Quatrain X.72, deception and fulfillment - the true story, explained by Matt Marriott

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<h2>Quatrain X.72, deception and fulfillment - the true story, explained by Matt Marriott</h2>
<h3>The denial of reality and of God's intervention reflects the state of the society</h3>
<h4>Why was X.72 fulfilled ...</h4>
<p>At first sight it seems incredible that Quatrain 10.72, the only prediction
that Nostradamus ever risked, became true. </p>
<p>In fact the first reason why the prediction was fulfilled is very simple: the
timing was right. Major events in the history of Mankind HAD to happen around
the year 2000.</p>
<p>In face of the extreme degree of brainwash and the great expectations
associated with this prophecy, how can you be surprised that God intervened one
more time to help humans, to let the prophecy fulfill exactly in the time frame(s)
specified?</p>
<h4>... and yet nobody wanted to see it</h4>
<p>Still before the end of the millenium, it should be clear how the prophecy
was fulfilled. And yet, even today, five and a half years later, I realised that
there's still no comprehensive explanation of these events, as you can check for
instance with the google search used as URL&nbsp; for this article.</p>
<h3>Quatrain 10.72 - How Nostradamus did it</h3>
<h4>Quatrain X.72 - literal translation ...</h4>
<p>X.72 is the only exception to the golden rule of the deception technique
described (1). A precise date is given: the seventh month of 1999, i.e. anywhere from July 14 through
13 August 1999 in the gregorian calendar that was introduced after Nostradamus
wrote</p>
<blockquote>
<p><i>L'an mil neuf cens nonante neuf sept mois,<br>
Du ciel viendra un gran Roy effrayeur.<br>
Resusciter le grand Roy d'Angolmois.<br>
Avant apres Mars regner par bon heur.</i></p>
</blockquote>

<p><i>About deffrayeur</i>&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>
<ul>

<li>In Nostradamus time, the word "effrayeur" meant "he, who chases away fright" : exactly the opposite of its current meaning.</li>
<li><i>effrayeur was replaced by deffrayeur</i> (big spender) after the first
edition of "Les Propheties&quot;, ...</li>

