Racist!

It's all about the ratings. Let's face it, it's brilliant TV. The voyeurs got what they wanted, the station got its ratings, Shetty got her (international) publicity and so did Goody, but the whole thing is sad, cynical and as shallow as a wet pavement.

The politicians that got involved in the outcry are dimwits, but there's nothing new there.
 
I don't know how you can say that, Sam. Racism, class-ism and general hatred of outsiders is pretty rampant in India ....they should be accustommed to it on a daily basis!

What's the matter, Sam, do you turn a blind eye to all the hatred and racism in India .......yet post your expressions of horror at racism in Britian? Clean up your own fuckin' nation before you condemn others for the same things.

Baron Max

After you, Baron.
 
It's all about the ratings. Let's face it, it's brilliant TV. The voyeurs got what they wanted, the station got its ratings, Shetty got her (international) publicity and so did Goody, but the whole thing is sad, cynical and as shallow as a wet pavement.

The politicians that got involved in the outcry are dimwits, but there's nothing new there.

I didn't think she got any really racist comments either, though the attitude was amazing (but I've never seen a CBB show before so its probably the norm).

I wasn't aware though that there was a problem with racism in the UK as some people commented on NDTV.
 
The definitions at Urban Dictionary are equally negative. Written by the cynical sons of middle-ranking administrators. I'm fiercely proud of where I come from. I'm proud to be a prole. With several million in the bank - I can still scarcely believe that - Jade Goody has little to be envious of in that respect. She's just a fat, stupid, ugly, loud-mouthed slob with no manners and no sense of grace. There are people like that at every level of society.

Are you really a prole? I don't see you as ignorant and sheeplike. While it's true that there are loud mouthed slobs / yobs at every level of society, I guess the same can be said for proles, come to think of it.
 
The definitions at Urban Dictionary are equally negative. Written by the cynical sons of middle-ranking administrators. I'm fiercely proud of where I come from. I'm proud to be a prole. With several million in the bank - I can still scarcely believe that - Jade Goody has little to be envious of in that respect. She's just a fat, stupid, ugly, loud-mouthed slob with no manners and no sense of grace. There are people like that at every level of society.

You're obviously a new advanced/upgraded version of the prole.:)
 
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Well we've had a lower caste Prime Minister (Q), elected by the people, so its not like we're totally ignoring the issue, have you had a black President?

Strawman retort, sam. The point is that you shouldn't point the finger at other nations when the very same issues are evident within your own.

In other words, the entire point of your thread is moot.
 
Well we've had a lower caste Prime Minister (Q), elected by the people, so its not like we're totally ignoring the issue, have you had a black President?

From Jackson to Clinton, there have been quite a few low-caste US Presidents. Clinton was even black, too.
 
Strawman retort, sam. The point is that you shouldn't point the finger at other nations when the very same issues are evident within your own.

In other words, the entire point of your thread is moot.

Fine just lets not hear any more about the secular nature of the irreligious West.
 
Strawman retort, sam. The point is that you shouldn't point the finger at other nations when the very same issues are evident within your own.

In other words, the entire point of your thread is moot.

:confused: this is a massive story in the UK.
 
Fine just lets not hear any more about the secular nature of the irreligious West.

You've never heard a word from me on that topic. I understand the state of the religious state, whether it India or the US. That is why I promote the end of religious doctrine worldwide, rather than just local infiltration.
 
You've never heard a word from me on that topic. I understand the state of the religious state, whether it India or the US. That is why I promote the end of religious doctrine worldwide, rather than just local infiltration.

Too bad you don't extend your understanding to human nature.

As an aside, why do you think communism failed as a political ideology?
 
Maybe.

Sure do hear a lot of nostalgia for the good old days though.

Funny thing about humans, they can put up with a bit of hardship for their ideals. Know what killed communism in the Soviet Union?
Glasnost.
Honesty.
Letting the people know that their heroes and their sacrifices were in vain and that they were taken advantage of.

But, still, they preferred subsisting to starving, for some strange reason.
Weird.
 
Too bad you don't extend your understanding to human nature.

Funny, that's the only understanding that is relevant to everyone, yet ignored by theists, and more importantly, doctrines such as the Quran, which tend to defile human nature.

As an aside, why do you think communism failed as a political ideology?

Does that have anything to do with racism?
 
Maybe.

Sure do hear a lot of nostalgia for the good old days though.

Funny thing about humans, they can put up with a bit of hardship for their ideals. Know what killed communism in the Soviet Union?
Glasnost.
Honesty.
Letting the people know that their heroes and their sacrifices were in vain and that they were taken advantage of.

But, still, they preferred subsisting to starving, for some strange reason.
Weird.

Communism is a great ideology but it presupposes values that humans seem reluctant to endorse. Perhaps in time we may come to appreciate the value of other human beings as something more than means to an end.
 
Funny, that's the only understanding that is relevant to everyone, yet ignored by theists, and more importantly, doctrines such as the Quran, which tend to defile human nature.

Wait, let me guess, more expert knowledge.

Does that have anything to do with racism?

Think.
 
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