One of the best superhero/comic movies yet.
"Spider-Man 3"
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One of the best superhero/comic movies yet.
It was good but not great...I was bit weird to portray a guy wearing a bat suit and swinging around a real city...
Yeah, I agree. They f**ked up this movie, big time.
In my opinion, they should've left Harry Osbourne alone. Why kill the guy? I loved him as a bad guy who wanted to avenge his father's death. Stupid stupid.
And Venom was defeated so easily? Give me a break. I would've loved to have seen Spiderman get pummelled a few times (in clear losses to Venom), before finally overcoming Venom in a historic fight.
And Sandman? Well...cool character. Too bad they portrayed him as a big pussy.
Too many characters, not enough character development. Just like X-Men 3.
In my opinion, they should've left Harry Osbourne alone. Why kill the guy? I loved him as a bad guy who wanted to avenge his father's death. Stupid stupid.
And Venom was defeated so easily? Give me a break. I would've loved to have seen Spiderman get pummelled a few times (in clear losses to Venom), before finally overcoming Venom in a historic fight.
And Sandman? Well...cool character. Too bad they portrayed him as a big pussy.
Too many characters, not enough character development. Just like X-Men 3.
Absolutely - with 2 1/2 hours, you'd think there would be some decent character development.
It was a pathetically bad movie on all fronts.
The story was not believable.
The dialogue was contrived.
The characters were underdeveloped.
The action sequences were simply not believable. (taking chunks out of the brick building with Osbourne's head???)
I haven't bought Peter's "relationship" with Mary Jane since the first one. (what do they even like about each other?)
This was the worst movie I have seen in a long time.
The story was not believable.
The dialogue was contrived.
The characters were underdeveloped.
The action sequences were simply not believable. (taking chunks out of the brick building with Osbourne's head???)
I haven't bought Peter's "relationship" with Mary Jane since the first one. (what do they even like about each other?)
This was the worst movie I have seen in a long time.
Oh boy............Spider-Man 3.
((Do not read if you have not seen the movie, everyone must judge it for themselves))
-With great power....oh who cares its not my fault anymore?-
Something I noticed from the previews, and seeing it again in the movie, was how Uncle Ben was killed. Spider-Man's motto, the motto passed down to him from his Uncle Ben, is "With great power.....comes great responsibility". Now I'm sure we all remember why he became Spider-Man in Movie 1. He let the thief run right by him, and in the process, the same man killed his Uncle. This is what teaches him the importance of the motto, and why people with gifts must use them for good. Oh but wait!.....now we find out that it wasn't really that guy who killed Uncle Ben anyway? Doesn't that seem to contradict the reason he became Spider-Man? I hated that. It didn't make any sense.
-Lets see how much we can shove into 2.5 hours and call it a day-
Its easy to understand that they had to put so much in one movie, much of the movie itself was overwhelming. However, it seems as though they would have done better making two movies within a close range of release dates. This would be similar to how the Matrix trilogy was ended.
-Villain(s)?-
The new green goblin, venom, and the sand man. Harry seems to just be retarded, how many times must someone say "I didn't kill your father" before they understand. And suddenly this butler, Bernard, knows what's going on the entire time? The Sandman gets some sappy "I forgive you" speech from Spidey at the end, and he simply turns into dust and flies off to rob another bank for his sick daughter, bravo spidey. Harry dies, and then Venom does? Okay so who cares if Harry's dead, big deal. But Venom? What the fuck? Venom, a long time rival of Spider-Man, dies this quickly. Well shit at this rate Spider-Man is going to kill every villain in the marvel universe within the next few years, everyone give three cheers for peace on earth.
-Mary Jane, what's hot, she's not?-
In the second movie she had her face up all over the place, she was popular, well loved, she even LOOKED better in the second movie. She's much more homely in this movie, more dressed down. She did nothing but complain at Peter for his fame and her failure. Its understood that stars rise and fall, sometimes rapidly, but it just didn't seem necessary to make her such a black hole in this movie. And the singing, I mean good God.
-Black Spider-Man Costume, the musical-
Maybe in the comics parker under the symbiote's influence was still somewhat goofy, but in the 90's cartoon he sure didn't seem to be. Also, the previews lead you to believe that he's going to turn evil, not become competition for John Travolta's talents in Saturday Night Fever. And since when can Parker play the piano? Also, the black costume was suppose to morph into whatever shape he wished, it would become a suit, or street clothes, or the spider-man costume. What happened to that? why was it only black goo on one of his normal costumes?