<li>... and later it was replaced with <i>d'effrayeur</i> (of fright).
</li>
</ul>
<p>We should retain the translation of the original quatrain as well as the last
one, used in 1999.</p>
<p>The literal english translation, listing all these possible alternative
literal
interpretations is:</p>
<blockquote>
<p><i>The year thousand nine hundred ninety nine seven [ month / months ],<br>
From [ the sky / heaven ] there will come a great King [ of fright / who chases away fright]:<br>
To bring back to life the great King of Angolmois,<br>
Before after [ Mars / March ] to reign by good luck.</i></p>
</blockquote>
<h4>Quatrain X.72 - ...&nbsp; and how it was packaged for the masses in 1999</h4>
<p>As July 1999 approached and&nbsp; the masses waited for the 1999 events to unfold
this was the translation that the illuminati media
propagated more often:</p>
<blockquote>
<p><i>&quot;In the year <font color="#FF0000"> 1999 and seven months</font>,<br>
From the <font color="#FF0000"> sky</font> will come a great King <font color="#FF0000"> of terror</font>.<br>
The great king of <font color="#FF0000">the Mongols</font> will be resuscitated,<br>
Before and after <font color="#FF0000"> Mars</font> reigns by good fortune.&quot;</i></p>
</blockquote>
<p>About the two words that are not linked to the literal translation:</p>
<p><font color="#FF0000">Mongols</font></p>
<ul>
<li>&quot;<font color="#FF0000">Angolmois</font>&quot; was presented as an anagram of Mongolois (the Mongols) which, historically, could be interpreted as a reference to East, Central Asia, Genghis Khan, etc.&nbsp;</li>
<li>This was introduced by Ericka Cheetham, The Man Who Saw Tomorrow: The Prophecies of Nostradamus, History’s Greatest Psychic (New York: Berkeley Books,
1973).</li>
</ul>
<p><font color="#FF0000">Of Terror</font></p>
<ul>
<li>The illuminati made sure that the word &quot;of terror&quot; was used to
translate &quot;<i>d'effrayeur</i>&quot;, which is disproportionate and not justified either in Old or Modern
French.&nbsp;
</li>
<li>The word &quot;<i>effrayeur</i>&quot; is derived from the verb &quot;<i>effrayer</i>&quot; (to frighten).
The word &quot;<i>terreur</i>&quot;
corresponds to the verb &quot;<i>terroriser</i>&quot; (to terrorise). In
Modern French, the words &quot;<i>effrayer</i>&quot; and &quot;<i>terroriser</i>&quot;
mean the same thing but the latter is far stronger than the former. It
corresponds to the paroxysm of fear : a rat may scare (<i>effrayer</i>)
someone but it can not terrorize (<i>terroriser</i>) them.&nbsp;
</li>
</ul>
<h4>Quatrain X.72 - why did Nostradamus risk a precise date</h4>
<p>These were the known observations and facts that caused Nostradamus in this case to risk
giving a precise date:&nbsp;</p>
<ul>
<li>Mankind gradually moving into the path of destruction.</li>
<li>The date for the birth of Jesus linking the end of the millemium to the deadline for that process.</li>
<li>Total solar eclipse visible in Europe at the end of the seventh month of
the last year of the millenium (July 31, i.e. August 11, 1999)&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
<h4>Quatrain X.72 - How did Nostradamus package the date</h4>
<p><i>Ciel</i> (sky / heaven); <i>Mois</i> ( Month / Months)&nbsp;</p>
<ul>
<li>The technique of using words / building the phrase to allow for multiple
interpretations.&nbsp;</li>
<li> In the case of <i> ciel</i> Nostradamus meant heaven, as you can deduct
from what he meant with <i>Angolmois</i>, <i>deffrayeur </i>and<i> resusciter</i>.</li>
<li>Since Nostradamus's reference point is July 31 (Julian calendar), using
the word <i>mois</i> is a brilliant solution to cover July (month) or August
(months).</li>
</ul>
<p><i>Angolmois</i>, <i>deffrayeur ...</i></p>
<ul>
<li>When it was first published, there could be no doubts whatsoever that it
was a reference to the King of <b>Angoumois</b>, Francis I.</li>
<li>Francis I: March 31, 1547,
Rambouillet), king of France (1515-47), the first of five monarchs of
the Angoulême branch of the House of Valois...&quot; [Encyclopaedia Britannica].&nbsp;</li>
<li>Francis I (François I)&nbsp; was the father of King Henry II (Henri II),
which was the king of France at the time the Prophecies were published.</li>
<li>The wife of Henry II, Catherine de Medici, was the patroness of Nostradamus.</li>
<li>No wonder that Nostradamus used the word <i>deffrayeur</i> (which as
mentioned above at that time meant &quot;who chases away
fright&quot;) associated to the King of Angolmois</li>
</ul>
<p>... and <i> resusciter </i>(to
bring back to life)</p>
<ul>
<li>Prince Charles was &quot;elected&quot; <b> Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire</b>,
making him ruler of Austria, Spain, Germany and the Netherlands in 1519.&nbsp; Charles
V was the <b> last German emperor to be crowned by the pope</b>.</li>
<li><span class="artcopy">&quot;Nineteen years old, secretive, cool-headed, and a
clever politician, the Emperor Charles V had his mind set on a <b> universal
monarchy</b>. His <b>
chief obstacle was the King of France, Francis I</b>. A mortal hatred emerged from this
rivalry, leading to <b> 27 years of savage warfare</b>, interrupted by truces that were
invariably violated.&quot; </span>From <a href="http://www.britannica.com/eb/article?tocId=2417">http://www.britannica.com/eb/article?tocId=2417</a></li>
<li>On February 24, 1525, Charles V led his forces against the army
of King François I at Pavia, Italy. After a six-hour battle,
King François was captured by imperial troops and the French army was defeated. After lengthy negotiations, the French
King agreed to the terms of surrender to the Emperor. He
was released from the custody of Emperor Charles V one year later.</p>
</li>
<li>On May 5, 1527
Spanish, German, and Italian <b> troops under the banner of the Holy Roman
Emperor</b> swarmed into Rome. Until December, when they were finally dispersed
by plague, these troops <b> plundered, tortured, raped, and murdered in the
defenseless capital of Christendom</b>. From The Sack of Rome, by Luigi Guicciardini.
</li>
</ul>
<p><i>Mars</i> (Mars / March)</p>
<ul>

