Robots are going to take over

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Eidolan

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So what will it be like once the robots take over? Will it be like it is in the Matrix, or I-Robot, or will they just kill us all?

Do you think they will put us in zoos to study us? Or will they assimilate us like the Borg?

They could turn us all into robots, and they could probably do it without most of us noticing. We're not very observant creatures.

What if the robots want to become like us? What about when we start having sex and babies with robots?

What is going to happen with the robots?
 
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but seriously, what basis do you have for assuming that '[the] robots are going to take over'?
 
I think robots taking us over is nonsense.
But IF they would I think it would be more like in The Terminator :D
 
So what will it be like once the robots take over? Will it be like it is in the Matrix, or I-Robot, or will they just kill us all?

Do you think they will put us in zoos to study us? Or will they assimilate us like the Borg?

They could turn us all into robots, and they could probably do it without most of us noticing. We're not very observant creatures.

What if the robots want to become like us? What about when we start having sex and babies with robots?

What is going to happen with the robots?

We created them; why would they want to study their creators? They would starve us by burning anything organic and contaminating the water.

We're organic, so sex is unlikley too.

They would also speed up climate change outcomes to make things more uncomfortable for any human survivors.

The robots would ultimately turn on each other, well after we're gone.
 
We've yet to build a machine that can move as efficiently as even a single cell organism. Minus the intelligence issues, they would have to be able to travel long distances with very little fuel/energy to collect new energy sources. That would require some kind of anti-gravity technology, an extremely large fuel storage capacity...or a Veeery long extension cord.

Long story short, it's improbable. Even nuclear driven machines would require lubrication to move in order to find more lubrication to operate long enough to make more nuclear powered machines.

Robots would have to be 100% organic hence not robots at all.
 
take over what? computers and any type of AI is only capable of doing predetermined actions. whatever a human writes in the code it will do nothing more. AI is non-existent and never will exist. PERIOD.
 
take over what? computers and any type of AI is only capable of doing predetermined actions. whatever a human writes in the code it will do nothing more. AI is non-existent and never will exist. PERIOD.

The study of artificial neural networks[103] began in the decade before the field AI research was founded. In the 1960s Frank Rosenblatt developed an important early version, the perceptron.[110] Paul Werbos developed the backpropagation algorithm for multilayer perceptrons in 1974,[111] which led to a renaissance in neural network research and connectionism in general in the middle 1980s. The Hopfield net, a form of attractor network, was first described by John Hopfield in 1982.

Common network architectures which have been developed include the feedforward neural network, the radial basis network, the Kohonen self-organizing map and various recurrent neural networks.[citation needed] Neural networks are applied to the problem of learning, using such techniques as Hebbian learning, competitive learning[112] and the relatively new architectures of Hierarchical Temporal Memory and Deep Belief Networks.


The artificial brain argument: The brain can be simulated. Hans Moravec, Ray Kurzweil and others have argued that it is technologically feasible to copy the brain directly into hardware and software, and that such a simulation will be essentially identical to the original. This argument combines the idea that a suitably powerful machine can simulate any process, with the materialist idea that the mind is the result of physical processes in the brain.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=U&star...igence&usg=AFQjCNFSTos5oLqwnouTFRqI7vyCtcUDxQ


Try talking to an AI online....

http://www.google.com/url?sa=U&star...n.html&usg=AFQjCNHamRWerHjb5vZkEysNZscRcW7A7w
 
Where is the 'artificial intelligence'? it is all human intelligence programmed into a machine. the only difference is that the machine can do it faster once it is told how to respond. even when there are different choices to make those choices were put there by a human. Hence, no AI. Since the machine cannot go beyond and discover new solutions then it is no more than a parrot.
 
There. i said it, now i am the bad guy?

Only if you think you are. I would like to differ with you by saying that a machine was doing the "thinking" when you asked it a question not a human so that , to me, is a piece of an AI machine not a human talking to you.
 
Only if you think you are. I would like to differ with you by saying that a machine was doing the "thinking" when you asked it a question not a human so that , to me, is a piece of an AI machine not a human talking to you.

But John is still correct.;)

An AI cannot have an original thought, all it's responses have to be pre-programed into it. And something many fail to see is that a great deal of human innovation was driven by emotion - like hunger, for example - and a machine can never be given true emotions.

No emotions, no original thought - yep, that's a machine, not intelligence.
 
So what will it be like once the robots take over? Will it be like it is in the Matrix, or I-Robot, or will they just kill us all?

