Python a few miles from my home

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Peckish python: 16ft-long snake found with adult deer in its stomach
By Emma Reynolds

Last updated at 2:20 PM on 29th October 2011

A 16-foot-long Burmese python was found to have a whole adult deer in its stomach after it was captured and killed in a U.S. national park.

The reptile - one of the biggest ever found in South Florida - had recently swallowed a doe the size of a small child.

Skip Snow, a python specialist who conducted the autopsy at Everglades National Park, said the animal had a girth of 44ins with the 56lb deer inside its stomach.

Large scale: The 16ft-long Burmese Python is captured by amazed workers in Everglades National Park in Florida

'This is clearly an extreme event,' he told the South Florida Sun-Sentinel. 'It shows you they can eat huge things.'

The python - an ambush predator - would have staked out a known deer trail, seized the animal in its sharp teeth, crushed it by coiling around it and then eaten the corpse, he said.

It is the first time a snake has been caught so soon after eating a deer, allowing biologists to see just how large their prey can be.

Scott Hardin, exotic species coordinator for the Florida Fish and Wildlife Commission, said the capture of the reptile was crucial to help prevent the spread of pythons further north.

'It’s pretty clearly one of the biggest snakes we’ve seen,' he said. 'We haven’t gotten anything longer than 16ft in the wild in Florida.'

Making hiss-tory: The snake is the first these biologists had cut open so soon after it had eaten a deer

The population of Burmese pythons in the Everglades has grown over the past several years, after being bought by people in the area as exotic pets.

State and federal wildlife officials say the dangerous snakes have been set loose by owners after growing too big, or escaped from enclosures destroyed by Hurricane Andrew in 1992, according to the Sun-Sentinel.

The pythons primarily eat smaller mammals and birds, but larger specimens are happy to munch on alligators, deer and hogs.

The snake was discovered by workers from South Florida Water Management District, who were removing non-native plants from a tree island.

The world's largest captive snake is a 25ft, 22st python called Medusa, who lives in Kansas City and is capable of killing and consuming animals that weigh as much as a healthy adult.


Battle of the bulge: The slippery customer had a girth of 44ins after swallowing a doe the size of a child

A 16ft Burmese python called Big Bertha arrived at London Zoo's Reptile House earlier this month.

Last year, scientists from Denmark used computer technology to look inside the organs of a python after it had swallowed a whole rat.

It took 132 hours for the snake to fully digest the rodent, with the snake's intestine expanding and its heart rate increasing to help it break down its substantial snack.

Researchers said pythons often fast for months and then eat enormous meals, and are able to consume up to 50 per cent of their own bodyweight.

The slippery predators have in recent years been documented eating cockatoos, frogs and even other snakes.
 
I have recently been told by a reliable scientific source that some 300,000 Burmese pythons are thought to inhabit the Everglades.
 
Should have left them in Burma. Florida have piranha yet? I understand lionfish are causing havoc in the coastal waters now.
 
like the pike in Montana that someone thought would be great to introduce cause they like pike fishing. The wolf of the river or lake . Alligator with gills I tell you
 
Should have left them in Burma. Florida have piranha yet? I understand lionfish are causing havoc in the coastal waters now.

No piranha yet but a some pacho which are similar. Lion fish becomming a problem, thought I have not seen one diving yet.

Peacock bass and Muscove ducks were a problem till we found out they taste good. Now, no problem.
 
Snakes get the headlines, but the invading species that cause the most trouble are things like stinkbugs (wiping out entire farms) and snakehead fish (eating every other fish in the water). And don't get me started on kudzu vine, which has taken over entire regions of the southern U.S.!

I haven't heard any reports yet of how the Europeans feel about having been "gifted" with raccoons.

Raccoon: A beautifully colored long-tailed American mammal closely related to bears, the size of a fairly small dog. Fierce, fearless and highly intelligent, with very agile hands. Catches fish from streams but easily adapts to civilization. Does cute tricks and begs for treats (there is nothing cuter on this planet than a baby raccoon eating a marshmallow), or overturns garbage cans. Brazenly steals food from picnic tables, cars, and unlocked kitchens.
 
