The Boston Marathon Bombing
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In the US we don't see that pattern. The rightwing terrorist stuff, especially involving bombs, is cryptic for the most part - they get their message across by choice of target (abortion clinic, female Dem politician, uppity black person, Federal government building, liberal festival in liberal Eastern city) and timing (anniversary of Waco, Patriots' Day, etc).
They don't advertise the societal change they seek because it would be bad PR.
The growing chorus of "false flag" conspiracy suspicion is kind of interesting in its apparent assumptions - that the way to remove the roadblocks to tyranny is to terrorize the political faction that most identifies with the Boston Marathon. Apparently the false flag theorists take for granted that the liberals are the ones blocking tyranny's progress.
Bells
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Could you cite your sources please?
I am guessing that the Saudi does not match the description of the suspects in any way, shape or form..
However, those at Info Wars like their little conspiracy theories:
Moments after the FBI revealed images of two baseball cap-wearing men wanted for questioning about the Boston bombings, the press conference descended into a sideshow.
A journalist from a far-right wing website called Info Wars shouted out a question accusing the government of carrying out the attack that killed three, and maimed or injured 170 others.
FBI Special Agent in Charge Richard Deslauriers ignored the allegation of a government conspiracy from reporter Daniel Biondi, but the Alex Jones protege did not stop hollering.
"The FBI lies," Biondi said. "We've got the proof," he said accusing the government of a "false flag" attack in which it staged the blasts and made them appear like the work of terrorists.
Biondi found himself at the center of an media scrum with cameras and microphones pointed at his face after law enforcement officials left the podium in the Sheraton hotel.
Another reporter ridiculed Biondi from across the room, telling him to shut up and calling him an asshole.
A journalist from a far-right wing website called Info Wars shouted out a question accusing the government of carrying out the attack that killed three, and maimed or injured 170 others.
FBI Special Agent in Charge Richard Deslauriers ignored the allegation of a government conspiracy from reporter Daniel Biondi, but the Alex Jones protege did not stop hollering.
"The FBI lies," Biondi said. "We've got the proof," he said accusing the government of a "false flag" attack in which it staged the blasts and made them appear like the work of terrorists.
Biondi found himself at the center of an media scrum with cameras and microphones pointed at his face after law enforcement officials left the podium in the Sheraton hotel.
Another reporter ridiculed Biondi from across the room, telling him to shut up and calling him an asshole.
Alex Jones and his site should be expected to turn anything into a freak show and making public spectacles of themselves is the way they like to go about it.
The media's role in the portrayal of this incident will leave a lot of questions unanswered about the ethical standards of reporting. Not just from the right, but also from the left. Because the result of plasting the images of innocent minors of the 'bag men' on certain news sites have resulted in attacks on innocent civilians and others having their photo's placed on the front page of newspaper's because of their nationality or skin colour.
Hours after the Boston Marathon bombing, there was already Internet chatter that a "Saudi national" was the suspect. Police raided the apartment of Abdulrahman Ali Alharbi, a 22-year-old student from Saudi Arabia, as he was recovering from the blasts in a Boston hospital.
Next, CNN's John King raised the alarm about a more elusive "dark-skinned male" who the TV reporter said was in custody on Wednesday.
The following day, the New York Post got more specific. It slapped pictures of two young men on its front page, calling them "Bag Men" and identifying them as persons of interest to federal authorities. One was Salah Barhoum, 17, a Moroccan American middle-distance runner.
And then there was news that a man in Bronx, N.Y., who was born in Bangladesh was beaten up for supposedly being "a f*cking Arab" by a group of men who wanted retribution for the marathon bombing.
A Palestinian woman near Boston also reported being the victim of a hateful assault on Wednesday, when a man hit her and yelled, "F*ck you Muslims! You are terrorists! I hate you! You are involved in the Boston explosions."
What all of these people have in common is that they're innocent of the bombing. They also happen not to be white.
Alharbi had "every inch" of his apartment searched by law enforcement, with authorities seen lugging away bags of items from his home. Residents in his building called it "a startling show of force." His roommate was questioned for five hours.
"I was scared," the roommate, Mohammed Hassan Bada, 20, of Saudi Arabia, told the Boston Herald.
Meanwhile, Alharbi was recovering from shrapnel wounds in a hospital. News outlets later reported that he was a witness, not a suspect, and "was apparently in the wrong place at the wrong time."
CNN's "dark-skinned male" never materialized, as it quickly became clear that its report of an arrest was wrong. PBS journalist Gwen Ifill said she found it "disturbing" that a television network was allowed to characterize a supposed bombing suspect in such a way.
Barhoum had his world turned upside-down when he saw himself on the cover of the New York Post.
