Self-defense illegal in some cases?

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A novel I read led to this question. In the book, the US Delta Force, an "elite counter-terrorism" force, kills innocent American civilians so they won't release a secret that would greatly adversely impact the federal government. The book--granted it's fiction--says that the Delta Force can conduct such kills legally.

As a made-up example, suppose the US government covers up knowledge of extraterrestrials because they believe it would lead to widespread panic or implode the economy or whatever. Then, according to this book, the Delta Force could take out a few civilians who accidentally met the ETs and could not be trusted to keep it a secret. It's just an example! (But it is true that "terrorism" is a broad brush these days.)

The question is, if the Delta Force was gunning for an innocent civilian, let's make it a US citizen, do you think it should be illegal for the target to fight back? Wouldn't it be like resisting arrest, except it's resisting a legal kill? Then if the civilian won the battle, they could be imprisoned for resisting their death and perhaps additionally charged for murder or attempted murder of a Delta Force member.
 
i had to find a spare half minute for this.

protecting yourself, protecting SOMEONE else - a loved one or otherwise OR protecting your property from an attacked/thief is not a punishable offence.

in my book anyway, alright, i wouldnt try for an execution because a thief had stole a stick of gum from me, but if i found some bastard in my house in the middle of the night, and i have my family under that roof, i believe i have every right to defend my self, my family and my property.

thieves get what they have coming to them, and how is a corpse going to tell the cops i was a bit harsh and heavy.

the thief should never be there.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/norfolk/3153172.stm

tony martin should have been awarded a medal.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/nottinghamshire/4733478.stm

whilst i was searching this, i happened across the following evil bastard

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/humber/4154291.stm

maybe someone could earn a medal by doing this subserviant piece of rancid rat sputum in.
 
Oh dear. Such self righteousness. You chose a truly apt name. I can smell the stench from here.
 
The question is, Quagmire, do you have every right to defend yourself against a Delta Force member when they come to kill you legally?
 
self defence is no offence.

harming someone so you can escape arrest isnt self defence though.
 
how well lit was it? how good is his aim? how steady are his hands? how good was his eyesight? what were the thieves wearing? HOW MANY TIMES HAD THE FARMER BEEN BURGLED BEFORE? WAS HE WAITING UP EVERYNIGHT WAITING TO BE BURGLED? DID HE GET A LOT OF SLEEP? WHAT WERE THE EFFECTS OF THE MULTIPLE BURGLARIES ON HIS HEALTH - MENTAL AND PHYSICAL?

did he just pull the trigger or did he see the thief and then fire? was the thief a known offender? how many previous crimes had he commit and been caught and prosecuted for? how many crimes had he got away with?

Its just a shame he didnt pop the other thief.

If he didnt want to face the possibility of being hurt - he shouldnt have been there or anywhere trying to steal.

On this occasion he ran the gauntlet and payed the ultimate price. no one made him.

On a related note, was it the teachers fault for having a nice house and no gun that this happened?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4808152.stm

the dead man was 'stupid' for not knowing the burglar would attack with a knife then.

maybe thats what the farmer with the gun believed.
 
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