Protestation of Infraction from Bells

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Prince_James

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In the now-closed thread regarding Lord Hillyer's and my banning for three days, I referred to Bells as a "cranky cunt".

She warned me that referring to her as such again would produce an infraction.

In the course of the conversation, James R. threatened to ban me if I called her it again, and I replied to him:

Pray tell how calling someone a "cranky cunt" is a serious offense?

I am not even baiting you here: Seriously, what is so bad about "cranky cunt"?
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"Cranky cunt" is the most abusive language possible?

How so?

I thought in Australia, the term "cunt" was relatively common, for one?

Secondly, certainly one can say something worse than "cunt", can't one?

I mean, off hand, I can think of several things I could have called her far more offensive than that. I won't repeat them here, though.
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When someone insults me, I insult back.

I have been repeatedly insulted and slandered by yourself and others.

Pray tell why should I not retaliate in kind?

Am I to suppose that moderators have special "flame" privileges?

Here, how about this James R.:

You give yourself, Bells, and several other peoples infractions for unwarrantedly calling me a "racist bigot" and you give me a 5 point infraction for calling Bells a "cranky cunt".

We'll be even then and we can go on like big boys and girls.
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In none of the above statements did I call Bells herself a "cranky cunt", but referred to the incident in which I did. Unless I adopt a euphemism (which I doubt would have not given me an infraction anyway) I cannot reference even the activity of doing something?

Bells said it was "obvious" I was using it to insult her purposefully. I deny this, as I mentioned explicitly in my post "I am not even baiting you" to show James R. that I wasn't even trying to make a point here, but asking for why this is considered so heinous.

Accordingly, though the infraction is very light and I could not give a damn whether Bells is insulted or not, I protest receiving it as I did not warrant it.
 
Get used to it everyone. As long as SF embraces neo Nazis we will always have these provocations and trolling. Free speech is peachy and all I suppose but does it have to include the KKK?
 
Clearly you are creating a disguised insult by claiming that you are merely discussing the insult. Deception to be sure, but one that gives you "plausible" deniability.

The irony is that the infraction you received was for inappropriate language, not flaming or insulting. Here's the ironic part: you can get yet another infraction for exactly the same reason since your OP in this thread uses the same inappropriate language. Especially since you goal is probably to continue to make the original insult whilst maintaining the cowardly stance of claiming to be "merely discussing it." In essence, you're still referring to her with the same insult.
 
Skinwalker:

I am actually being completely honest here:

Like I told Bells, I am not passive aggressive. I am -outwardly- aggressive. If I want to call someone something, I call them something. I do not use underhanded tactics as a manner of course.

If you'd care to review my post record, you'd see that generally speaking, I'm a straight shooter.

And actually, Skinwalker, Bells told me in PM to "feel free" to discuss it in public. In fact, to give her quote verbatim:

If you wish to make your grievances public in regards to the infraction I have given you, by all means do so.
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Moreover, since this is the appropriate forum to discuss a complaint such as this, giving me an infraction for complaining about it would be hardly appropriate in the least. In fact, I think it would be quite apparent that any such move towards that would speak leaps and bounds against the integrity of Sciforums and of the moderators in particular.
 
I'm thinking more and more that by not giving you an infraction for inappropriate language, I'm shirking my duties. Whether that inappropriate language be in quotes or not.

Perhaps I'll revisit the post and decide later. Particularly now that you've reminded me that there should be some "integrity" within the SciForums moderation team.

Yes... it indeed inspires one to stroke the chin. You could, of course, edit the inappropriate language before I return. However, should it still be there and I'm of the mind that it is inappropriate and, assuming that I'm of the mind that there should be "integrity" in the standards of the SciForums moderation, I'll not be inclined to reverse any infraction should it later be edited.
 
Skinwalker:

If you cannot see that such would be a blatant abuse of your powers, I cannot see why I should acquisce to your demands.

If you are so inclined towards this course of action, I stand here only to challenge you to "do your worse". Give me whatever infraction or ban you desire.

I care not, but I shall not be party to despotism.

"There are many things for which I am willing to die, but none that I am willing to kill" - Gandhi.
 
Fine. I gave you opportunity to right your wrong. For all who view this thread, I'm issuing an infraction against PJ for use of inappropriate language. Period.
 
Anyway, shall any moderator like to discuss the actual topic at hand, rather than go on a tangent?

And perhaps would someone like to erase Skinwalker's mistake?
 
Prince_James said:
Moreover, since this is the appropriate forum to discuss a complaint such as this,. . .
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i disagree.
you should take this up through PMs.
bells has given me infractions too, and for essentially the same thing you are doing.
did i drag this crap out onto the open forums? no, i took care of it with the party involved by PM.
 
Prince_James said:
And perhaps would someone like to erase Skinwalker's mistake?
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There is no mistake. I will reissue the infraction if it is erased.

I think the biggest problem is that do not take responsibility for your actions. Maybe you can't see that you do have problematic behavioural patterns, but your ban and the infractions you received should have been a hint that maybe a time-out is needed so you can do some introspection.
 
Spuriousmonkey:

Befitting your user name, you are both spurious, and ape-like in this situation.
 
leopold99:

Actually, if you had bothered to read my posts above, you'd have noticed that Bells gave me the clear to air our dirty laundry out in public.
 
Prince_James said:
leopold99:

Actually, if you had bothered to read my posts above, you'd have noticed that Bells gave me the clear to air our dirty laundry out in public.
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you have alot to learn about women. she's giving you the rope and she's going to laugh herself silly when you hang yourself with it.
 
Prince_James said:
Secondly, certainly one can say something worse than "cunt", can't one?

I mean, off hand, I can think of several things I could have called her far more offensive than that. I won't repeat them here, though.
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I'm genuinely impressed. Satisfy my curiosity.
 
The only reason I haven't closed this thread is Bell's statement that she wanted to allow discussion of the matter.

However, I would suggest that there is nothing further to be gained here.
 
Prince_James said:
leopold99:

Actually, if you had bothered to read my posts above, you'd have noticed that Bells gave me the clear to air our dirty laundry out in public.
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I said you were free to voice your complaint publically and/or privately with admin or however else. Anyone who feels they have a need to complain should do so as they see fit.

I still stand by my decision to give you the infraction I did, and I advised you of that.

I have kept out of this thread up until now because it was about me and you had a right to complain without my getting involved.

That is all I wish to say on the matter.
 
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