"It's the worst feeling that I can possibly feel. ... I'm only 17," he said. His mother, meanwhile, felt "sick and upset."
Barhoum went to the police on Wednesday to clear his name, after he noticed photos of himself getting tagged on social media. He was unable to compete in the marathon, but decided to go and watch. Federal authorities told ABC News that they were passing around his picture to find more information -- as they no doubt were doing with pictures of many of the people photographed on Monday.
Later Thursday, after a public outcry over its cover image, the New York Post ran a follow-up story clarifying that authorities said the two "bag men" had "neither had any information or role in Monday’s attacks at the Boston Marathon."
The rush for indictment and revenge has also taken a toll on Abdullah Faruque, 30, the Bronx man who was beaten up for having brown skin and looking "Arab." He was assaulted by three or four men outside an Applebee's on Monday, just hours after the bombing.
"One of the guys asked if I was Arab. I just shook my head, said like, ‘Yeah, whatever.’ I didn’t even know that [the] Boston [bombing] happened because I had a busy day,” Faruque explained to the New York Post.
"Yeah, he's a f*cking Arab," responded one of the men, before the group jumped him. They dislocated his shoulder and left him semiconscious.
Heba Abolaban, who lives near Boston, was assaulted and harassed on Wednesday. Abolaban told Malden Patch that while she and her friend, who were both wearing hijabs, were walking with their children, a man came up and punched her shoulder and accused them of being involved in the Boston Marathon bombing.
“I did not say anything to him,” Abolaban said. “Not even that we aren't terrorists. ... He was so aggressive.”
Next, CNN's John King raised the alarm about a more elusive "dark-skinned male" who the TV reporter said was in custody on Wednesday.
The following day, the New York Post got more specific. It slapped pictures of two young men on its front page, calling them "Bag Men" and identifying them as persons of interest to federal authorities. One was Salah Barhoum, 17, a Moroccan American middle-distance runner.
And then there was news that a man in Bronx, N.Y., who was born in Bangladesh was beaten up for supposedly being "a f*cking Arab" by a group of men who wanted retribution for the marathon bombing.
A Palestinian woman near Boston also reported being the victim of a hateful assault on Wednesday, when a man hit her and yelled, "F*ck you Muslims! You are terrorists! I hate you! You are involved in the Boston explosions."
What all of these people have in common is that they're innocent of the bombing. They also happen not to be white.
Alharbi had "every inch" of his apartment searched by law enforcement, with authorities seen lugging away bags of items from his home. Residents in his building called it "a startling show of force." His roommate was questioned for five hours.
"I was scared," the roommate, Mohammed Hassan Bada, 20, of Saudi Arabia, told the Boston Herald.
Meanwhile, Alharbi was recovering from shrapnel wounds in a hospital. News outlets later reported that he was a witness, not a suspect, and "was apparently in the wrong place at the wrong time."
CNN's "dark-skinned male" never materialized, as it quickly became clear that its report of an arrest was wrong. PBS journalist Gwen Ifill said she found it "disturbing" that a television network was allowed to characterize a supposed bombing suspect in such a way.
Barhoum had his world turned upside-down when he saw himself on the cover of the New York Post.
"It's the worst feeling that I can possibly feel. ... I'm only 17," he said. His mother, meanwhile, felt "sick and upset."
Barhoum went to the police on Wednesday to clear his name, after he noticed photos of himself getting tagged on social media. He was unable to compete in the marathon, but decided to go and watch. Federal authorities told ABC News that they were passing around his picture to find more information -- as they no doubt were doing with pictures of many of the people photographed on Monday.
Later Thursday, after a public outcry over its cover image, the New York Post ran a follow-up story clarifying that authorities said the two "bag men" had "neither had any information or role in Monday’s attacks at the Boston Marathon."
The rush for indictment and revenge has also taken a toll on Abdullah Faruque, 30, the Bronx man who was beaten up for having brown skin and looking "Arab." He was assaulted by three or four men outside an Applebee's on Monday, just hours after the bombing.
"One of the guys asked if I was Arab. I just shook my head, said like, ‘Yeah, whatever.’ I didn’t even know that [the] Boston [bombing] happened because I had a busy day,” Faruque explained to the New York Post.
"Yeah, he's a f*cking Arab," responded one of the men, before the group jumped him. They dislocated his shoulder and left him semiconscious.
Heba Abolaban, who lives near Boston, was assaulted and harassed on Wednesday. Abolaban told Malden Patch that while she and her friend, who were both wearing hijabs, were walking with their children, a man came up and punched her shoulder and accused them of being involved in the Boston Marathon bombing.
“I did not say anything to him,” Abolaban said. “Not even that we aren't terrorists. ... He was so aggressive.”
