Pressure Harvesting - from ocean depths

Quantum Quack said:
Why do consider me to have an ego?
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Of course. We all have an ego. I thought mine was over the top but your carriage of your proposal suggest you avoid any input that may suggest you are wrong..that behaviour will get the call that you are ego driven.
Quantum Quack said:
Is it because I sometimes see stuff that other people have missed?
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Not at all.
Consider your general response..if you can.
You can not entertain valid input and you call people in effect..liars.
You misrepresented my position. Rather than discuss you cry "nonsense" which for me suggests you are ego driven....in a bad way.
Quantum Quack said:
and what the hell has that got to do with the thread topic any how?
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Well a great deal in so far as your ego and determination that you are right clouds your ability to consider what is put to you.
Still you are a young man yet to mature and enjoy polite discussion...And what sort of a dummy spit was "reported" do you realise that shows you as a fool?

Alex
 
Xelasnave.1947 said:
Of course. We all have an ego. I thought mine was over the top but your carriage of your proposal suggest you avoid any input that may suggest you are wrong..that behaviour will get the call that you are ego driven.

Not at all.
Consider your general response..if you can.
You can not entertain valid input and you call people in effect..liars.
You misrepresented my position. Rather than discuss you cry "nonsense" which for me suggests you are ego driven....in a bad way.

Well a great deal in so far as your ego and determination that you are right clouds your ability to consider what is put to you.
Still you are a young man yet to mature and enjoy life discussion.
And what sort of a dummy spit was "reported" do you realise that shows you as a fool?
Alex
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I have been considering all contra views and I am still considering them but when people talk nonsense I will tell them for their own benefit if anything.
I am still waiting for someone to categorically claim that you can not compress air using the pressure available at depth of oceans.
Until then we shall have to deal with the reality that you can.
Even you acknowledge that your balloon will reduce it's size when sunk to the bottom of a pool.
Why does it shrink in size?
Answer: Because of water pressure and the weight that is holding the balloon down.
So even you have declared that air can be compressed by the weight of water...

do you refute this?
 
so you have a swimming pool 10 feet deep.
You let a variable volume container full of air at atm'c pressure (14psi) sink to the bottom 10 feet.
you measure the air pressure in the container and find it to be 19.14psi
you then pipe the pressure to the surface and store it at 19.14psi.
Retrieve the now full of water vessel and repeat as many times as you like because the pressure in the pool remains unchanged.

ok...
why doesn't this work?
just claiming it can't because of the laws of thermodynamics does change the fact that it does.
So why doesn't it work?

The reason why it works is surprisingly simple...with out conflicting the laws of thermodynamics
I am pretty sure Q-reeus worked it out ages ago in one of his posts..
 
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Quantum Quack said:
nonsense I will tell them for their own benefit if anything.
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Well I don't agree with such an arrogant approach.
Folk join in and promote your thread, take their time and you casually dismiss their input with a call of nonsense. No view deserves your arrogant response.
Quantum Quack said:
I am still waiting for someone to categorically claim that you can not compress air using the pressure available at depth of oceans.
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Your arrogance now has a target on your back..folk have changed from being helpful to distructive. No one will be helpful to an arrogant ego driven fool. I don't think you have thanked a single person for contributing to your thread which is disrespectful and tiresome.
Quantum Quack said:
I am still waiting for someone to categorically claim that you can not compress air using the pressure available at depth of oceans.
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And perhaps you shall wait without any further input having presented as arrogant who now will engage in a meaningful way.
Quantum Quack said:
Why does it shrink in size?
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You see I don't now care.
You owe me and those included in your swipe an apology ... Without it we will be focused on that target you have drawn on your back.
For me to recover the high respect I held for you you must crawl on your knees begging for forgiveness and offering a long and sincere apology.
Alex
 
Xelasnave.1947 said:
For me to recover the high respect I held for you you must crawl on your knees begging for forgiveness and offering a long and sincere apology.
Alex
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lol ....and you seriously think someone crawling on their hands and knees begging for forgiveness will earn them your respect....some respect... bah!

When you are wrong you are wrong simple...
I admit when I am wrong or mistaken... why can't you?
Do you want to be told you are right when you are wrong?
 
Xelasnave.1947 said:
I don't think you have thanked a single person for contributing to your thread which is disrespectful and tiresome.
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so untrue...
and besides this issue is far bigger than this forum, me or any one individual...
I'll post you a You tube video and make the world a happier place...arrogance? lol
 
Xelasnave.1947 said:
Well I don't agree with such an arrogant approach.
Folk join in and promote your thread, take their time and you casually dismiss their input with a call of nonsense. No view deserves your arrogant response.

Your arrogance now has a target on your back..folk have changed from being helpful to distructive. No one will be helpful to an arrogant ego driven fool. I don't think you have thanked a single person for contributing to your thread which is disrespectful and tiresome.

And perhaps you shall wait without any further input having presented as arrogant who now will engage in a meaningful way.

