John Mark E
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thedevilsreject said:
Why should the "Religious Texts" be left out? Only in this way will you know that I'm not making this stuff up off the top of my head.
prove to me that god is real
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Why should the "Religious Texts" be left out? Only in this way will you know that I'm not making this stuff up off the top of my head.
I suppose I could... you know lay off of Atheists in general for a while.. and concentrate on ruining YOUR LIFE DEVILSREJECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
John Mark E said:
sorry maybe i was a little harsh, but people around here use religious texts as proof. welcome anyway and sorry for being harsh a little too soon
Athiest Hater #1 said:
your are neither important or intelligent enough to even try so take your quran and shove it up your ass sideways
Wow.. A gay joke. My God I'm so scared. I suppose I could *yawn* um, say aahh.... There you go, wow, you're so fun to battle it out with.Man I'm so scared of you. Ad you little Atheist brigade *yawn*. I'll figure some way out of this horrible situation you have put me in....
so thats your crude contribution to an argument, well done i am speechless at your intellectual mightAthiest Hater #1 said:
*bows down before religious nutter*
John Mark E
Registered Senior Member
thedevilsreject said:
Ya' know...call me crazy, but I guess I would have to take that as complimentary. Thank you. I can handle being "another religious fanatic".
Rickie said:
The bible says all mankind sprung from Adam and Eve and you are saying that evolution was also a source of mankind in an effort to resolve the obvious contradiction you pointed out? Resolution of the contradiction in this manner creates another one as it goes against biblical assertion of Adam and Eve being the originators of the human species.
John Mark E
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Crunchy Cat said:
I agree, this would be a big contradiction...thousands of years compared to 6 days to the creation of mankind. Only one can be true. If something in the Bible is proven to be false, then how can any of the rest of it be proven true. Who could say which was true, which was false, or which was symbolic and not literal.
Basic sociology points to a centralized point of origin of society. This central point lies in the area around Mesopotamia. Study would show that this is the area accepted as the location of 'The Garden of Eden'.
The law in the Bible was not given until years later that immediate family members could not marry.
One more belief of mine is that the Genesis account of creation is literal.
By my faith, I do not have to have evidence of the accuracy of scripture in order to accept it. When I do find it, the discovery is that much more enjoyable.
John,
Ahh good, a Christian who realizes that the A&E story must be true otherwise the whole Jesus storyline would be a sham. It was their original disobediant actions that condemned the whole of mankind to death and created the need for a savior. If they didn't really exist then there would be no basis for Christianity, right?
Welcome John..
Just thought I'd question a quick error in your last post concerning evolution. You said: "BY CHANCE". What do you mean by chance?
You said that some 12 times in your earlier post. How can you go through life like that? But I would be interested to 'know' why you believe. If you could fill me in I'd be grateful.
Well a christian apologist would tell you that gen 4 also states that 'had many other sons and daughters', and that of course daughters weren't mentioned. Indeed in the family tree shown shortly after, it mentions the sons that were born and then just says "had other sons of daughters". It does this all the way down to Noah. The argument is that Adam and Eve had daughters as well, they just weren't mentioned.
However, I would just say you are entitled to your belief that Adam, Eve and all the animals in the GofE were 'made', and that everything outside of the GofE evolved. As far as reality goes, the idea is complete codswollop - but don't let it stop you.
Just thought I'd question a quick error in your last post concerning evolution. You said: "BY CHANCE". What do you mean by chance?
You said that some 12 times in your earlier post. How can you go through life like that? But I would be interested to 'know' why you believe. If you could fill me in I'd be grateful.
Well a christian apologist would tell you that gen 4 also states that 'had many other sons and daughters', and that of course daughters weren't mentioned. Indeed in the family tree shown shortly after, it mentions the sons that were born and then just says "had other sons of daughters". It does this all the way down to Noah. The argument is that Adam and Eve had daughters as well, they just weren't mentioned.
However, I would just say you are entitled to your belief that Adam, Eve and all the animals in the GofE were 'made', and that everything outside of the GofE evolved. As far as reality goes, the idea is complete codswollop - but don't let it stop you.
John Mark E said:
I believe that I have great big wings on may back that allow me to fly. I believe it so much I'm going to attack evolution science and claim it's all bollocks since evolution cannot explain how I (a human) have wings on my back.
Do I sound like a nutter?
LiveInFaith
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God has never been proven scientifically. It would not be.
How does anybody prove that I have experienced a dream?
How does anybody prove that I have experienced a dream?
LiveInFaith said:
On what grounds do you say that god has not been proven scientifically?
On what grounds do you say that perceiving god is the same as a dream?
LiveInFaith
Registered Senior Member
Statement no 1, in common term used in this thread, instance of evidence.
Statements number 2 is not saying what you think, it's merely a question that I need other to answer.
Statements number 2 is not saying what you think, it's merely a question that I need other to answer.
LiveInFaith
Registered Senior Member
LG, I think I need to declare that I have faith in God. Then you could see my question with different meaning : I am begging anybody to prove, wether or not I have experienced such dream? say, last night when I slept so tightly.
John Mark E said:
I'll have to ask you for evidence of these claims.