It's all well and good to have a degree of skepticism. But downright paranoia about innocent people because of their religion, nationality and skin colour will result in innocent people being attacked and abused for something they have not done. Comments about the Saudi's family, etc, help stir up such paranoia and is a part of the problem.
The Saudi who was questioned is a witness recovering in hospital with shrapnel wounds, because like all the other victims, he was watching the race.
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Bells
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If you are talking about the Saudi the media reported was detained and questioned and his apartment searched...
The Saudi who was questioned and his apartment searched is recovering in hospital from shrapnel wounds because he was watching the end of the race and was injured when the bombs exploded. He is a witness and not a suspect.
It is absolutely disgusting how many apparently intelligent people have fallen into this conspiracy cycle.
Why was he deported? And Napolitano handled the Q & A badly too.
Bells
Staff member
Was he deported?
From CK's link:
Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano dismissed a question “not worthy of an answer” by Rep. Jeff Duncan during a Capitol Hill hearing Thursday, who asked about the alleged deportation of a Saudi national who was questioned as a witness in the Boston bombings.
Emphasis added is mine..
They now say the Saudi is still in hospital recovering from shrapnel wounds and is a witness and not a suspect.
Look at the images posted by the FBI and now look at the photo of the Saudi:
So has he been deported? All reports of his deportation say 'alleged'..
He's in hospital..
But read sites like those belonging to Debbie Schlussel, the kid has been deported and is apparently 'guilty'.. WND decided to delve deeper into the conspiracy, linking Abdulrahman Ali Alharbi to Al Qaeda..
And seemingly intelligent people are falling for it, hook, line and sinker..
There is no confirmation that he has been deported or connected to the bombings. Absolutely none. The FBI have stated that he is not a person of interest but is instead a witness who was injured in the blast.
Well, JN should have answered the question better. It's sad that brown people are being targeted by ignorant bigots.
holy shit, something weird is going on in Boston.
Officer killed in MIT campus shooting, officials chase suspected gunmen
Gunfire, explosions after MIT police officer killed
Officer killed in MIT campus shooting, officials chase suspected gunmen
Gunfire, explosions after MIT police officer killed
Chaotic scene in Boston area after explosions, gunfire, fatal shooting of MIT campus officer
3 loud "booms" were heard in Watertown MA
3 loud "booms" were heard in Watertown MA
I think this week shows yet again that society is run totally different from how people view it to be. The gov runs our societies far different from the ways they tell us, and this shows out in the ignorance in the statements of the public over last week again.
Which statements?
Anyway, http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/201...d-another-still-on-run-officials-say#comments
one suspect dead, another at large. both believed to have been involved in the marathon bombing
To circumvent rumours, surely "It's a different person" might have served as a better answer than "That is not worthy of an answer",
especially when the question was asked by a congressman.
Does she always treat elected representatives with utter contempt?
Napolitano:
"Don't ask stupid questions Duncan, insect boy! You too Kremmen."
Kremmen:
"Yes Maam. Oh, and might I say that's a lovely jacket you're wearing today"
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Quick! To the Batcave, Robin.
Na na na na na.
these guys were really fierce.
[video=youtube;wSlRHJv1nnA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wSlRHJv1nnA#![/video]
Couldn't see anything.
Looked like they were attacking a UFO.
It sounded good.
The dog was in wake up the house mode..
And what was that bird cry? A Whippoorwill?
An Owl being shot?
Looked like they were attacking a UFO.
It sounded good.
The dog was in wake up the house mode..
And what was that bird cry? A Whippoorwill?
An Owl being shot?
No idea. But listen to the number of shots fired. One guy even posted photos of his bullet-riddled couch.
Boston under lockdown.
Public transport cancelled.
One suspect is dead.
The other has escaped.
Everyone indoors, frightened.
Hope he doesn't start strangling people.
We have something in the UK that US police might try.
It's called capturing people.
You get a hell of a lot more information out of them that way.
Mmmh.... that couch looked Arabic to me.
Just in. Police arrest suspicious looking couch
Police Officer: "Don't move, I've got you covered"
Public transport cancelled.
One suspect is dead.
The other has escaped.
Everyone indoors, frightened.
Hope he doesn't start strangling people.
We have something in the UK that US police might try.
It's called capturing people.
You get a hell of a lot more information out of them that way.
Mmmh.... that couch looked Arabic to me.
Just in. Police arrest suspicious looking couch
Police Officer: "Don't move, I've got you covered"
Is capturing someone the chief objective when they're shooting and throwing grenades at you?
And who says it was the cops who shot up the couch? Oh well, I suppose it's easier to make crap up than to learn the facts. Hey, maybe you'll be mailing ricin to the president someday too!