The BICEP2 Project at the South Pole:

[paddoboy]

. So far you've been a pathetically embarrassing (to all 'sides') sycophantic needy troll case. Not healthy. Take a break and then do better. Good luck.

You've gained an won nothing. It's like your ToE....delusional unreal pretend abstract ideas, that will get you nowhere.

 

[Undefined]

You've gained an won nothing. It's like your ToE....delusional unreal pretend abstract ideas, that will get you nowhere.

You missed this maybe?

Paddo, have you caught up where the other mainstreamers are finally catching up with the 'cranks' and joining in on the all round dismissal of that obviously flawed 'publish or perish' work/paper?

Do you have to have your nose rubbed in it again and again before you stop your inane 'crowing' and mindless personal trolling tactics in lieu of a point?

Your practically 'religious faith and belief' in 'authority' and 'orthodoxy' is getting a reality-check from the other mainstreamers who agree with the 'crank' NOW and are at last 'taking logical shears' and shredding apart the very same systemic, assumptive and procedural flaws in that 'work/paper' that I spotted as obvious long before they came to the 'shredding party'.

Take a moment to reflect on your shaky basis for your lame pretense and even lamer 'me too-ing' trolling, mate. It's not as you 'be;ieved' it was, paddo. Good luck with the adjustment to the reality for a change!

 

[paddoboy]

Take a moment to reflect on your shaky basis for your lame pretense and even lamer 'me too-ing' trolling, mate. It's not as you 'be;ieved' it was, paddo. Good luck with the adjustment to the reality for a change!

See post 21....
I don't believe a word you are saying undefined...
But I would hazard a guess and say many here are getting rather tired of you putting people down because they disagree with you.
You ain't no Einstein, obviously, and there are others here, who are a dozen rungs further up the ladder then you.

I'll keep a watch out but for another of your little childish nasty blasts....
Always good for a laugh.

 

[Undefined]

See post 21....
I don't believe a word you are saying undefined...
But I would hazard a guess and say many here are getting rather tired of you putting people down because they disagree with you.
You ain't no Einstein, obviously, and there are others here, who are a dozen rungs further up the ladder then you.

I'll keep a watch out but for another of your little childish nasty blasts....
Always good for a laugh.

So the fact that I was the first 'crank' (in another forum) to see the obvious flaws in that 'publish or perish' driven BS 'work/paper', and that I got SERIOUS flak from some mainstream believers for even mentioning it and cautioning others not to accept any of it before they check it all through for themselves and find the flaws for themselves, doesn't even stop and make you think that maybe some 'cranks' are better than mainstream at spotting the BS from mainstream?

Even the fact that after my comments the braver and more honest mainstream cosmologists also took a closer look at that BS 'paper' and found some (not all) of the same systemic/assumptive/procedural flaws I found practically straight away, doesn't make you stop and re-think your blind 'faith' and facile 'belief' and sycophantic 'me too' way of 'getting a laymen's handle on things' and making personal opinions about others from that flawed base of your own?

Good luck with that, mate.

 

[paddoboy]

doesn't make you stop and re-think your blind 'faith' and facile 'belief' and sycophantic 'me too' way of 'getting a laymen's handle on things' and making personal opinions about others from that flawed base of your own?

Good luck with that, mate.

I don't have blind faith and facile belief, but then again, neither do I have the paranoia re delusions of grandeur.

 

[Undefined]

I don't have blind faith and facile belief, but then again, neither do I have the paranoia re delusions of grandeur.

Since you have no real science work pr understandings to speak of, then of course almost ANYBODY would seem 'grander' than you. Envy is not a good look, mate.

Have you anything except more paddo-noise to post, or is the scientific discussion/content still far beyond your admitted ignorant/confused layman 'handle on things'?

 

[paddoboy]

Since you have no real science work pr understandings to speak of, then of course almost ANYBODY would seem 'grander' than you. Envy is not a good look, mate.

Most here are almost certainly grander then me....I humbly submit to that fact.
And likewise I'm certain they are much grander then yourself.

 

[Undefined]

Most here are almost certainly grander then me....I humbly submit to that fact.
And likewise I'm certain they are much grander then yourself.

