Rap or Crap?

I never hated rap until I was getting it shoved down my throat by a bunch of stupid rejects with no understanding of right or wrong and no grasp of reality. Mainstream rap glorifies something which is not good. Someone here said if you don't like rap just don't listen to it, but don't tell someone who does it sucks. However, that temptation is pretty hard to avoid when the person is telling you what kind of crap you're listening to.
 
the media shove bullshit rap down your throat, while the real rappers find it hard to get widely reconised without a stupid industry rap gimmic, and having some bling.
 
“Rap is the image of a life, the soul of a man on a paper

Rock is the essence of thought, the want for freedom

Jazz is the rhyme of the day, slowed down with love

Opera is the wisdom of history, the want to remember

Latin rhymes are the sounds of a culture, built with time

Thai’s slow rhythm’s moves along the breeze and quiets the sun.

I fall asleep listening too all, and many cultures become one in the land of dreams.”
 
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Okay, rockers listen to the low end theory by a tribe called quest. An example of good rap.
Rappers need to stop dissing the masters. Shakespeare is one of the greatest poets ever, and just because you can't get into his ancient and "primitive" english (like ours is so much better) doesn't mean a thing. Sure, a rapper may write something that is more moving for this generation, but in 500 years, he will sound even worse then shakespeare. They both will be obselete, but shakespeare will be better because he is more thoughtful and wise. Most rappers love playing with words and stuff, but true poetry is hard to come by in rap, no denying it. Good lyrics, sure. Most rappers have weaker prose because of the structure of a rap song. So much rhyming, and so little else. Wheres the anecdotes, the killer lines, ect? Rappers, in my mind, have art but not beauty. I need my beauty at least once a day. THats why I listen to classical, jazz, and rock. That beautiful piano song, that saxophones rich and playful tone, that godly guitar solo. I just don't get that out of rap, something about it, I guess it is the monotony. I appreciate it as art, and I even listen to a bit when I just need something to move to. Same for trance music. Good for car driving. As for the dissing of rock, you need to pay more attention. Plenty of rock has rythem, actually. Many of the best drummers are rock drummers, not hip hop drummers. Guitar is a hard instrument, certainly harder then "computer". I appreciate the fact that art is on any medium, and you should too.
Enough with all the supremecy. Its all good.
 
Tyler N. said:
Okay, rockers listen to the low end theory by a tribe called quest. An example of good rap.
WTF? Not that they are bad, but they are not all that great.
Tupac's music is really gangsta.
Bone Thugs has a bunch of good songs that made it commercially, and that did not.


Arquibus said:
I wonder how much you really know about music, especially since you have not once proved a point or made a legitimate argument. In fact, about the only moronic rants I have seen are yours...
You obviously know nothing about music as you have no valid argument.


panopticon707 said:
Cool and Arqy, get a life.
You get a life and a brain. You have no say anyway. Youa are as much a moron as Arqu.
 
I hate rap. It all sucks imo. I love the old school 70's funk scene, George Clinton, Parliament, The Gap Band, Kool & the Gang, Bootsys Rubber Band, Rick James, Atlantic Star, etc. I love that stuff. In my old neighborhood rap shook the walls. The filthy lyrics, the sexism and gay hating all wrapped in the standard; "Muthafucka muthafucka" is nauseating. Rap is Crap with puke on top.
 
Genji said:
I hate rap. It all sucks imo. I love the old school 70's funk scene, George Clinton, Parliament, The Gap Band, Kool & the Gang, Bootsys Rubber Band, Rick James, Atlantic Star, etc. I love that stuff. In my old neighborhood rap shook the walls. The filthy lyrics, the sexism and gay hating all wrapped in the standard; "Muthafucka muthafucka" is nauseating. Rap is Crap with puke on top.
Rap is great amazing music. Not all rap has cuss words in it, and not all rap is about sexism. Anybody can make a rap about anything.
They even have rap songs telling losers not to copy floppy disks.
 
cool skill said:
Rap is great amazing music. Not all rap has cuss words in it, and not all rap is about sexism. Anybody can make a rap about anything.
They even have rap songs telling losers not to copy floppy disks.
There's only 2 kinds of music I just can't listen to without wretching: New Country & Rap. I even get into international music, including Arabic! :eek: But that young country crap and rap just make my stomach turn. I guess I associate rap with the urban ghetto I lived in so long and the wretchedness of it all. It's mind boggling seeing youth in the burbs emulating the lowest common denominator, bopping and cussing to rap, glorifying murder, rape, drugs and death, not to mention grinding poverty. I wish I could seize ghetto wannabes and drop them off in a real rap setting. THAT would be a sight to see.
 
