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It appears you have a problem with English, as well as maths, as rpenner has pointed out......

You will need to get the approval of rpenner to represent his opinion.

Since, you already confessed you don't know anything, you are clueless, prove you have rpenner's personal opinion when you post.

Otherwise, move along since you would be nothing more than a troll.
 
According to SR, mass cannot move at the speed of light. The $24,000 question is why is there a wall at that particular speed? I am not questioning the velocity of this wall, but rather I am asking why is there a wall in the first place?

One way to answer this question, is to first look at mass with respect to gravity/GR. The properties of mass and matter, subject to gravity, is not fully defined by GR, since GR does not take into account phases changes of matter due to the induced pressure. GR fixates of space-time but not all observed details that are connected to mass, that happen concurrently. Something important is left out, with the excluded offering a way to address the question at hand.

If we start with a cloud of matter/mass, acted upon by gravity, space-time will contract as mass density increases. GR does a good job here. What also happens is the increasing mass density (of the material substance) will lead to higher and higher pressures, causing phases changes within the matter, as the interaction of forces change due to gravitational pressure.

With respect to space, the higher mass density is contracting physical distance between the matter, while space-time contraction is contracting space within space-time. These follow the same general direction. Time does the opposite. The higher mass density causes matter to interact at higher energy and higher frequencies, thereby speeding up time with respect to matter. Gamma based interactions in the core of a star uses the fastest time scales. Space-time does the opposite with time slowing down within space-time as mass density increases. One should notice there are two time attributes, generated by mass/gravity with each going in the opposite direction; mass times speeds up and space-time shows a slower time.

Although space goes in the same direction for space-time and mass/pressure/phases, time goes in the opposite direction. Say these two opposing time directions were to cancel, since one speeds up , as the the other slows down, the net effect is zeroed time in space-time. With SR we add energy and form what Einstein called relativistic mass which appears to have the same time canceling effect on local space-time. The net result is all one will have is space, at the speed of light, but without net time to change mass velocity.

In case of GR/gravity/mass pressure, there is an internal countering time clock, where the local space-time reference does not see mass behaving by the rules of space-time but rather it goes by rules defined by mass pressure. These two times, both generated by mass, cancel in a black hole. The time remains zero, until it loses some pressure to add net time. An expansion will be endothermic, causing no core energy to escape. This added energy at lower pressure adds pressure but this hits the wall of no time.
 
For the sake of young ones and newbies.
Chinglu claims against all evidence over 100 years that SR is false. He contradicts all the experts, and refutes all those that show he is wrong. He will argue the toss repeatedly and never recede from his claim that SR is false.
He has had most of his material moved to pseudoscience and alternative hypothesis sections.
He has been banned here more then once for his continued unsupported claims.
He has been totally banned elsewhere including "Cosmoquest" [never to be allowed to post again] for the same sort of nonsensical claims.
He will continue to ask for proof [when proof is not the goal in scientific theories] while supplying nothing himself.

Take care in accepting ANYTHING he says.

I am conducting science.

Get involved and answer for RPenner.

If you are not able to do that, then you do not operate according to science. You do as you are told.
 
OK, prove with a thought experiment that ROS is valid with 2 observers each in different frames. Make a commitment and I will prove to you why you are wrong.

I am not interested in your vague posts.

Oh, here is one. prove ROS with C' and M being co-located. That is rpenner's contention. Prove it. I am waiting on rpenner to prove which I hope he attempts.

I will demonstrate he is wrong.

If you cannot accept this challenge, then you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about and the reader's will laugh at you.
first,
what ever you need to tell yourself.

second.
rpenner is one of the greatest mathematics individual i have seen in a long time.
you are no where near qualified to even challenge him in my irrelevant opinion.

and then you spew about meaningless post ?
unbelievable.
even mainstream is laughing at you.
what do you even know(i won't even mention " understand") about theorems ?
 
first,
what ever you need to tell yourself.

second.
rpenner is one of the greatest mathematics individual i have seen in a long time.
you are no where near qualified to even challenge him in my irrelevant opinion.

and then you spew about meaningless post ?
unbelievable.
even mainstream is laughing at you.
what do you even know(i won't even mention " understand") about theorems ?