Haven't you learned it yet? It's not about the person/source, it's about the objective discourse of the points. If you obviously ahven't any sort of cogent 'handle' on anything presented by either ;side' in the discourse, you aren't even IN the discourse. Period.

The work speaks for itself, and yours is NON-existent by any objective measure. So you are just 'me too-ing' for all you're worth with every troll and mainstream quote/link you mindlessly and cluelessly make pretending to 'have a handle' and 'agreeing' with things you have no bloody idea of.

You are irrelevant and annoyingly blatantly dishonest, rude, hypocritical and just plain dumb. And you think anyone except your 'troll peers' listens to what you say in all those 'paddo noise posts' you make as if you have any relevance to the objective polite discourse?

Mate, for your own future's and karma's sake, re-think what you are and do here, and then don't. First actually learn and understand things for real, not as 'me too' pretense. OK. Then return with polite and objective and respectful science discourse minimum standards of comprehension and understandings which give you a hope of being relevant instead of less that useless mindless and annoying troll as you've proved so far. Good luck.

 

[paddoboy]

Haven't you learned it yet? It's not about the person/source, it's about the objective discourse of the points.

You first mentioned the person issue :shrug:

If you obviously ahven't any sort of cogent 'handle' on anything presented by either ;side' in the discourse, you aren't even IN the discourse. Period.

Óh, I'm there alright...offering advice when I need, giving reputable links when required, learning from others that know more then I.
You must learn to accept that. OK?

The work speaks for itself, and yours is NON-existent by any objective measure. So you are just 'me too-ing' for all you're worth with every troll and mainstream quote/link you mindlessly and cluelessly make pretending to 'have a handle' and 'agreeing' with things you have no bloody idea of.

I think my posts reflect otherwise.....Your's of late are reflecting something else, I'm slightly worried about.

You are irrelevant and annoyingly blatantly dishonest, rude, hypocritical and just plain dumb. And you think anyone except your 'troll peers' listens to what you say in all those 'paddo noise posts' you make as if you have any relevance to the objective polite discourse?

That's your opinion...your frustrations of late though present something far more serious in content.
BTW, no, I'm not dishonest...I just call a spade a shovel, and won't be pistol whipped into submission by maniacal posts.

Mate, for your own future's and karma's sake, re-think what you are and do here, and then don't.

In actual fact, that applies to you and others [you call them trolls] would agree.

Take it easy. I am.

 

[Undefined]

You first mentioned the person issue :shrug:





Óh, I'm there alright...offering advice when I need, giving reputable links when required, learning from others that know more then I.
You must learn to accept that. OK?





I think my posts reflect otherwise.....Your's of late are reflecting something else, I'm slightly worried about.







That's your opinion...your frustrations of late though present something far more serious in content.
BTW, no, I'm not dishonest...I just call a spade a shovel, and won't be pistol whipped into submission by maniacal posts.




In actual fact, that applies to you and others [you call them trolls] would agree.

Take it easy. I am.

Your cheerleading links and 'me too' agreement with others without understanding the contents (which you have been forced to admit again and again) makes ALL your 'references to the PERSON/SOURCE and AUTHORITY APPEALS without you even knowing what you are 'agreeing' with just because you 'believe' in the 'sources/persons' instead of thinking for yourself.

Your 'peers' are the other worse than useless trolls, spoilers and timewasters without a clue.

Anything else you have to say is irrelevant to the science discourse so far. You've proven rude, disrespectful, hypocritical, liar, mindless sycophant and just plain dumb internet troll like all the other 'dime a dozen' internet trolls you've obviously patterned yourself after. Good luck with that, silly. I hope your wifey doesn't find out about what you've been up to! She'll tell you what for then, I bet!.....and your newly built 'man cave' will be your 'newly built doghouse' for quite a while, hey? You poor clueless sod.

 

[paddoboy]

Oh go take a rest before you blow a poofer valve.
:sheesh:

 

[Undefined]

Oh go take a rest before you blow a poofer valve.
:sheesh:

Go really learn/understand something properly and deeply, and stop the trollish 'me too' sillyness. You've been rumbled by all those here who are not your fellow trolls. Take a break and reconsider your internet interaction agenda, especially in the science discourse. Make your wifey proud that you CAN change your character/intellectual level for the better, not for the worse. Good luck in your self-transformation of character and intellectual integrity for the better, paddo. Sincerely. Take care.

