Straight Edge Movement/Philosophy

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Nivao

Ghost of Mirkwood
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I was wondering, can you be a part of the Straight Edge Movement without becoming a vegan?

-niv
 
The Straight Edge movement is a parent's dream.

Though it's made up of members of the punk rock/hardcore community, members are vehemently opposed to the use of drugs and alcohol.

"It's about purity," said Erica Hall of the Straight Edge movement. Hall is a 20-year-old communications major at the UW.

The Straight Edge movement began in the early 1980s in Washington, D.C., when Ian Mackaye, the lead singer of the hardcore punk band Minor Threat, began to promote the philosophy "don't drink, don't smoke, don't fuck."
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Much respect because god knows I would never take part in this.

A large sect of the Straight Edge movement is opposed to the use of animals in any way. They do not wear anything made from animal skin or use any product that contain anything obtained from animals or created through animal testing. This belief, commonly known as veganism, is not shared throughout the movement. Both Hall and Jahn consider themselves carnivores.
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I hope this answers your question.
 
hmm...

interesting, though, Davey Havok from AFI claims to be a vegan, yet wears these awful leatherish-looking pants.

definitely gonna consider "joining" SXE now that the whole vegan thing isn't manditory.

thanks ;)

-niv
 
The Straight Edge movement's a great thing, except that I adore beef and the stupid G key isn't working properly so I have to hit it about eighteen times before I actually get the letter, and- oh yeah- my mother would rather cut off my hands than let me have Xs on them. Sigh.





jAdeFI
 
So you believe in it. Do you get a membership card?

Seriously, if you don't want to have sex, or use drugs, then don't. What is the movement for, some sort of support group?

I guess I could understand if you wanted to get involved in something like that in order to meet girls, but obviously that is out.

I guess the herd instinct was left out of me.
 
It's not just you, Repo Man. I generally prefer to be off in a quiet corner by myself than with a group, but... it's something that I'd likely do anyway, and I think the movement of it is a good thing. It'd save a lot of lives, for one thing, and it's a nice thought in general.
*mutters to self about the G key and how stupid it is*





jAdeFI
 
repoman, if that's what we were joining for, we'd be there to meet guys, not girls (subtle hint that we're female).

and, by the way, i'm getting niudo to actually kind of 'join' something, so please don't screw it up.

-niv
 
And now the truth comes out.

I knew you had an angle. You always have an angle.
And now you're going to think you have a chance persuading me to do flags, aren't you? NO. I REFUSE. Now someone please divert the topic before Niv over there gets any funny ideas, would you?



jAdeFI
 
Straight edge punk is a contradiction in terms, the movement is made up of self-rightous suburbanites who lack the courage to get fucked up in the true punk tradition. Oh, they want to be healthy so you they live forever? So what could they possibly be angry about? Where's the existential discontent? Where is the self-hate? Where is the rage? Down a bottle of Old Crow and go cut yourself...that's more like it.
 
I really don't think it's about being punk, spidergoat, and I don't find AFI to be fitting of that stereotype. Don't read too deeply into Davey's wardrobe; I don't believe in SXE because it's punk. It's more about respecting yourself, isn't it? Not about living forever, but having a pure and healthy existence.
I understand what you're getting at, but you could be more gentle with your words... even wannabes (as it has been implied we are) have feelings.


jAdeFI
 
gasp

that wasn't the ORIGINAL angle! well, actually, now that i think about it... *ponders* hmmm.... what was your reason for not doing flags with me again? i remember something that seemed similar to your not joining AC... and science club... and my medieval times birthday party... or maybe that was bill...

anyway, although niudo makes an excellent point, i do understand the punk statement. now, i do get what you mean on SXE being somewhat of an oxymoron, but, we are in it for the pure satisfaction of being... good.

yeah....


-niv
 
Re: gasp

I refuse to join...
A) flags because I will injure myself or other persons who happen to be convieniently located because if you hand me a big heavy stick and instruct me to do twirly-flippy things with it, death will come of it. DEATH. I can't even spin pens, for chrissake.
B) science club because... I never refused to join science club, dangit.
C) academic club because it requires intelligence and i am devoid of such.
D) WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, MEDIEVAL TIMES AND MY ALLEGED AVERSION TO IT? I LEAP AT ANY CHANCE TO WEAR MY RENAISSANCE GARB. PLUS MEDIEVAL TIMES ROCKS.

Anyway, on the subject of the actual subject. I'm joining SXE because it's something I'd end up doing anyway, and because it's something I believe in. It isn't about it being a group, necessarily, it's more about being united for the cause of a better future. Yeah, that's pretty catchy... united for the cause of a better future. I stand triumphant on Mount Kilimanjaro, and you cannae bring me down!
Erm... goodnight, then. Yes.


Oh, and by the way, I'm Niudo. Not Nivao. I'm Niudo but some genius enabled cookies and this laptop never liked me anyway. I'm Niudo, the less than sane one, and Niv has never accompanied me to Mount Kilimanjaro. It is where I go to be alone with my several selves. *diabolic 'Identity'-is-a-great-movie laugh*
from
NIUDO

jAdeFI
 
It's more about respecting yourself, isn't it? Not about living forever, but having a pure and healthy existence.
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No, its not about respecting yourself, if it were, there would not be an organized movement, you would just eat healthy and shut up, straight edgers have to be so self-rightous about it, the purpose of the straight edgers is to call attention to yourself for being different. Drugs have been in use for thousands of years, the hallucinogens provided by the natural world do not "disrespect" your body, but provide valuable insight and innoculation against consumer culture, what do you think started alternative music in the first place? The hippies! To go through life without ever taking a trip is like being stuck in perpetual childhood.
 
spidergoat said:
No, its not about respecting yourself, if it were, there would not be an organized movement, you would just eat healthy and shut up, straight edgers have to be so self-rightous about it, the purpose of the straight edgers is to call attention to yourself for being different. Drugs have been in use for thousands of years, the hallucinogens provided by the natural world do not "disrespect" your body, but provide valuable insight and innoculation against consumer culture, what do you think started alternative music in the first place? The hippies! To go through life without ever taking a trip is like being stuck in perpetual childhood.
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Most children are innocent and loved.
Most children don't want to die.
I want to be a child again.


jAdeFI
 
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