<li>The reign of notable Mars oppositions would begin in March 1997. The reign
would end in 2005,
as Mars becomes considerably dimmer.</li>
<li>Mars being the symbol of war would add space and dramatic to other
interpretations.&nbsp;</li>
<li>Mars in french also means the month of March. In this interpretation it
adds additional precision.</li>

</ul>
<p><i>Bon heur (</i>Good Fortune)</p>
<ul>

<li>Mars interpretations of war or the month of March add dramatic and
precision ...&nbsp; but just the right portion. 1999 is special but at the end
life happily will continue. This is the sleeping pill effect explained in
&quot;<a href="http://http://www.goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=18069">Nostradamus success</a>
- an illuminati favorite&quot; (1).</li>

</ul>
<h3>Quatrain X.72 - how it was fulfilled</h3>
<p>I explained above what did the charlatan Nostradamus "predict" in quatrain 72.&nbsp;<br>
<b>No matter which possible interpretation you take</b>
(including the one presented to the masses in 1999), what I mentioned still holds:&nbsp;
<b>the only prediction that the fraud known as Nostradamus ever risked was fullfilled.</b>
</p>
<p>How did all those possible interpretations of his "prediction" come true?
If nobody will provide the correct answers this week, I will do it, may God will.
</p>
<p>With what I wrote above there should be no problem for someone to quickly
come up with the answer. But considering the brainwash level today, I feel I
should give some more help:
</p>
<ul>
<li>Altough Francis I was defeated, he played one of the key roles preventing
the fulfillment of <b>complete world dominance</b>, especially because of
the financial damage that the wars with Francis I caused to the treasure of
Charles V ...
</li>
<li>... which otherwise would see unprecedented favourable conditions in
the History of Mankind to reach that satanic goal, starting with the <b>gold supply</b>: fall of the
Aztec empire (Cortés, 1521); fall of the Inca empire (Pizarro,
fall of Cuzco in 1533).
</li>
</ul>

<hr>
<p><b>Notes</b></p>
<p>(1) <a href="http://www.christianforums.com/t1219784-nostradamus-an-illuminati-favorite-for-almost-500-years.html">Nostradamus - an illuminati favorite for almost 500 years<br>
 
In his troubled period, under constant threat, Nostradamus was an historian who described events of his time. The events happened of course before he wrote about them, but he disguised them in a sort of coded French. This has been demonstrated by French authors who happen to know Nostradamus well--and to read French, even coded French.

All the nonsense about his quatrains is simply that: nonsense. The quatrain you mention above was also applied to the 1999 death of John Kennedy, Jr's airplane crash in July (the 7th month).

His verse is written in very strict adherence to contemporary French poetry, in vers commun. His subject matter wasn't random and contained single subjects, which often centered on historical incidents of identifiable events past or contemporary to Nostradamus. For the quatrains that cannot be readily applied to historical events as known today, one need only considere that the details of court gossip or small-town histories have often been lost over the past five hundred and fifty years.

Nostradamus used fractured grammar to create double or triple meanings and developed enigmas to give his readers the satisfaction of interpreting them by useing a vocabulary of homonyms and antonyms to create multiple possible meanings. Significance junkies jump on this sort of thing and look for the "hidden" meanings, and attempt to apply them to modernity. Nostradamus would be quite pleased indeed!

I'm sure he would have been best mates with P.T. Barnum.

By the way, the original poster has been spamming this particular woo-woo spiel on various places of the internet. He also has a christian doomsday/antichrist website if I'm not mistaken. As if that sort of superstitious nonsense were any better received than Nostradamus.

At any rate, his post is a copy/paste of http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/02/310223.shtml and against the forum rules

References:

Pecker, Jean-Claude (1984). Des lyonnes en grimoire dans Ravenne, Le Debat-Gallimard, mars.

Prevost, Roger (1999). Nostradamus, le Mythe et la realite: un historien au temps des astrologues, Robert Laffont, Paris
 
SkinWalker, you try to suggest the opposite of my post (that shows how Nostradamus fooled the masses) and suggest that you contribute to what I'm asking for (a comprehensive explanation of how the prophecy was fullfilled) - what you don't do.
 
In another thread I explained how people that were called to act as advisors usually developed ways to manipulate either their words to events or events to their words.

