Real Religion

[Oniw17]

Is their a religion that's not based on super-natural principlaes such as god(s), reincarnations, karma, etc.? I shouldn't say based on, but rather, related to.

 

[c7ityi_]

gods, reincarnations, karma etc. are not supernatural.

but i know of no such religion.

 

[Sarkus]

gods, reincarnations, karma etc. are not supernatural.

Then please, please, please provide good evidence of their natural occurences.

 

[Godless]

Is their a religion that's not based on super-natural principlaes such as god(s), reincarnations, karma, etc.? I shouldn't say based on, but rather, related to.

Try these churches;

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[spidergoat]

Taoism, Buddhism

 

[c7ityi_]

Then please, please, please provide good evidence of their natural occurences.

you can't see because you don't believe, and you can't believe because you don't see.

clairvoyant people can see ghosts.

reincarnation is proven becos sum people remember their past lives.
karma is proven because it's just cause and effect.
god is proven to exist because it is just our higher self.

nature is not nature, it's our mind.

 

[perplexity]

Is their a religion that's not based on super-natural principlaes such as god(s), reincarnations, karma, etc.? I shouldn't say based on, but rather, related to.

The essential principles of Buddhism, cited as the Four Noble Truths, could hardly be more Worldy:

http://www.thebigview.com/buddhism/fourtruths.html

Never mind karma and reincarnation. If you read the original texts there is not so much about there about it anyway.

--- Ron.

 

[SycknesS]

you can't see because you don't believe, and you can't believe because you don't see.

clairvoyant people can see ghosts.

reincarnation is proven becos sum people remember their past lives.
karma is proven because it's just cause and effect.
god is proven to exist because it is just our higher self.

nature is not nature, it's our mind.

Do you consider yourself 'clairvoyant'?

Any "proof" for reincarnation is anecdotal, therefore isn't real proof.

Cause and effect isn't the same as karma. Karma cannot be disproven, but also hasn't been proven to be a real thing. You also can't disprove that there is an invisible pink dragon in my garage, but should do believe that? No? Ok, then why believe in Karma?

God is our higher self? What? Care to explain?

 

[Oniw17]

Thank you for the links. Also, I thought Taoism was a philosophy rather than a religion?

 

[spidergoat]

That's what they call religions without supernatural stuff.

 

[lightgigantic]

Is their a religion that's not based on super-natural principlaes such as god(s), reincarnations, karma, etc.? I shouldn't say based on, but rather, related to.

and you call this a search for real religion? sounds like a mundane religion and frankly it doesn't require an extensive search to uncover numerous opportunities to become a congregational member

 

[swivel]

clairvoyant people can see ghosts.

clairvoyant people say that they can see ghosts. The people that truly "believe" are the ones that give them money.

I have seen dozens of clairvoyants exposed for being fakes. I have never seen a shard of evidence that clairvoyants or ghosts exist.


Let's pretend that ghosts do exist, and people can talk to them. Woudn't we expect some things to be different? Wouldn't we expect some clairvoyant to be contacted by a few dead historical figures that want to clear some things up? Convince them to get in touch with a good biographer, and give new meaning to "ghost writer"?

What you never see is information from beyond that can be verified, and yet not already known.

Ever see the movie "Ghost"? Look at all the amazing thing Patrick Swayze could do through his interaction with a clairvoyant (ignoring the Kick the Can games he played). And not once has anything amazing been performed from beyond. That is a stellar record.

 

[lightgigantic]

Let's pretend that ghosts do exist, and people can talk to them. Woudn't we expect some things to be different? Wouldn't we expect some clairvoyant to be contacted by a few dead historical figures that want to clear some things up? Convince them to get in touch with a good biographer, and give new meaning to "ghost writer"?

They may have different needs, interests and concerns than persons with both subtle and gross bodies intact

Ever see the movie "Ghost"? Look at all the amazing thing Patrick Swayze could do through his interaction with a clairvoyant (ignoring the Kick the Can games he played). And not once has anything amazing been performed from beyond. That is a stellar record.

And theoretically, if ghosts were proven to you, what would it prove? What would it change in your existing perspective? What is to be gained (or lost)?