Do me a favor . It is annoying to me, you using the word COMRADE You don't know what is meant and were was it used so please learn then si if it is applicable in your discussion
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Do me a favor . It is annoying to me, you using the word COMRADE You don't know what is meant and were was it used so please learn then si if it is applicable in your discussion
Hey, let's be honest comrade. The word is appropriate.
So Macron won, is this where the rightwing nationalist tide breaks?
Let's hope so. I think maybe The Thrumper scared them off.
Camarade was a German nazi call for a party member during the ww11
Macron will face the same problems as Trump is facing. Macron is also a government outsider, who does not have a political party apparatus set up around him, with him being the chosen one, like Hillary was. The French election ended up with two outsiders who ran against the establishment candidates, with neither of these two newbies, having a working establishment machine, in place. Macron won the mandate of the people but not the leaders who will protect their cliques from the outsiders.
Macron may decide to look to Trump, to see how he is dealing with this, since he is also an outsider. They are both businessmen and have more in common than they do with career politicians, who are more about words instead of actions; excuses for foot dragging instead of instituting changes. Politicians fear change since it can be used by enemy propaganda and fake news to undermine their reelection. Businessmen are risk takers and learn to take the heat by looking longer term.
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Your attempt to match up American politics with french politics is cute, and laughable.
Well sort of, Macron had goverment experience, he simply left the socialist party because he was too moderate, but yes the anti-establishment mood is universal:
The real Russian problem is centered on Hillary. If the Russians are being accused of hacking everyone, around the world, then it follows that Hillary's private server may have been hacked and sensitive information compromised. Is it a coincidence, that the Russians were able to stay one step ahead of the Obama Administration in terms of its expansion policies? Did the Russians know in advance, through Hillary's server, high level US diplomatic strategy? Trump's election spoiled it for the Russians. They had Hillary by the short hairs.
Consider this scenario. Bill and Hillary had a Foundation, which made them rich, while also doing a lot of good charity work. Hillary did not divest herself, like expected of Trump. She was Secretary of State and a Trustee at the same time. She was mixing company business with private business, since her position, as Secretary of State, was very useful to both purposes. This was a way to be efficient with her time, with it all legal. She did not what her private dealings, on public record, since anything on a government server is open to scrutiny, by the freedom of information act. She decided to use a private server so she could control the information.
The problem with this arrangement, even if innocent, legal, and done by the book, is you have a former president and his wife, who is Secretary of State, meeting with world leaders and large cooperate organizations for both the foundation and government, all corresponding via a private server.
It is not hard to add spyware, to an e-mail attachment. If the incoming e-mail was expected, from someone who is offering a donation to the foundation or a speaking fee, the e-mail will be gladly opened. Bill gave speeches to Russian interests, which was not illegal. But the question is, did the KGB attached spyware to these e-mail correspondences. They will be opened, since it was good for business and expected.
It is possible, the Russian did not know she was using her private server for Government business. Who would do that? Rather they may have assumed she only using that server for her business dealings. When they entered the server, they struck silver and gold. Being in Hillary server, could also explain why they could enter the DNC server so easily. They could send an e-mail, that would look innocent with the correct routing addresses, so it was opened.
My guess is the Wikileaks information about Hillary, was not supplied by the Russians, but by the CIA. The reason was the CIA figured out that the Russian had compromised Hillary's Server, and they needed to take her out, delicately, so she not become a Russian puppet president. They also could not go public, since there was a lot of sensitive information that would impact other people, including the White House, who were unknowing victims, but who also were showing signs of corruption, that is normally concealed.
Trump is a distraction to keep the audience looking, over there, so the magicians can perform their disappearing trick.
Consider this scenario. Bill and Hillary had a Foundation, which made them rich, while also doing a lot of good charity work. Hillary did not divest herself, like expected of Trump. She was Secretary of State and a Trustee at the same time. She was mixing company business with private business, since her position, as Secretary of State, was very useful to both purposes. This was a way to be efficient with her time, with it all legal. She did not what her private dealings, on public record, since anything on a government server is open to scrutiny, by the freedom of information act. She decided to use a private server so she could control the information.
The problem with this arrangement, even if innocent, legal, and done by the book, is you have a former president and his wife, who is Secretary of State, meeting with world leaders and large cooperate organizations for both the foundation and government, all corresponding via a private server.
It is not hard to add spyware, to an e-mail attachment. If the incoming e-mail was expected, from someone who is offering a donation to the foundation or a speaking fee, the e-mail will be gladly opened. Bill gave speeches to Russian interests, which was not illegal. But the question is, did the KGB attached spyware to these e-mail correspondences. They will be opened, since it was good for business and expected.
It is possible, the Russian did not know she was using her private server for Government business. Who would do that? Rather they may have assumed she only using that server for her business dealings. When they entered the server, they struck silver and gold. Being in Hillary server, could also explain why they could enter the DNC server so easily. They could send an e-mail, that would look innocent with the correct routing addresses, so it was opened.
My guess is the Wikileaks information about Hillary, was not supplied by the Russians, but by the CIA. The reason was the CIA figured out that the Russian had compromised Hillary's Server, and they needed to take her out, delicately, so she not become a Russian puppet president. They also could not go public, since there was a lot of sensitive information that would impact other people, including the White House, who were unknowing victims, but who also were showing signs of corruption, that is normally concealed.
Trump is a distraction to keep the audience looking, over there, so the magicians can perform their disappearing trick.
Well here is the problem with that Wellwisher, per the testimony of FBI Director Comey under oath before Congress, there is no evidence Hillary’s server was ever hacked by Russians or anyone else for that matter. Two, there is no evidence Russia has hacked every server on the planet. They aren’t that good.