Nostradamus was not the first to have been preposed to have mystical qualities, for instance the "Oracle" from Ancient times and it's likely he will not be the last suggested to have such qualities either.

However such people in a modern society with modern scientific teachings and the need for "Exact" answers usually allows any such frauding methods to be seen for what they are, making such people a very rare breed.

"You may fool all the people some of the time,
you can even fool some of the people all of the time,
but you cannot fool all of the people all the time."
Abraham Lincoln (American 16th US president, 1861-65)
 
MattMarriott said:
SkinWalker, you try to suggest the opposite of my post (that shows how Nostradamus fooled the masses) and suggest that you contribute to what I'm asking for (a comprehensive explanation of how the prophecy was fullfilled) - what you don't do.
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If you're asking for a comprehensive explanation of how a Nostradamus "prophecy" was full-filled, there will be none forthcoming. Nostradamus wasn't a prophet. He was a writer.

Indeed, there is no evidence to support any of the so-called prophecies people have uttered in history.
 
I have a comprehensive explanation of how a Nostradamus "prophecy" was full-filled. I'm just wondering if anyone else does.
 
Why would a four-line quatrain need a "comprehensive explanation" to convince others that it was full-filled?

To answer your "wondering," wouldn't it be logical to conclude that if anyone did, they'd announce it?

More likely, you are trolling for discussion; baiting us with a pre-planned arangement of posts and subjective answers and loose interpretations of the intentionally vague works of a 16th century writer.

The ability to fortell future events has never been empirically demonstrated nor is it likely to ever be. But if you are looking for social validation and the achievment of some sort of legitimacy or status among peers, then you may have come to the right place. Eventually, some nutter or woo-woo will click on the thread and buy into your spiel.
 
SkinWalker said:
To answer your "wondering," wouldn't it be logical to conclude that if anyone did, they'd announce it?
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Either you didn't read my post (where I explain that I couldn't see in the web anyone ELSE who could explain how the "prediction" was fulfilled)
...
OR you are trying to confuse people that start reading this thread.

Either way, apologize or keep out of my threads.
 
I've got a better idea. Say what you're trying to say or shut up.
 
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VRob said:
My guess is this would be George Bush Jr.
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Please, it's always the current pres. It used to be Ronnie Raygun, because the numerologists added up the length of his full name;

Ronald = 6
Wilson = 6
Reagan = 6

fuck me, 666, the number of the BeAsT! Woah, dude! Signifiance. NOT.
 
phlogistician said:
Please, it's always the current pres. It used to be Ronnie Raygun, because the numerologists added up the length of his full name;

Ronald = 6
Wilson = 6
Reagan = 6

fuck me, 666, the number of the BeAsT! Woah, dude! Signifiance. NOT.
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You can stick all your silly little formulas wherever you'd like. The formula I'm using is watching this guy destroy this nation and the world.
 
VRob said:
You can stick all your silly little formulas wherever you'd like. The formula I'm using is watching this guy destroy this nation and the world.
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Sorry dude, he's just an asshole with bad foreign policy. He's not destroying the world.
 
When you bring religion into a thread like this you should perhaps analyse your beliefs a little more. I posted this:
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=45799

Simply it's a little "story" some might say, however it might bare the fruits of truth to some and the hallmarks of contempt to others. I'm not trying to manipulate my envisonment of what occured in the ancient past, however you should perhaps not conclude events of the present based on 2000 year old fantasies.

As for Politics, There is enough spread out within all the political forums that suggest that some seats of power are riddled with corruption, however corruption doesn't have a master and only the mass of corruption as a whole is usually defined in a personafication.

Again a religious arguement that can be viewed through this post:
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=7628

For future reference, Religion is a subject that should stay in it's specific forum as it's not the same as the conversations on <B>Divination</B>.
 
<h4 style="MARGIN: 5px" align="center">Why were the <a href="http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=46532">Cossacks</a> called, as the last trumpets echoed</h4>
 
I'm sorry, Matt, I read through your post regarding the quatrain, but I failed to understand what the event was of September 1999 that is supposed to have fulfilled Nostradamus's prediction.

Unless it's a major global headline, however, it's not likely to raise any interest. And please don't come up with more of this "secret history" stuff (like how JFK was "allowed" to become US President, etc) because nobody is remotely convinced of that without some substantial documentary backup.
 
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