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Baron Max said:
Most of the problem comes when society gives its citizens more and more individual freedoms, which in turn gives criminals more and more freedom to commit crimes ....the two go hand-in-hand.

A harsh, iron-fisted dictatorship gives little or not freedoms to its people, and thus enjoys very little crime. It's a control factor, if you will, a control of the people of the society ....the less control you have over citizens, the less control you have over the citizens who would do crime. Simple, huh?

Baron Max

Show the evidence for your statement.
 
Black folks crime and unemployment rates have constantly grown from the time they were set free from slavery.
 
Baron Max said:
Most of the problem comes when society gives its citizens more and more individual freedoms, which in turn gives criminals more and more freedom to commit crimes ....the two go hand-in-hand.

A harsh, iron-fisted dictatorship gives little or not freedoms to its people, and thus enjoys very little crime. It's a control factor, if you will, a control of the people of the society ....the less control you have over citizens, the less control you have over the citizens who would do crime. Simple, huh?

Baron Max

Who's to suggest that a government actually wants to see more and more freedom? each step to greater freedom is a step further from the governments need to exist, to them such events are a blessing as they tighten their controls and regain their power. Who's to say that most of the nutjobs that pull these stunts haven't been groomed like some sort of espionage plant, until one day they snap to force particular laws against a persons rights?
 
Stryder said:
Who's to suggest that a government actually wants to see more and more freedom? each step to greater freedom is a step further from the governments need to exist, ...

Oh, really? Just think about it some, okay ....if we were to remove all laws and rules and police and courts, just what do you think would happen to the human race? Please think about it just for a minute or two, okay?

Baron Max
 
J.B said:
Be honest about about "this problem".

Yep! Until we admit the problem, no solution will ever be found. We have great capacity to make excuses, giving silly, illogical reasons, that we overwhelm any ideas for a proper solution.

Baron Max
 
That's like saying I have problems with my teenage daughter ever since I let her out of the closet where we kept her for a decade. Of course there are going to be problems, slavery was one the biggest crimes on the planet.
 
spidergoat said:
That's like saying I have problems with my teenage daughter ever since I let her out of the closet where we kept her for a decade.

Well, that's just fine, Spider ....so now you want to release her out into an unsuspecting society and force THEM to take care of your fuckin' problem? You wash your hands of her, then let her out to do harm to your own fuckin' society and then you yell for help? Huh? What the fuck kind of person are you that you would do that to your own society? Put the bitch back in the fuckin' closet if you have to, but don't burden your fellows with your problems!

spidergoat said:
Of course there are going to be problems, slavery was one the biggest crimes on the planet.

So more crime will make up for the old crimes? Two wrongs make a right? And society should accept whatever horrors it has coming to it due to the actions of earlier generations? ...just sit back and grin and bear it? ...do nothing while the social orders collapse around their heads?

Baron Max
 
It's an anology, Max. The dominant society enslaved blacks, and followed it up with decades of prejudice rather than an understanding of their humanity. One shouldn't wonder why there have been problems.

I'm not sure what crime you are referring to here, or what wrong, perhaps affirmative action? That is one way we can do something. Not every preference is discrimination. Would you hire an old woman with saggy pendulous bosoms to work at Hooters? ...or some fat crossdresser?
 
J.B said:
Black folks crime and unemployment rates have constantly grown from the time they were set free from slavery.
Not surprising. They had no opportunities, they were all psychologically screwed up from slavery, they suffered racism, they ahd no real job experience... and the list go on and on... How is that being "free" is beyond me... :rolleyes:
 
Baron Max said:
Oh, really? Just think about it some, okay ....if we were to remove all laws and rules and police and courts, just what do you think would happen to the human race? Please think about it just for a minute or two, okay?

Baron Max

You are jumping to a conclusion, I'm not suggesting there shouldn't be boundaries, its just how closely they are drawn to your perimeter. Do you want to make a decision for yourself or have the state make a decision for you?
 
The blacks that are decendents from slaves are the blacks who have by far the greatest quality of life of any blacks anywhere else in the world.

Blacks who live amungst whites, live better then blacks who live amungst blacks.
 
From the link...

"A large part is standard of living, the amount of money and access to goods and services that a person has; these numbers are fairly easily measured. Others like freedom, happiness, art, environmental health, and innovation are far harder to measure and could be more important. This has created an inevitable imbalance as programs and policies are created to fit the easily available economic numbers while ignoring the other measures, that are very difficult to plan for or assess."

That proves my point... :p


Cheers :m:
 
My point is that you are wrong! :D

You have no evidence for this:

J.B said:
The blacks that are decendents from slaves are the blacks who have by far the greatest quality of life of any blacks anywhere else in the world.

Blacks who live amungst whites, live better then blacks who live amungst blacks.
 
J.B said:
Then just name one place where black Africans live better?

Are they called black everywhere?

And why are they African? Are they not American?
 
samcdkey said:
Are they called black everywhere?

And why are they African? Are they not American?

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