-All talk no terror-
Most of the movie was dialogue, and that's fine for some movies. But Spider-Man takes a viewer on a rollercoaster of thrills, adventure, blah blah blah. People......people were crying at the end of this movie......CRYING. It was just one depressing scene after another. The entire feeling provoked by this movie was far different than the other two. We didn't get any real action, excitement, and not ONCE did he use his spider-sense, what the hell is up with that? The train scene from movie 2? Awesome. The fight with Flash in Movie 1? Bad ass. This time we got parker staring at the floor while his mentally challenged friend was being worked on by Doctor's, how invigorating!
So in conclusion, honestly, despite my ranting, I did enjoy the movie. I'm a huge fan of Spider-Man, he's always been my favorite super hero. But this movie's tone is far different than the other two. Every few moments someone is dead or sad. Its just not up to the standard the other two set.
((Do not read if you have not seen the movie, everyone must judge it for themselves))
-With great power....oh who cares its not my fault anymore?-
Something I noticed from the previews, and seeing it again in the movie, was how Uncle Ben was killed. Spider-Man's motto, the motto passed down to him from his Uncle Ben, is "With great power.....comes great responsibility". Now I'm sure we all remember why he became Spider-Man in Movie 1. He let the thief run right by him, and in the process, the same man killed his Uncle. This is what teaches him the importance of the motto, and why people with gifts must use them for good. Oh but wait!.....now we find out that it wasn't really that guy who killed Uncle Ben anyway? Doesn't that seem to contradict the reason he became Spider-Man? I hated that. It didn't make any sense.
-Lets see how much we can shove into 2.5 hours and call it a day-
Its easy to understand that they had to put so much in one movie, much of the movie itself was overwhelming. However, it seems as though they would have done better making two movies within a close range of release dates. This would be similar to how the Matrix trilogy was ended.
-Villain(s)?-
The new green goblin, venom, and the sand man. Harry seems to just be retarded, how many times must someone say "I didn't kill your father" before they understand. And suddenly this butler, Bernard, knows what's going on the entire time? The Sandman gets some sappy "I forgive you" speech from Spidey at the end, and he simply turns into dust and flies off to rob another bank for his sick daughter, bravo spidey. Harry dies, and then Venom does? Okay so who cares if Harry's dead, big deal. But Venom? What the fuck? Venom, a long time rival of Spider-Man, dies this quickly. Well shit at this rate Spider-Man is going to kill every villain in the marvel universe within the next few years, everyone give three cheers for peace on earth.
-Mary Jane, what's hot, she's not?-
In the second movie she had her face up all over the place, she was popular, well loved, she even LOOKED better in the second movie. She's much more homely in this movie, more dressed down. She did nothing but complain at Peter for his fame and her failure. Its understood that stars rise and fall, sometimes rapidly, but it just didn't seem necessary to make her such a black hole in this movie. And the singing, I mean good God.
-Black Spider-Man Costume, the musical-
Maybe in the comics parker under the symbiote's influence was still somewhat goofy, but in the 90's cartoon he sure didn't seem to be. Also, the previews lead you to believe that he's going to turn evil, not become competition for John Travolta's talents in Saturday Night Fever. And since when can Parker play the piano? Also, the black costume was suppose to morph into whatever shape he wished, it would become a suit, or street clothes, or the spider-man costume. What happened to that? why was it only black goo on one of his normal costumes?
-All talk no terror-
Most of the movie was dialogue, and that's fine for some movies. But Spider-Man takes a viewer on a rollercoaster of thrills, adventure, blah blah blah. People......people were crying at the end of this movie......CRYING. It was just one depressing scene after another. The entire feeling provoked by this movie was far different than the other two. We didn't get any real action, excitement, and not ONCE did he use his spider-sense, what the hell is up with that? The train scene from movie 2? Awesome. The fight with Flash in Movie 1? Bad ass. This time we got parker staring at the floor while his mentally challenged friend was being worked on by Doctor's, how invigorating!
So in conclusion, honestly, despite my ranting, I did enjoy the movie. I'm a huge fan of Spider-Man, he's always been my favorite super hero. But this movie's tone is far different than the other two. Every few moments someone is dead or sad. Its just not up to the standard the other two set.