I was hunting last May in Germany and saw a racoon. I asked about it and was told it was an invasive species called, a "white bear" that now had a hunting time, which was not when I was there.

The Germans have a hunting season all year long, there is always a reason to get your gun and go out in the forest.

They like the racoons. I hope tha it blends in with their enviorment.
 
One of my friends is a park ranger in the Caribbean. A duty of his is to catch those pesky lion fish. There are several volunteer groups that get together to net them as well. They really have a lot of damaging potential to the reefs, all because a few aquariums were breached in Florida after a tropical storm (or so I heard)
 
I'm told that when loin fish got too big, people just let them go in the ocean, like they did with Buffo Toads and Giant African Snails which are also pests down here.
 
Snakes get the headlines, but the invading species that cause the most trouble are things like stinkbugs (wiping out entire farms) and snakehead fish (eating every other fish in the water). And don't get me started on kudzu vine, which has taken over entire regions of the southern U.S.!

I haven't heard any reports yet of how the Europeans feel about having been "gifted" with raccoons.

Raccoon: A beautifully colored long-tailed American mammal closely related to bears, the size of a fairly small dog. Fierce, fearless and highly intelligent, with very agile hands. Catches fish from streams but easily adapts to civilization. Does cute tricks and begs for treats (there is nothing cuter on this planet than a baby raccoon eating a marshmallow), or overturns garbage cans. Brazenly steals food from picnic tables, cars, and unlocked kitchens.

"Dieter Hoffmann wagged an accusing finger at a visitor: "We like the United States of America, but we do not like your Waschbaeren!""
http://www4.vindy.com/content/national_world/312538560034602.php
 
The hunters like them, It gave them one more reason to go into the field.

I doubt that the people who's garbage cans are turned over like them much.

Last may, while hunting in Einbeck Germany, I wore a racoon hat. The locals like it and found one more use for the Weschbaeren.

Unfortunatly, once and envasive animal like the pythons here get established, it is hard, if not impossible to remove them.
 
Repo Man said:
We like the United States of America, but we do not like your Waschbären!
"Bears that wash," how cute. They spend a lot of time cleaning themselves.

I always thought they actually were bears, like pandas are bears despite the fact that they've evolved into herbivores. But they have their own family, Procyonidae, and are not members of Ursidae. Other members of the family include the kinkajou, coati, and several other similar creatures with strange Native American names. Apparently it's strictly a Western Hemisphere clade.

Considering what Europeans have done to the ecosystems of the other continents, they have no room to complain about getting one of our most charming creatures. The House Sparrow, Passer domesticus, alone has driven at least a dozen species of New World birds to the brink of extinction.
 
Kudzu is good in a salad. But you have to make sure it has not been sprayed.

Unfortunatly, were it grows, no one eats salad.

All food must be fried.
 
Actually, no, the Procyonidae is not exclusively a new world clade. The modern red panda is a procyonid as well. And there are fossil procyonids from Europe and Asia.

Rich
 
The red panda is known as a fossil from the western hemisphere. The oldest occurrence is a fossil represented by two partial skeletons and at least one other skull from the Miocene Gray Site in Tennessee. A related species is known from the Pliocene of Washington State.
 
Actually, no, the Procyonidae is not exclusively a new world clade. The modern red panda is a procyonid as well. And there are fossil procyonids from Europe and Asia.
Wikipedia says the red panda has its own family, Ailuridae, which is in the superfamily Musteloidea, with the Procyonidae, Mustelidae (weasels) and Mephitidae (skunks). This clade and Pinnipedia (seals) comprise the infraorder, Arctoidea.
 
The most recent total evidence phylogeny combining molecular and morphological evidence places the red panda within the Procyonidae. Other than that, the nestled clades are the same.

Of course, that could change in the future. We have very little fossil record of the red panda, and none from China - it is all is Europe and North America. So new fossils will eventually add to the story. But that's the excitement of science, eh?

Rich
 
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