As a someone who listens to copious amounts of alternative and classic rock, I can say that I never knew where to begin with hip hop. The commercial landscape is just so polluted right now with all forms of music, that expaning your horizons into another form of music can be difficult. If all I knew about rock was Linkin Park and Nickelback I'd be apt to say that it fucking sucks too. But I just recently picked up K-os' Joyful Rebellion album, and it RULES!!! It can only tenously be classified as Hip-hop because it blends so many styles of music (w/ live instrumentation I might add) with intelligent lyrics without being preachy or boring. Musically very well versed, with nods to Micheal Jackson, Pink Floyd, Ray Charles et al, and even cleverly dropping props to Nirvana and the Tragically Hip in his lyrics. So the moral of the story is, you can't just paint things you don't understand with such a broad brush as "it all sucks". There is legitimacy in all forms of music. K-os has been my gateway drug into rap and hip hop.
Rap or Crap?
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Bla bla bla.giani_g said:
What you fail to recognize is that everything you seem to be talking about is irrelevant. As stated, this has no relevance on the quality of Shakespeares work. I do not care if you are Shakespeare or Britney Spears. If you are good, you are good because of the quality of your work. If you are trash, you are trash because of the quality of your work.
You know how much effect the popularity of a work has on the quality of a work? NONE!
The popularity of the work is irrelevant. It's moronic. Shakespeare has had ongoing popularity. WHO CARES???? Popularity does not make you good or bad. It had completely nothing to do with the quality of the work.
capnjeremy
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Anyone who is interested in music for any reason other than lyrics and "who's hot" should be able to tell who the good rappers are and who isn't. Eminem is not. But I don't care about him, he is just an MTv moneybag.
There are rappers out there who actually come up with creative content, like Immortal Technique and Del, rappers who don't delimit every other word with "whut" and "uh." Most rappers do not sing about "reality," per se, but their own lives. Not that it's bad to sing about your own life, but I do not live in a rappers reality, thus it's not reality, merely someone else's.
All of these rappers who are getting radio time and TV time are tools. And anyone who says they listen to "just about everything, except country and hip-hop and classical" should not be allowed to listen to music
LEARN TO APPRECIATE GOOD MUSIC
There are rappers out there who actually come up with creative content, like Immortal Technique and Del, rappers who don't delimit every other word with "whut" and "uh." Most rappers do not sing about "reality," per se, but their own lives. Not that it's bad to sing about your own life, but I do not live in a rappers reality, thus it's not reality, merely someone else's.
All of these rappers who are getting radio time and TV time are tools. And anyone who says they listen to "just about everything, except country and hip-hop and classical" should not be allowed to listen to music
LEARN TO APPRECIATE GOOD MUSIC
I think M&M is the bomb it's just so good to have some poxy white guy who dress like a gangster amoungst all the poppy pop pop swearing and sellling more records than james blunt. If there was no hip hop then the charts would be sooooooooo bland that we'ed all not listen to music rap music cannot be said to be crap but only by the smallest minded people whom have no idea about the width things have to be to get any good.
and rap what about faith no more they rapped but the whole rock band aspect makes people forget that the style was rap but with gituars.
I din't read any of the stuff in this thread but the title hope I still managed a nu point.
faith no more forever (when the chours is so good why wright comprehendleble lyrics?)
and rap what about faith no more they rapped but the whole rock band aspect makes people forget that the style was rap but with gituars.
I din't read any of the stuff in this thread but the title hope I still managed a nu point.
faith no more forever (when the chours is so good why wright comprehendleble lyrics?)
Actually, I already have two, though one is not in my head. Hurling around insults mindlessly at the people that refute their claims-Now there's a rapper for ya! Cool Skill, you should jump into the game! Throw even more mutha's and bitches into you words and you'd have it made.
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I can't believe how narrow-minded some of you people are pertaining to different genres of music. Many of you are making baseless assumptions about something, that obviously most of you, know nothing about. If you can ever listen to landmark hip-hop albums such as A Tribe Called Quest's "The Low End Theory", Pete Rock & C.L. Smooth's "Mecca and the Soul Brother", Nas' "Illmatic", and De La Soul's "3 Feet High and Rising", hopefully you'll be able to fully appreciate the originality and eccentricity of the hip-hop genre. Using artists like 50 cent, Young Jeezy, Chingy, Nelly, Mike Jones, Paul Wall, among other mainstream acts as an archetype for hip-hop is also as stupid as me using Blink 182 and Good Charlotte to base my opinion on rock.
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common sense
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Fathoms, can you tell me more about Joyful Rebellion? I liked his other album, Exit.
I think Rap can't predict the future, since on Jeru the Damagers first album its New York destroyed not New Orleans.
Also public enemy did a song called 911 is a joke, that certatainly doesn't seem to be the case now.
"I Sincerly Love Allah Mathematics," hip hops also bred some good quotes. :m:
Also public enemy did a song called 911 is a joke, that certatainly doesn't seem to be the case now.
"I Sincerly Love Allah Mathematics," hip hops also bred some good quotes. :m:
Basically the main thing I listen to is rap. But if its newschool or old school sell outs. I dont listen to it. I aint saying there crap. Its just not in my style. And alot of the way rappers make there cds has alot to do with all the digital things beeing made. But I think most of its good. I cant say I hate it. There some place I aint.
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Ever heard of the Sugar Hill Gang?
Lately I've been listening to alot of Westside Connection's shit. They are gritty as hell (just check out The Gangsta, The Killa, And The Dope Dealer to know what I mean), and have a good sense of humor, too (if you don't crack up at the end of So Many Rappers In Love, seriously you must love 'N SYNC). Music is also good (like the beach resort sound backround of Gangstas Make The World Go Round). Any fans of said group here?
Mindless rants? You are the fool that believes the only reason people don't like rap are because they're racist. It is your stupidity and that of people like you that insures 1-certain people will never like rap and 2-rap will be disrespected by a great deal of members of the rock community. The blind attacks against rap are in a cycle with the blind attacks against rock. Face it, Cool Skill, you are insulting me because you have no real argument. My arguments have been thought out and have had backing evidence, while yours consist of arrogant uni-directional views about the truth of your own opinions. So much waste...