Starting Civilization From Scratch

[wesmorris]

Well unless you can do a better job, I suggest you assist my plans. I have plans to deal with this emergency situation, and expertise in organizing everybody peacefully, smoothly, and effectively.

But your plans are stupid, and everyone agreed on it. We suggest you shut the fuck up and do as we say or suffer the consequences.

Nobody else around here seems to be able to do a better job at facilitating and organizing this situation, so I suggest I remain in charge based on my expertise.

How things "seem to you" are of no concern to us. You are an idiot. We suggest that you shut the fuck up and do as we say or suffer the consequences.

If anybody wants to run against me, we will both present our plans to the population, and have them vote on who the best person for thsi job is.

You are not qualified to run. You are an idiot. You are excluded from consideration. So sayeth the coalition of everyone who isn't you.

 

[wesmorris]

My credentials have been established.

Only in your mind. Please find 5 people on this site to corroborate your "credentials" and it might be worth considering.

I have yet to meet a challenger that can top me when it comes organizational design, social functioning, system design, facilitation, arbitration, and all the things involved in dealing with mass organization.

Yes, but you don't have a clue what is said to you and call everyone who points out the flaws in your posts as "truly idiotic" etc. You're a pathetic self-absorbed slug of a moron with nothing to offer anyone but your psychotic, megalomaniacal rants about how you are blah blah whatever shut the fuck up.

You are deluded.

I do not do it for any other reason like others have shown to want to be worshiped. I do it because I am the best, and none have come close to my prowess. Any challenger has provent to be flawed or buckled under the pressure. Meanwhile, I conduct the symphony smoothly and soundly for all to be happy and satisfied.

You pile of delusion is disgusting and kind of smelly.

Please, demonstrate your "prowess" you utter fool.

 

[wesmorris]

Lol. In reading your comments, lixdix, it's obvious you'd be beaten to death within the hour of trying to organize a damn thing. An alpha of greater stature and his mates would beat you down and take control. The "colony" would probably splinter almost immediately, if faced with a fool like yourself trying to tell them what to do.

It's funny that this is the fantasy you've been running in your head for who knows how many years, basing all your ideas on what is or isn't possible in your fantasy world, and proclaiming yourself some sort of expert in reality. RICH, that is - in delusion. Zactly all you have to offer.

 

[G. F. Schleebenhorst]

My credentials have been established.
What are you looking for?

I have yet to meet a challenger that can top me when it comes organizational design, social functioning, system design, facilitation, arbitration, and all the things involved in dealing with mass organization.

I do not do it for any other reason like others have shown to want to be worshiped. I do it because I am the best, and none have come close to my prowess. Any challenger has provent to be flawed or buckled under the pressure. Meanwhile, I conduct the symphony smoothly and soundly for all to be happy and satisfied.

Then why is your plan so completely stupid and flawed? Thousands of people would be trampled to death every day in your settlement. That's if they didn't lynch you after that initial pompous torrent of crap that came out your mouth on the first minute of the exercise.

 

[wesmorris]

Actually I'd vote to put fraggle in charge and move that we isolate lixdix such that he presents no danger to our fledgling society.

But that is far too indulgant of lixdix's silly fantasy. There would be no "society", as fraggle has made exceedingly clear.

What's funny to me is that fraggle's point about the 100,000 haveing to spread out over an area the size of texas and basically isolate, is that this isolation would breed strange habits, etc that would be a basis for xenophobia in at least some cases that our new tribes encountered each other.. and this growing difference, would become at least slightly more pronounced over time, leading to a sharp difference of values, leading to conflict, leading right back to where the 100,000 were before they left modern society... at least after a very long time.

 

[Nickelodeon]

The lunatic cave is empty, now that Spurious has escaped.

 

[Roman]

How the hell do you get 100,000 people to shut the fuck up and listen to you?

There'd probably be around 10,000, or one in every ten people, saying "hey! listen to my great idea!"

That's a lot of noise.

 

[redarmy11]

Please find 5 people on this site to corroborate your "credentials" and it might be worth considering.

This seems reasonable. Can 5 lixluke supporters please step forward - ie, make yourselves known - before we proceed.

I am the first. I have complete faith in this man. 4 more, please.

 

[spidergoat]

Come on, it's a thought experiment. Go easy on the lixluke.

