Should we care about the life of an ant?

The fact that you wouldnt want to be crushed to death might make you at least think that an ant might not want to be crushed to death
 
Orleander said:
If they have a huge home that I can see in our lawn, they are dead. If they are in the driveway or sidewalk, I don't care.
Did you just get done watching A Bugs Life or Ant Bully? :confused:
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You didn't answer the question, and no :p
 
Thrix said:
On whose authority do we have a "moral obligation" to life in general? Exactly what makes it wrong to kill ants?
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Authority ? Who needs authority for morality ? Are you saying you need morality to be enforced on you ? That's sad.
What makes it wrong to kill a human ?
 
Enmos said:
You didn't answer the question, and no :p
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Oh, no I didn't did I. If they were doing it in the yard, I wouldn't care. (Unless their dad was helping them because he has an unnatural addiction to fire :mad: ) If they were doing it in the driveway or sidewalk I'd tell them to leave them alone.

We had ants living in our garden. I let them be. I figured they weren't hurting anything. But they are NOT making big ol mounds in my yard!
 
maxg said:
Agree with you there. Hence I don't owe any moral obligation to lions.
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Wrong, you do owe moral obligation to the lions because you are able to. A lion is not.

maxg said:
In the first case, I'd say you were stupid and possibly deranged but I wouldn't say your actions were inherently immoral if the person was not otherwise harming other people. In the 2nd, again I'd say the action is immoral only if it can be shown to negatively impact other human beings (which wouldn't be hard to demonstrate).
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I'm truly appalled at your answers here..
You actually say it's alright to wipe out every last animal on the planet as long as it hasn't got any negative impact on humans.. !? :eek:

maxg said:
If it wasn't my kid I'd leave him alone. If it was my daughter I would try to find out why she was doing it (was she feeling ineffective, unable to control her life, etc?) and address the problem. In neither case would my concern be about the aunts.
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Kids just do it for fun as they haven't fully developed their understanding of right and wrong yet. So, would you explain to your daughter why she shouldn't kill the ants ? And if so, how is that not a moral lesson ?

maxg said:
Do you want to ask some more questions so I can continue to give you the same answer?
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So you don't have any better answers ? :rolleyes:
 
Orleander said:
Oh, no I didn't did I. If they were doing it in the yard, I wouldn't care. (Unless their dad was helping them because he has an unnatural addiction to fire :mad: ) If they were doing it in the driveway or sidewalk I'd tell them to leave them alone.

We had ants living in our garden. I let them be. I figured they weren't hurting anything. But they are NOT making big ol mounds in my yard!
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So if your kid was torturing ants in the driveway you would tell them to leave them alone. Why ?
 
Enmos said:
So if your kid was torturing ants in the driveway you would tell them to leave them alone. Why ?
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you didn't ask about torturing, :confused: you asked about killing.
I don't allow my kids to torture anything. The kids uncle took fireflies and drug them down the kid's faces so they glowed. I was horrified. If you kill it fine, but don't draw it out.
 
shichimenshyo said:
So she could laugh manically as she runs them over in her car :D
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HEY!!! I only did that once! And I was drunk. and naked. And they were pointing all their legs at me. and they said my butt looked big.
Well of course it did! Everything looks big to an ant!!
 
Orleander said:
you didn't ask about torturing, :confused: you asked about killing.
I don't allow my kids to torture anything. The kids uncle took fireflies and drug them down the kid's faces so they glowed. I was horrified. If you kill it fine, but don't draw it out.
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Do you think they feel all comfy when they are being killed ?
Anyway, change torturing to killing then :)
 
Orleander said:
HEY!!! I only did that once! And I was drunk. and naked. And they were pointing all their legs at me. and they said my butt looked big.
Well of course it did! Everything looks big to an ant!!
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Well, they were right though... it IS big and kind of.. well square.. :roflmao:
 
Orleander said:
you didn't ask about torturing, :confused: you asked about killing.
I don't allow my kids to torture anything. The kids uncle took fireflies and drug them down the kid's faces so they glowed. I was horrified. If you kill it fine, but don't draw it out.
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ahhh as long as it doesnt suffer its okay to kill animals, ok well the next time I see a cat on my balcony I wont hesitate to stomp on its head, after all I dont want my potted plants to smell like cat piss.
 
Enmos said:
lol right :p
So please answer why you would tell your kid to leave the ants alone if he/she was killing them in the driveway for fun.
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because it serves no purpose. The ants aren't hurting the cement. The kids aren't going to eat them. If we killed EVERY ant, maybe we'd be staving the frogs to death. If all the frogs died, then the herons and fish might starve. etc etc

But again, I'm not about to care about the life of an ant.
 
Orleander said:
because it serves no purpose. The ants aren't hurting the cement. The kids aren't going to eat them. If we killed EVERY ant, maybe we'd be staving the frogs to death. If all the frogs died, then the herons and fish might starve. etc etc

But again, I'm not about to care about the life of an ant.
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So do shouldn't do it only because it serves no purpose ? Why should that stop them ?
 
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