He has a point, though. Rap, being so popular with today's youth, could be used as a medium through which educational messages and public service announcements could be sent to them in a way that they will not necessarily ignore.
 
Hapsburg said:
He has a point, though. Rap, being so popular with today's youth, could be used as a medium through which educational messages and public service announcements could be sent to them in a way that they will not necessarily ignore.
It would be great if it had a redeeming message. Some of it did in the early 90's with NWA. Even though I don't like the music the message could still be there. Rap about revolution, fighting cops, racism, rednecks, skinheads, against war that taps urban blood, but no. It's all about killing, pussy, drugs and gittin krunked up in da cluuub. It leads nowhere. Black youth are already disadvantaged, adding this cultural cyanide doesn't help.
 
Genji said:
I guess I associate rap with the urban ghetto I lived in so long and the wretchedness of it all.
Who doesn't?
You act like there is something wrong with the best music that portrays the reality.
At least they do not depict all the eurocentric garbo that they show in the movies. Was there even a single minority in Superman other than Kumar who had one line and a crap role?
 
cool skill said:
Who doesn't?
You act like there is something wrong with the best music that portrays the reality.
At least they do not depict all the eurocentric garbo that they show in the movies. Was there even a single minority in Superman other than Kumar who had one line and a crap role?
Music that portrays reality is great. Not all music should be that way but I appreciate reggae, 70's black music, etc. CELEBRATING ignorance, sexism, homophobia, domestic abuse and drugs drags down black culture and sometimes validates white racist stereotypes. That isn't helpful at all. As for Superman? I haven't seen it.
 
"He has a point, though. Rap, being so popular with today's youth, could be used as a medium through which educational messages and public service announcements could be sent to them in a way that they will not necessarily ignore."

Hmm. A contract with Ludacris and School House Rock. I like that idea.
 
Genji said:
Music that portrays reality is great. Not all music should be that way but I appreciate reggae, 70's black music, etc. CELEBRATING ignorance, sexism, homophobia, domestic abuse and drugs drags down black culture and sometimes validates white racist stereotypes. That isn't helpful at all. As for Superman? I haven't seen it.

Why does there have to be a quota of minorities in everything?

I'll tell you a story. A few years ago, I stayed at some hotel in London for one night between flights. The hotel was run entirely by what I gathered were Pakistanis, in fact all the other guests seem to be Indian/Pakistani. Anyway, that's not important....the point is, you don't see the "equal opportunities" people getting on to them because 90% of their staff isn't white, but all the minorities still whine if 14% of the cast of a film isn't black or 9% muslim or whatever the fuck it is they want.
 
Genji said:
Music that portrays reality is great. Not all music should be that way but I appreciate reggae, 70's black music, etc. CELEBRATING ignorance, sexism, homophobia, domestic abuse and drugs drags down black culture and sometimes validates white racist stereotypes. That isn't helpful at all. As for Superman? I haven't seen it.
The ignorance is the stereotypes.
As long as oppression exists, all of what racists consider to be "ignorance" will continue because you are the ones that are truly ignorant.
 
G. F. Schleebenhorst said:
Why does there have to be a quota of minorities in everything?

I'll tell you a story. A few years ago, I stayed at some hotel in London for one night between flights. The hotel was run entirely by what I gathered were Pakistanis, in fact all the other guests seem to be Indian/Pakistani. Anyway, that's not important....the point is, you don't see the "equal opportunities" people getting on to them because 90% of their staff isn't white, but all the minorities still whine if 14% of the cast of a film isn't black or 9% muslim or whatever the fuck it is they want.
Nobody is talking about a hotel which has zero media influence. Hotels do not brainwash people into whitecentricism.
 
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