 

[redarmy11]

3 more, please.

 

[lixluke]

You are not qualified to run.

Speak for yourself. All are qualified to run that are actually participating in the scenario experiment, and not proclaiming that all women are required to turn into hot lesbians or other jokes.

My plans are specifically meant to organize New Colony productively so that every head is accounted for and accomodated. While at the same time taking steps to collectively come up with ideas on how we all can work together to uphold our perfect track record of zero human on human violence. Especially against those are plotting to commit human on human violence for whatever justification they are trying to impose.

In reading your comments, lixdix, it's obvious you'd be

Imposing speculations as certainty and dictating the opinions of New Colony are ignored. I already stated that stupid people consider speculations to be equal to certainty, and that this should be avioded. This thread is not about dictating what people will or will not do. It is about describing what YOU will do.

 

[redarmy11]

I already stated that stupid people consider speculations to be equal to certainty, and that this should be avioded.

That's pure speculation.

 

[lixluke]

That's pure speculation.

No it is not. Speculations are statements of probability. Such as those that use "will" and "would" likely/unlikely.
Speculation is about "probably". It is not about definitely.

Stupid people such as wesmoron use speculations as "definitely".
Doing so is a violation of the rules of logic.

 

[redarmy11]

It was a statement of probability. It was an assumption presented as a fact.

You've violated your own rules.

 

[lixluke]

It was a statement of probability. It was an assumption presented as a fact.

WRONG


A presumptuous statement in which jackasses such as wesmoron makes all the time. I will weed them out whenever he makes one as he does so often.

A persumptuous statement cannot be debated. It is a product of circular reasoning. It is about how people "would" so this and that as if imposing and dictating actions upon them. Presumptuous people speak in presumptions. They write in presumptions. That is because they think in presumptions. They do not think in logic.


WITNESS:

this isolation would breed strange habits, etc that would be a basis for xenophobia in at least some cases that our new tribes encountered each other.. and this growing difference, would become. . . bla bla bla.

Someone would would be. . . bla bla bla, and probably a good handful would. . . bla bla bla.

A taste of reality for you then.
People aren't going to. . . bla bla bla.

No one would "decide" to. . . bla bla bla

This is the sign of illogical brainwashed box thinking. Imposing any presumptuous projection upon others to continue their shackles. Unfortunately when thoughts are shackled to presumption, there is no access to actual logic.

 

[wesmorris]

Funny, here's a hypothetical situation that can only be speculated upon, but don't speculate, but I'm going to. Fraggle nailed it, anything else is just trying to pry lixdix's ridiculously bloated self-image from his compensatory ego.

 

[wesmorris]

Come on, it's a thought experiment. Go easy on the lixluke.

No.

The idiot speaks:

"This is the sign of illogical brainwashed box thinking. Imposing any presumptuous projection upon others to continue their shackles. Unfortunately when thoughts are shackled to presumption, there is no access to actual logic."

In all violation of anything reasonable and decent, so fuck him. He is the farthest from "actual logic" that I could possibly imagine.

Again, Fraggle nailed it and there's not much else to be done besides as I specified before.

 

[spidergoat]

Presumptuous projections do tend to continue shackles of logical access from the brainbox, especially when perception proves illogical.

 

[Dr Lou Natic]

Spidergoat you're skating on thin ice in this new world, defending the lowest moron is a good way to make sure you're the second one to die.
It's really a critical mistake to make, and I think we're all a little disappointed with your decision making skills, but also kind of hungry so...

That's the thing with eating lixluke, you're hungry again in like 20 minutes.

 

[lixluke]

Funny, here's a hypothetical situation that can only be speculated upon, but don't speculate.

Only a moron such as yourself would consider not equating speculation to certainty to mean don't speculate.

Another clear example of how utterly dumb you are. Low evolved individuals do not interpret reality according to reality. They interpret reality according to their weak brain projections of what they want reality to be. Instead of reading something as it actually is, you read it as how you want it to be.

Another characteristic of primitive people is equating human on human violence as natural human characteristic. Primitives consider violence as an aspect of human nature because it is an aspect of their own primitive nature. Higher evolutionary humans consider violence not an aspect of human nature, but an unnatural phenomenon of disfunctional behavior. All primitives can cry about is how various humans for thousands of years have committed violent acts, and boo hoo. Get real.