict it.They also appear suddenly and only at certain point in the night.
The reason they have so much trouble is by the time they get to where the lights are, they've driven away. They need to station a second observer on the road like the Texas college students did.Seems there's been a long history of people trying to hunt them down but to no avail.
There's no need for that. Using a compass and a map to ensure you know where you are looking allows you to station a person on the road to count the cars as they go by. Using your own car as a marker is even better.If the area is so hard to get closer, why not charter a small plane to fly over as the lights are showing? If the pilot can't see them, then that's suggestive of some type of mirage imaging going on on the surface level. If they can pinpoint a fixed source, then further research can be done. Or again, view the same lights, synced up video cameras, from different places, to triangular a location. Maybe they can't be seen but from certain areas, again implying an optical source, just like a rainbow can't be seen from all angles.
Can you give a source for this, and explain why you think their conclusion is dubious?