What does your alleged hacking of Hillary’s server have to do with staying one step ahead of anything? Hillary was in charge of the State Department, not the CIA. You do understand the difference between the CIA and the State Department?
How did Trump’s election spoil anything for Russia? Please do be specific? And what “short hairs” did Russia have on Clinton. Please do be specific.
The fact is with the election of Trump, Russia may have purchased an American president. The men around him, e.g. Flynn, Page, Sessions, others and Trump himself have been compromised by Russia.
Well for starters, Bill and Hillary created a charitable foundation, and it didn’t make them rich. They became wealthy by writing books and doing speaking engagements as their predecessors have done.
Here is the thing Wellwisher, here is the thing, unlike your man Trump, Hillary and Bill never profited from the Clinton Foundation. She never used the charitable foundation she created to fund her lifestyle or business interests as your man Trump did.
As for her use of a private email server, she did what her predecessors did. Her predecessors used private email servers for government business too. But the funny thing is you have no problems with Hillary’s predecessors using private email servers for public business because her predecessors were Republicans. Your hypocrisy here is “yuge”.
Hmm…It was done by the book. Oops.
The problem is you have no evidence to support any of your conspiracy theories: a) that Clinton’s email server was hacked by anyone much less the Russians, b) the previous Democratic White House was in any way corrupt, c) that Bill Clinton was in anyway corrupt, giving a speech for normal and customary fees, isn’t evidence of corruption. Bill Clinton gave one speech to a Russian investment bank. That’s singular, not plural as you asserted.
Furthermore, you have no evidence that the material released by Russia through Wikileaks was from the CIA. American intelligence agencies, including the recently appointed Republican CIA director, have definitively stated the material came from Russia. As with most everything with you Wellwisher, your beliefs and conspiracies are just not consistent with known facts.
...also for any citizen of the former Soviet Union... AKA "Greater Russia".
What is that meant ?
That means that during what many call "the cold war", it was very common for a citizen of the Soviet Union to address any other citizen of the Soviet Union as "comrade". This was an attempt to make it appear as though all citizens of the USSR were equals, despite that it was not so.
After the fall of the Berlin Wall, everyone thought that the cold war was over so the term fell into disuse. What many did not understand is that the USSR was actually just a "greater" (bigger) Russia and as far as the Russians are concerned the cold war never ended. So now, in order to implicate that a person is sympathetic to Russia and the idea of a new USSR or 'Greater Russia', that person as called "comrade".
Hope that helps.
After the fall of the Berlin Wall, everyone thought that the cold war was over so the term fell into disuse. What many did not understand is that the USSR was actually just a "greater" (bigger) Russia and as far as the Russians are concerned the cold war never ended. So now, in order to implicate that a person is sympathetic to Russia and the idea of a new USSR or 'Greater Russia', that person as called "comrade".
Hope that helps.
That means that during what many call "the cold war", it was very common for a citizen of the Soviet Union to address any other citizen of the Soviet Union as "comrade". This was an attempt to make it appear as though all citizens of the USSR were equals, despite that it was not so.
After the fall of the Berlin Wall, everyone thought that the cold war was over so the term fell into disuse. What many did not understand is that the USSR was actually just a "greater" (bigger) Russia and as far as the Russians are concerned the cold war never ended. So now, in order to implicate that a person is sympathetic to Russia and the idea of a new USSR or 'Greater Russia', that person as called "comrade".
Hope that helps.
Camarade is a German word. In Russian it is said TOVARISH = товарищ
Whatever you say is your business . I was in Russian camps during and after the ww2
Recent news (or is it reality TV?) -
Comey investigates Trump's ties to Russia; Trump then fires him. Comey finds out he is fired by seeing something on TV news.
Trump sends a "certified letter" to a senator to "prove" he has no ties to Russia. The very next day, his schedule is cleared and only one meeting is left - meeting with the Russian Minister of Foreign Affairs.
Sean Spicer gets so worked up he ends up hiding behind the bushes in the dark to avoid reporters. Literally.
Comey investigates Trump's ties to Russia; Trump then fires him. Comey finds out he is fired by seeing something on TV news.
Trump sends a "certified letter" to a senator to "prove" he has no ties to Russia. The very next day, his schedule is cleared and only one meeting is left - meeting with the Russian Minister of Foreign Affairs.
Sean Spicer gets so worked up he ends up hiding behind the bushes in the dark to avoid reporters. Literally.
Click because nothing amazing ever happens.
Beyond all else, I do think this sense of hyperdrama is a significant factor in #WhatTheyVotedFor. I recommend FLCL↱, before the sequel seasons endanger its context.
Something about wanting to live in interesting times, I suppose.
exchemist
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But the day is young! More reality TV from today:
Turns out that Comey had just started sending out subpoenas in the Trump-Russia investigation, and had just asked for more money for the investigation. And several aides have said that that made Trump mad.
Also turns out that Jeff Sessions, who had recused himself from the investigation due to his close connection to it, was one of the people pushing for Comey's firing.
And Spicer ran away for a week.
Oh, and if there was any doubt left on Trump's connections to Russia? His only meeting today was with the Russian minister for foreign affairs - and no US media was allowed in, only Russian.
Turns out that Comey had just started sending out subpoenas in the Trump-Russia investigation, and had just asked for more money for the investigation. And several aides have said that that made Trump mad.
Also turns out that Jeff Sessions, who had recused himself from the investigation due to his close connection to it, was one of the people pushing for Comey's firing.
And Spicer ran away for a week.
Oh, and if there was any doubt left on Trump's connections to Russia? His only meeting today was with the Russian minister for foreign affairs - and no US media was allowed in, only Russian.
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I did not know how to end in English but in Russian you have a letter that is not available in English (щ )
exchemist
Valued Senior Member
Yes I was taught to make it sound shch.
It's a French word, on my internet connection.