Do you think they will put us in zoos to study us? Or will they assimilate us like the Borg?

They could turn us all into robots, and they could probably do it without most of us noticing. We're not very observant creatures.

What if the robots want to become like us? What about when we start having sex and babies with robots?

What is going to happen with the robots?


Robots are (for lack of a better way of saying this) nothing more than sophisticated toaster ovens. They are built by humans as labor saving devices.
Their core function is to perform the tasks they were designed to do.


.....of course, this is not to say that some idiot somewhere will try to create a machine programmed with organism-like routines, or "human" behaviors.....in which case, the machine will behave however the designer planned it to behave.

Machines will never arbitrarily develop a will of their own, but it's certainly possible to build a robot that looks like it has one.
 
First let us postulate that the computer scientists succeed in developing intelligent machines that can do all things better than human beings can do them. In that case presumably all work will be done by vast, highly organized systems of machines and no human effort will be necessary. Either of two cases might occur. The machines might be permitted to make all of their own decisions without human oversight, or else human control over the machines might be retained.

If the machines are permitted to make all their own decisions, we can't make any conjectures as to the results, because it is impossible to guess how such machines might behave. We only point out that the fate of the human race would be at the mercy of the machines. It might be argued that the human race would never be foolish enough to hand over all the power to the machines. But we are suggesting neither that the human race would voluntarily turn power over to the machines nor that the machines would willfully seize power. What we do suggest is that the human race might easily permit itself to drift into a position of such dependence on the machines that it would have no practical choice but to accept all of the machines' decisions. As society and the problems that face it become more and more complex and machines become more and more intelligent, people will let machines make more of their decisions for them, simply because machine-made decisions will bring better results than man-made ones. Eventually a stage may be reached at which the decisions necessary to keep the system running will be so complex that human beings will be incapable of making them intelligently. At that stage the machines will be in effective control. People won't be able to just turn the machines off, because they will be so dependent on them that turning them off would amount to suicide.

On the other hand it is possible that human control over the machines may be retained. In that case the average man may have control over certain private machines of his own, such as his car or his personal computer, but control over large systems of machines will be in the hands of a tiny elite - just as it is today, but with two differences. Due to improved techniques the elite will have greater control over the masses; and because human work will no longer be necessary the masses will be superfluous, a useless burden on the system. If the elite is ruthless they may simply decide to exterminate the mass of humanity. If they are humane they may use propaganda or other psychological or biological techniques to reduce the birth rate until the mass of humanity becomes extinct, leaving the world to the elite. Or, if the elite consists of soft-hearted liberals, they may decide to play the role of good shepherds to the rest of the human race. They will see to it that everyone's physical needs are satisfied, that all children are raised under psychologically hygienic conditions, that everyone has a wholesome hobby to keep him busy, and that anyone who may become dissatisfied undergoes "treatment" to cure his "problem." Of course, life will be so purposeless that people will have to be biologically or psychologically engineered either to remove their need for the power process or make them "sublimate" their drive for power into some harmless hobby. These engineered human beings may be happy in such a society, but they will most certainly not be free. They will have been reduced to the status of domestic animals.

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Biological species almost never survive encounters with superior competitors. Ten million years ago, South and North America were separated by a sunken Panama isthmus. South America, like Australia today, was populated by marsupial mammals, including pouched equivalents of rats, deers, and tigers. When the isthmus connecting North and South America rose, it took only a few thousand years for the northern placental species, with slightly more effective metabolisms and reproductive and nervous systems, to displace and eliminate almost all the southern marsupials.

In a completely free marketplace, superior robots would surely affect humans as North American placentals affected South American marsupials (and as humans have affected countless species). Robotic industries would compete vigorously among themselves for matter, energy, and space, incidentally driving their price beyond human reach. Unable to afford the necessities of life, biological humans would be squeezed out of existence.

There is probably some breathing room, because we do not live in a completely free marketplace. Government coerces nonmarket behavior, especially by collecting taxes. Judiciously applied, governmental coercion could support human populations in high style on the fruits of robot labor, perhaps for a long while.

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Humans will become extinct, but transhumans will live on.

Did you know there's no such word in the dictionary? So what are these "transhumans" then since you seem to know about them more than anyone else.:shrug:
 
Did you know there's no such word in the dictionary? So what are these "transhumans" then since you seem to know about them more than anyone else.:shrug:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transhumanism

Dictionaries are too slow in this digital age :D

The "transhumans" are us, or our children, or their children, depending on how quickly technology moves. Every species is a transitional species, humans included.
 
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