Rap or Crap?

Keep him around for entertainment value. He's defending something that cannot be, and there's nothing more hilarious than watching someone do just that.

Y'all remember the Iraqi Disinformation Minister....choppers in the background and all that?
 
Arquibus said:
Face it, Cool Skill, you are insulting me because you have no real argument. My arguments have been thought out and have had backing evidence
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No I'm insulting you because you are a total moron. You're arguments are not well thought out. They are completely brainless. You are downing rap music with false claims against it. IT only shows how dumb you are, and how little you know about music or anything for that matter. You are a retard.
 
Alot of people hate rap. But what they dont understand. Rap is for anyone, no matter if there native, white, black or mexican. People who are musicians that cant sing, rap. Not everyone can sing. Singing you have to have the skill. Rapping, it doesnt matter how your voice is, or who you are. You can take a nerd to a homeless guy and make it sound good. By what they write is up to them. I rap and im working on my album in my studiio, but im doing it as a hobby, I aint trying to sell cds and make money off of it. But you should have alot of respect for all the singers and rappers, because its hard work and hard to get there. I listen to rap, But i got alot of pride and i dont go around disrespecting jazz, country, rock, etc. I just made a hell of a good point, lol, jp, im out. peace. the romantic wardawg nativikee.
 
To a certain point I would agree with you, but it isn't that a rapper can't sing, nor that anyone else can. Tom Petty has a horrible singing voice, but I love his vocalizations. And, in the meantime, Cool Skill can either prove one of his points, prove that I am not planning ahead or supporting my arguments, or he can go straight to hell.
 
Yeah I know what your sayen, what they write does make a difference, cause most people that it relates to will listen too it no matter if the singing or rapping sucks. Theres a few songs I like, I hate the chores and I hate the rapping but I like the vocals, cause it relates to me.
 
Fathoms said:
As a someone who listens to copious amounts of alternative and classic rock, I can say that I never knew where to begin with hip hop. The commercial landscape is just so polluted right now with all forms of music, that expaning your horizons into another form of music can be difficult. If all I knew about rock was Linkin Park and Nickelback I'd be apt to say that it fucking sucks too. But I just recently picked up K-os' Joyful Rebellion album, and it RULES!!! It can only tenously be classified as Hip-hop because it blends so many styles of music (w/ live instrumentation I might add) with intelligent lyrics without being preachy or boring. Musically very well versed, with nods to Micheal Jackson, Pink Floyd, Ray Charles et al, and even cleverly dropping props to Nirvana and the Tragically Hip in his lyrics. So the moral of the story is, you can't just paint things you don't understand with such a broad brush as "it all sucks". There is legitimacy in all forms of music. K-os has been my gateway drug into rap and hip hop.
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YES!
 
common sense said:
I can't believe how narrow-minded some of you people are pertaining to different genres of music. Many of you are making baseless assumptions about something, that obviously most of you, know nothing about. If you can ever listen to landmark hip-hop albums such as A Tribe Called Quest's "The Low End Theory", Pete Rock & C.L. Smooth's "Mecca and the Soul Brother", Nas' "Illmatic", and De La Soul's "3 Feet High and Rising", hopefully you'll be able to fully appreciate the originality and eccentricity of the hip-hop genre. Using artists like 50 cent, Young Jeezy, Chingy, Nelly, Mike Jones, Paul Wall, among other mainstream acts as an archetype for hip-hop is also as stupid as me using Blink 182 and Good Charlotte to base my opinion on rock.

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Exactly. We're all throwing around a few example to stand in for a massive genre of music. There can't be any sort of meaningful discussion under a heading like "Rap or Crap."
 
nativikee said:
Alot of people hate rap. But what they dont understand. Rap is for anyone, no matter if there native, white, black or mexican. People who are musicians that cant sing, rap. Not everyone can sing. Singing you have to have the skill. Rapping, it doesnt matter how your voice is, or who you are. You can take a nerd to a homeless guy and make it sound good. By what they write is up to them. I rap and im working on my album in my studiio, but im doing it as a hobby, I aint trying to sell cds and make money off of it. But you should have alot of respect for all the singers and rappers, because its hard work and hard to get there. I listen to rap, But i got alot of pride and i dont go around disrespecting jazz, country, rock, etc. I just made a hell of a good point, lol, jp, im out. peace. the romantic wardawg nativikee.
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I'm going to have to disagree with you there. Rapping is not easy. It may sound like it to the uninitiated, but once you listen to enough hip hop to appreciate the finer points you'll realize that good rappers are very rare, much rarer than good singers. In singers, there is a huge mass of competently talented people and a few amazing artists. In rap you have a similar number of amazing artists, but most rappers just suck, they're people who have no business being there and just give it a shot because it sounds easy.
 
I concur with panopticon707, most rappers do suck. If every famous rapper were to get on stage right now and freestyle, over 75% couldn't do it. In my opinion, a good rapper has to be able to freestyle. That's the whole basis of rap, along with the lifestyle. Personally, rap is one of my favorite genre's of music. The messages it gives has changed a lot throughout the years. It used to be better.
 
"Freestyling" is rapping off the top of your head, without rehearsal. But true freestyling is rare, most rappers memorize a few choice lines at least. Like phrase-based jazz solos.
 
Whats up, I agree wit you but dont agree wit yall on free stylen, Free stylens ok, some rappers can do it and make it sound good, others just think they can. I free style for fun but I aint as good at it unless im drunk and by myself. I prefer sticking to paper, and taking more time thinking of lines and what I can do wit a song. Im currently working on my recording studio, than start working on my cd, But Im just doing it for myself. I aint trying to sell or make it big or anything. If any of you wanna build a home recording studio. go to homerecording.com and in there forums, you can learn alot, well holla at yall later. peace.
 
Oh, so that's what freestyling is? Honestly, I thought it was something quite mysterious, intractable even, like free jazz.......
 
What is this thing, "freestyle"?

Making it up as you go along, no prior thought required, usually used by those with no prior thoughts.
 
panopticon707 said:
"Freestyling" is rapping off the top of your head, without rehearsal. But true freestyling is rare, most rappers memorize a few choice lines at least. Like phrase-based jazz solos.
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ever seen Mos Def freestyle?....its inspiring....
 
Yes I have.

Rap is music. Dolts like have no understanding of what rap is or what music is. Therefore, they go on moronic rants against it. Then throw out nonsense points like they are provinf something.
 
I hope that comment wasn't directed at me Cool Skill, being that I am a musician and all. I wonder how much you really know about music, especially since you have not once proved a point or made a legitimate argument. In fact, about the only moronic rants I have seen are yours...
 
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