Russiagate

To remove or other wise minimize an honor system is to inhibit personal responsibility.
Honor systems in general are symptoms of social breakdown - a last resort or marginal adoption, when or where a society cannot establish community and mutual cooperation via the normal childhood upbringing, religion, or family/tribe/town custom, and lacks the power to coerce.

They provide a way to behave well in the absence of all coercion, as most people want to behave, without taking on the role of victim or sucker. In this role they are invaluable.

Addictions, like tobacco or opium or alcohol, subvert and undermine them at the root. They won't work, and pretending they will is feckless.
 
Capitalistic corporatism. It is the basic economic setup of fascism, and also works for non-authoritarian setups like the US and many other non-fascist States enjoy.
No problem.
Only of the losers, the governed. Not at the upper levels, where the winning capitalist corporations and the State merge under fascism - they had a largely free hand (subject to the demands of a war footing, mind, but these were not legal and regulatory) even in Germany, where strict regulation was and is a cultural stereotype and standard comedic fare, let alone Pinochet's Chile or Mussolini's Italy or Putin's Russia or Franco's Spain.
I disagree. There is, certainly, a great advantage for the really big 0.1%, which is present in all modern economies, because only the big firms can afford lobbies. So, those who write the many regulations are the big firms.

Is there something beyond this basic and fascism-independent advantage? Something additionally exist. What is quite typical for corporatist economy is an institutionalized form of lobbyism, namely some "chamber of commerce" or so organizations for all firms of a given sector, membership obligatory, which official power to regularize the sector. Of course, this power is that of the leadership of this chamber, and it is controlled by the big guys. Beyond this, personal friendship with the Führer plays a greater role in fascism than in democracies.
They are increasingly escaping government regulation, however, not falling subject to it - as is characteristic of fascism, in fact one of its defining features.
No. Here I simply disagree. This is a feature of another structure, globalism. Where you can, if you are a big guy, work with formally foreign tax havens.
I didn't mean German. I meant fascist - your chosen US political side, and possibly Russian as well.
Seems, you cannot write a post without some defamation.

Honor systems in general are symptoms of social breakdown - a last resort or marginal adoption, when or where a society cannot establish community and mutual cooperation via the normal childhood upbringing, religion, or family/tribe/town custom, and lacks the power to coerce.
No. Their existence is, instead, evidence that the social breakdown is not complete. Honor is something which works on the base of social value in a community.
Addictions, like tobacco or opium or alcohol, subvert and undermine them at the root. They won't work, and pretending they will is feckless.
No. They work, in the sense that the addicted people are penalized as people without honor. And, therefore, prevented from influencing society.
 
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I disagree
You are wrong.
No. Here I simply disagree. This is a feature of another structure, globalism
And you are wrong again, as even the most trivial of surveys of actual fascist governments would make clear.
Fascism is sufficient. Globalism is not necessary - it helps, of course.
Seems, you cannot write a post without some defamation.
You pretended to misread, so I corrected you. Again.
No. Their existence is, instead, evidence that the social breakdown is not complete. Honor is something which works on the base of social value in a community.
You mean "yes, honor systems are a dysfunctional last resort, I agree with you"
No. They work, in the sense that the addicted people are penalized as people without honor. And, therefore, prevented from influencing society.
In your fantasy world. Not in history, not in the course of events. In the real world, the restaurants and airplanes and subways and hotel rooms and classrooms fill with toxic smoke, pilots and judges and surgeons get drunk on the job, children and spouses are abandoned, things go to hell.
 
Some timeline stuff, and an update on Trump's odd behavior at the G20
http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2017/8/2/153416/7513?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed: boomantribune/Svpw (Booman Tribune)
In this time period, Trump and his lawyers and surrogates denied that Donald Trump had been aware that the story about Donald Jr. was coming and only learned about it when everyone else did after the story broke in the New York Times. They also denied (necessarily) that Trump had any role in crafting the statement on Air Force One.

There turned out to be quite a few problems with this story.
 
Can any one actually recall a single thing Trump has said that is true or even close to truth?
It is like as if his whole life is a lie.. .
 