Prove his math if you believe his post.
 
Fine if C' and M being co-located is too vague, that means we can never know such things which makes SR useless. Just a point rpenner does not dispute the co-location event.

Now, prove the example from Penrose shows ROS from one event.

chinglu what you like to say here and what you like to claim here, and the silly little insults you like to throw around here, is fooling no one here, other than your own delusions.
Are you a Creationist, or another form of God botherer?

SR and GR stands strong and supported by all of mainstream science and even outside of mainstream science.
You are not affecting in anyway, the great scientific feat that SR and GR have become.
You are obviously isolated with your opinions but you are entitled to them.
Just a crying shame, that they obviously will die with you, when you go to the grave, or when you get tired of posting your nonsense.
 
Prove his math if you believe his post.
again,

and then you spew about meaningless post ?
unbelievable.
even mainstream is laughing at you.
what do you even know(i won't even mention " understand") about theorems ?
 
chinglu what you like to say here and what you like to claim here, and the silly little insults you like to throw around here, is fooling no one here, other than your own delusions.
Are you a Creationist, or another form of God botherer?

SR and GR stands strong and supported by all of mainstream science and even outside of mainstream science.
You are not affecting in anyway, the great scientific feat that SR and GR have become.
You are obviously isolated with your opinions but you are entitled to them.
Just a crying shame, that they obviously will die with you, when you go to the grave, or when you get tired of posting your nonsense.

it's as simple as,
writing an white paper, finding a sponsor, then submitting it.
ask why are they not doing this,
but instead, spewing on a forum.
 
it's as simple as,
writing an white paper, finding a sponsor, then submitting it.
ask why are they not doing this,
but instead, spewing on a forum.

Such people also claim intrangengencies, conspiracies and collusions with and in all of mainstream science and society in general.
It's really a wonder that they are brave enough to get out of bed each morning. :)
 
again,

and then you spew about meaningless post ?
unbelievable.
even mainstream is laughing at you.
what do you even know(i won't even mention " understand") about theorems ?

OK, so you do not know what you are talking about.
 
OK, so you do not know what you are talking about.

nice diversions.

it's as simple as,
writing an white paper, finding a sponsor, then submitting it.
ask yourself, why are you not doing this,
but instead, spewing on a forum.
 
nice diversions.

it's as simple as,
writing an white paper, finding a sponsor, then submitting it.
ask yourself, why are you not doing this,
but instead, spewing on a forum.

First off, I do not need a sponsor.

So, I will take my actions as I do.

Now, rpenner must respond that is where we are. Can you refute anything presented?

If not, why are you posting?
 
First off, I do not need a sponsor.
actually , you do.
amusing.

So, I will take my actions as I do.
which is pointless and meaningless unless it's submitted,
other wise you are just spewing.
it's that simple.

Can you refute anything presented?
actually yes,
that also is very simple, and massively obvious to see,
you graphed improperly,
which lead to what rpenner stated,
" you improperly confuse lines j and k and therefore confuse events Q and R. "
it was very important to listen when rpenner started with this statement,
" In addition to writing lines as y=mx+b "

If not, why are you posting?
because of your relativity denying, when in fact you do not even understand it(which is massively typical).
 
With all this noise above you did not prove the following which is the task at hand. This was in your post before.



Now prove this and then we can move on.

Are you going to prove your assertion or continue the distractions. I am prepared to move on once we get your statement out of the way. After all, it is your statement.

We are playing chess and you have already been checkmated. I wonder if you know it and this is why you continue to get off task with distractions.

Again, this is your statement and it is up to you to prove it.

Yes, yes, this is so obvious that your great genius is putting all to shame.
It is quite obvious that rpenner is running scared.
It's just as obvious that you have won this game, the same as you won your other game in pseudo, or was it Alternative theories, even though you were banned for it, and just as obvious in the other forums such as Cosmoquest in which they unjustly gave you a life ban.
It's also quite obvious that you do not adhere to the scientific method and/or peer review, due to the conspiracy in revealing the knowledge you wish to pass on to the world, but which the world is rejecting.
Yep, chinglu, another feather in your cap of achievements!

:TIC MODE ON OF COURSE: :)
 
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