 

[paddoboy]

Go learn something and stop the trollish sillyness. You've been rumbled by all those here who are not your fellow trolls. Take a break and reconsider your internet interaction agenda, especially in the science discourse. Make your wifey proud that you CAN change your character/intellectual level for the better, not for the worse. Good luck in your self-transformation of character and intellectual integrity for th better, paddo. Take care.

Bizzare, quite bizzare

 

[Undefined]

Bizzare, quite bizzare

You make a noise, but do not heed the bleeding obvious. Not good MO, paddo. Do/learn better.

 

[paddoboy]

You make a noise, but do not heed the bleeding obvious. Not good MO, paddo. Do/learn better.

It's noise to you, because you are anti mainstream/alternative theorist pusher and the scientific methodology and peer review just doesn't fit in with your delusional greater scheme of things.

I posted the OP to show just how mainstream science is self correcting and how the mainstream with access to giant telescopes, both on Earth and in orbit, incredible probes such as WISE, SPITZER, PLANCK etc have access to incredible information and data, and just how quick they are able to change tact/views depending on the data received.
Of course with Inflation and the other issues in the OP, the mainstream original theories, appear far more likely still.
But mainstream science being what it is, await further results of the interpretation of that data.

That's why mainstream science is always streets ahead of the anti brigade trying to discredit or make a name for themselves to boost deflated egos.

 

[Undefined]

It's noise to you, because you are anti mainstream/alternative theorist pusher and the scientific methodology and peer review just doesn't fit in with your delusional greater scheme of things.

I posted the OP to show just how mainstream science is self correcting and how the mainstream with access to giant telescopes, both on Earth and in orbit, incredible probes such as WISE, SPITZER, PLANCK etc have access to incredible information and data, and just how quick they are able to change tact/views depending on the data received.
Of course with Inflation and the other issues in the OP, the mainstream original theories, appear far more likely still.
But mainstream science being what it is, await further results of the interpretation of that data.

That's why mainstream science is always streets ahead of the anti brigade trying to discredit or make a name for themselves to boost deflated egos.

That's a chant with you now, mate. But you wouldn't understand anything of either the mainstream or the alternative views/points in discussion so far.

You have admitted and proven to be an ignoramus pretending via 'me too' pathetic sycophancy and 'cheerleading' trolls and 'believing/personalizing' all over the place in lieu of any actual relevant cogent argument/understanding from you.

So who wants to listen to more of that from you, paddo? Take the hint, mate. Do/learn better, else you are irrelevant troll.

 

[paddoboy]

So who wants to listen to more of that from you, paddo? Take the hint, mate. Do/learn better, else you are irrelevant troll.

That's OK...I'm not listening to you either. In fact I rarely listen to those with the delusions you appear to be under....
Now take the hint, listen to those far smarter then you here...drop the silly ToE claim, and come down to Earth.
All the best undefined...You'll need it and more!

 

[Undefined]

That's OK...I'm not listening to you either. In fact I rarely listen to those with the delusions you appear to be under....
Now take the hint, listen to those far smarter then you here...drop the silly ToE claim, and come down to Earth.
All the best undefined...You'll need it and more!

You are in that 'state' already mate, no need for 'projecting' onto those around you. You still don't realize what an ass you made of yourself in that other thread, do you? Oh dear, your poor wifey would be mortified if she only knew how silly ass you get on the internet.

 

[paddoboy]

That's a chant with you now, mate. But you wouldn't understand anything of either the mainstream or the alternative views/points in discussion so far.

You have admitted and proven to be an ignoramus pretending via 'me too' pathetic sycophancy and 'cheerleading' trolls and 'believing/personalizing' all over the place in lieu of any actual relevant cogent argument/understanding from you.

So who wants to listen to more of that from you, paddo? Take the hint, mate. Do/learn better, else you are irrelevant troll.

Again, I'll let our online peers be the best judge of that......
Just as your peers on the other forum made a judgement call with you.

 

[PhysBang]

Like, it is superfluous.

Sh*t, I think that inflation is superfluous for the reasons that it was introduced. But there is some evidence for it.