Can any one actually recall a single thing Trump has said that is true or even close to truth?
It is like as if his whole life is a lie.. .
Politifact has been tracking this, and since he announced his candidacy he has said 20 things that are completely true. (The other 413 things, on the other hand . . .) His true statements:

Jon Ossoff "doesn't even live in (his) district." June 20th, 2017

The federal tax code includes "deductions for birds flying across America." May 15th, 2017

"General Flynn got his clearance from the Obama administration." May 2nd, 2017

Illegal immigration on the U.S.-Mexico border is "the lowest in 17 years." April 25th, 2017

"One-third of the counties — think of it, one-third — only have one insurer left" on the Affordable Care Act exchanges - March 13th, 2017

"Jackie Evancho’s album sales have skyrocketed after announcing her inauguration performance." January 5th, 2017

"Wisconsin is one of several states where you can change your early ballot if you think you've made a mistake." November 2nd, 2016

"Heroin .. pours across our southern borders." October 19th, 2016

"In Chicago, they've had thousands of shootings, thousands since Jan. 1. Thousands of shootings." September 27th, 2016

"We spend more per student than almost any other major country in the world." September 21st, 2016

Heroin comes in the United States "from the southern border." August 30th, 2016

Says the media distorted what happened with a baby at his rally. August 8th, 2016

"An amendment, pushed by Lyndon Johnson many years ago, threatens religious institutions with a loss of their tax-exempt status if they openly advocate their political views." July 22nd, 2016

"Our trade deficit in goods reached nearly … $800 billion last year alone." July 21st, 2016

"Forty-three million Americans are on food stamps." July 21st, 2016

"A shocking 20 veterans are committing suicide each and every day, especially our older veterans." Thursday, July 14th, 2016

Says Hillary Clinton "said she was under attack (in Bosnia) but the attack turned out to be young girls handing her flowers." Wednesday, June 22nd, 2016

Says a YouTube video shows Thomas DiMassimo "dragging the American flag on the ground like it was a piece of garbage." March 17th, 2016

The U.S. "doesn’t make television sets anymore." March 14th, 2016

Says American polling shows Russian President Vladimir Putin has "an 80 percent approval rating." December 20th, 2016
 
For the record, as of this week, a timeline: http://billmoyers.com/story/trump-russia-timeline/

Steven Harper compiled it, more or less on his own (considerable) recognizance, and an interview with him is linked:
Harper said:
Harper: I don’t know that it’ll tie every single one of them, because despite my best efforts it could very well turn out to be that a number of them won’t fit into the larger puzzle, but [I think] there’ll be enough of them that fit into certain puzzles that all of a sudden there’s a story that makes sense here and is proven with facts — and provable with facts, I should say. I think one theme will continue to be important will be the money trail. I think another theme will be just noticing or being aware of how events throughout the summer campaign of 2016 are awfully difficult to explain as coincidences, whether you call them hacking, Trump advisers interacting with Russians, Trump’s refusal to disengage from his Putin bromance. I think all of those things are going to be of a piece.

A third theme that has become prominent since I started the original timeline is what I would call the erosion of Trump’s sequential defenses, and unfortunately, the willingness of the GOP to let him get away with it. Just to illustrate the point, you know this all started with Trump and his team assuring everybody there had been no contacts between the campaign and Russians. That was defense No. 1. Defense No. 2 was, well, if there were contacts, there was no collusion. And then that has disappeared. Defense No. 3, particularly in light of the June 9, 2016 meeting among Trump’s senior advisers and the Russians, is, look, anyone would do it; it’s oppo research. Well, that isn’t really selling very well. So defense No. 4 has become, well, the Russians didn’t provide anything that was helpful anyway, so no harm, no foul. And now we’re up to [Nos.] 5 and 6, which I would summarize as whatever happened didn’t affect the election outcome, and No. 6, the newest one, is no matter what happened, Trump is still a legitimate president. And I think that No. 6 is a big one because I think that’s very much in question based on the failure of defenses 1 through 5.
 
Here's a bonny entry in the timeline category for any conspiracy theorists stockpiling "coincidences": https://www.emptywheel.net/2017/08/...m_campaign=Feed:+emptywheel/cAUy+(emptywheel)

You may also recall reports indicating members of the military sat with bated breath waiting for nine minutes between his first tweet and his next to determine if they were supposed to scramble or take other military action. That overlong ellipsis at the end of the first tweet left them wondering if they were to begin a North Korean strike.

But it wasn’t just the same day the raid and the tweets happened. Trump tweeted just as the raid must have been underway at Manafort’s house.
 
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