I don't understand how you could like it if what you said above is what you really thought of it.
I concur...too much in as much time...it did a better job that X 3 but not by a whole lot.
Oddly enough, I gotta agree with darksidZz here.
As an original fan of the books, the flick was pretty decent.
I'm not sure what it is the po'd people (perhaps cartoon series fans??) here are so upset with.
I'm not pissed off, and I just barely remember the comics (I haven't read a Soiderman comic since the late 70's/early 80's).
I am not comparung to any Spidey this or Spidey than and upset about it's authenticity or any thing else.
I just think the movie sucked.
I am not comparung to any Spidey this or Spidey than and upset about it's authenticity or any thing else.
I just think the movie sucked.
As I said, Spider-Man has always been my favorite super hero. So while I didn't like many parts of it, its still a Spider-Man movie. And in my opinion, the worst parts of it still makes it awesome in comparison to some of the other crap I've seen in some other marvel movies. But that's just me.
Good :L you see, I'm normal
Now listen to me... Venom wasn't able to appear in the 2nd movie because to introduce him on MJ's fiance would've been a disaster to the ongoing storyline, so instead they opted to make him arrive in a meteroite, which in theory is fine since he was mined out of an asteroid anyway.MJ is still young, she's learning what being with spiderman is going to entail, she won't get all the attention she wants, and the loss of it from her theatrical career is what puts a strain on their relationship, it's reasonable. That's when she realized who Peter really is, not 2 seperate people but 1 in the same.
Mj wasn't dressed sexy and stuff because she was to focused on other stuff to worry about her looks
The changing around of the killer of Ben was of little importance, what it did do was setup the possibility of Peter going nuts cuz he accidently killed the wrong fellow.. it also lets Venom come into the picture by attaching to peter... So yea that's a great idea... sandman was funny to me, he was a dope and not very bright, why didn't he just go into a vault, then leave when nobody was around?
Anyways... sandman is stupid, as usual
Venom wasn't weak, he almost killed everybody but Peter got lucky, that's what it comes down to, luck.
As for Harry, well... the butler was around all the damn time, why wouldn't he know his father was killed that way? Now there are a few things to ask... even though his fathers glider killed him why does it immediately mean Spidey did not? Also why would the butler clean his wounds, why not call the hospital.. besides that wasn't his father dead already?
So yea... confusing things but reasonable...
I was somewhat annoyed, MJ thought she would break things off with Peter to save him, wtf? She knew he was spidey, he's stronger than Harry!
spidermna 3 was so crappy that i will not merit it more than 1 lines worth of insults.
peace.
peace.
It wasn't as unwatcheable as you lot seem to think. What I disliked most was the death of Venom and Harry Osborne.
They killed off Doctor Octopus in the previous Spiderman film, and Norman Osborne in the first;
Scarecrow & Ra's al Gul in Batman Begins;
Joker, Penguin and Two-Face in the earlier Batman movies;
Toad, Sabretooth, Spike, Psylocke, Callista, Phoenix and all those others in the X-Men films...
Why do superheros on the big screen inevitably eliminate most of their principle foes? Characters who should last as long as the heroes do?
They killed off Doctor Octopus in the previous Spiderman film, and Norman Osborne in the first;
Scarecrow & Ra's al Gul in Batman Begins;
Joker, Penguin and Two-Face in the earlier Batman movies;
Toad, Sabretooth, Spike, Psylocke, Callista, Phoenix and all those others in the X-Men films...
Why do superheros on the big screen inevitably eliminate most of their principle foes? Characters who should last as long as the heroes do?
That would have been better, yes. I stayed in the auditorium until the end of the credits, hoping there would be a coda sequence - in which some scrap of the Venom symbiote had survived and found a new host
. Alas, t'was not to be...Silver screen supervillians are necessarily mortal because the movies won't be as continuous as a cartoon series.
Besides, Batman hasn't killed off everyone yet (Toyman would make for an excellent special effects Batman movie)...F4 left Doom locked in his own metallic body...Magneto is still alive...Apocalypse hasn't been played yet...there's a new Superman...JLA or members thereof are due, possibilities abound.
Besides, Batman hasn't killed off everyone yet (Toyman would make for an excellent special effects Batman movie)...F4 left Doom locked in his own metallic body...Magneto is still alive...Apocalypse hasn't been played yet...there's a new Superman...JLA or members thereof are due, possibilities abound.