You see I don't now care.
You owe me and those included in your swipe an apology ... Without it we will be focused on that target you have drawn on your back.
For me to recover the high respect I held for you you must crawl on your knees begging for forgiveness and offering a long and sincere apology.
Alex
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One of the reasons I started this thread with the title as I did is because Google will pick up on it.
Google "pressure harvesting from ocean depths". (Page 1 item 2)
Renewable energies as you know are all the rage at the moment and should draw some new members or at least viewers to sciforums.
Guess you might end up famous... lol

Also
see:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_harvesting
 
Quantum Quack said:
lol ....and you seriously think someone crawling on their hands and knees begging for forgiveness will earn them your respect....some respect... bah!
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I don't know but you could try and throw yourself at my feet and I should being a reasonable man forgive you if I am convinced of your sincerity and contrition.
Quantum Quack said:
why can't you?
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I have given you more time than you deserve yet you insist upon presenting as a mere target to attack.
What point do you contend that I am wrong about...Or rather address the physics and dig your grave.
Quantum Quack said:
Do you want to be told you are right when you are wrong?
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I am not like you. I take into account physics and if you wish to argue I suggest you engage the physics...but know this... I am not someone to stir up..until you apologise to me and those in that swipe you will get nothing other than a casual destruction such that finally you will leave this place with your tail between your legs with your credibility destroyed..now you don't want that do you...fall down crawl forward and convince me I should accept your apology.

Until you apologise there will be no discussion only a sustained attack upon your arrogance and inflated ego.

Alex
 
Xelasnave.1947 said:
I am not like you. I take into account physics and if you wish to argue I suggest you engage the physics...but know this... I am not someone to stir up..until you apologise to me and those in that swipe you will get nothing other than a casual destruction such that finally you will leave this place with your tail between your legs with your credibility destroyed..now you don't want that do you...fall down crawl forward and convince me I should accept your apology.

Until you apologise there will be no discussion only a sustained attack upon your arrogance and inflated ego.
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are you threatening to troll and flame?
 
Quantum Quack said:
is that the best scientific assessment you can come up with? That it must be bollocks....
You can join the list in post #338 Well done!

You are saying that you can't use the depth of the ocean pressure to compress air...because it breaches the law of thermodynamics...
well I am sorry you can...and you know you can...
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Now you have to be trolling.

Nobody denies you can get compressed air out of, but you cannot use that as a source of energy unless you keep dropping things to the bottom of the sea to provide the energy you need to get the compressed air.
 
exchemist said:
Now you have to be trolling.

Nobody denies you can get compressed air out of, but you cannot use that as a source of energy unless you keep dropping things to the bottom of the sea to provide the energy you need to get the compressed air.
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exactly... so when you raise your vessel drain the water and fill it with air what are you doing to the displacement of the ocean?
no free ride ok...
The reason why you can take advantage of the pressure at depth with out depleting it is because you add the pressure to begin with by displacement.
so no free ride...
 
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Quantum Quack said:
One of the reasons I started this thread with the title as I did is because Google will pick up on it.
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Perhaps but now all that onlookers will observe is your arrogance but hopefully you making an apology that a decent man would ... Without seeing the pressure given to the degree that is warranted in your case.
Quantum Quack said:
Google "pressure harvesting from ocean depths". (Page 1 item 2)
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Perhaps when you apologise to me and those in your unwarrented swipe..I will not accept anything less.

And know this..up to this point I have not been cruel but given you fail to apologise you risk me being cruel ..do you wish to endure my cruelty.

Quantum Quack said:
Renewable energies as you know are all the rage at the moment and should draw some new members or at least viewers to sciforums.
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Good they can witness your evolving manhood as you apologise.

Quantum Quack said:
Guess you might end up famous... lol
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Now you insult me with trivial suggestions of fame..do you realise that I am a hermit and fame is repulsive to me.

I have a beard so folk will keep away from the strange guy.

Why all this mincing about..apologise to me and those you should..it would be much easier and holds the prospect of regaining all you have lost by your arrogant behaviour.

Alex
 
Xelasnave.1947 said:
Perhaps but now all that onlookers will observe is your arrogance but hopefully you making an apology that a decent man would ... Without seeing the pressure given to the degree that is warranted in your case.

Perhaps when you apologise to me and those in your unwarrented swipe..I will not accept anything less.

And know this..up to this point I have not been cruel but given you fail to apologise you risk me being cruel ..do you wish to endure my cruelty.



Good they can witness your evolving manhood as you apologise.



Now you insult me with trivial suggestions of fame..do you realise that I am a hermit and fame is repulsive to me.

I have a beard so folk will keep away from the strange guy.

Why all this mincing about..apologise to me and those you should..it would be much easier and holds the prospect of regaining all you have lost by your arrogant behaviour.

Alex
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well you are certainly famous to me...lol
 
Quantum Quack said:
well you are certainly famous to me...lol
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You don't know the meaning of the word famous...your preoccupation with fame suggests no more than it is your preoccupation as can be expected from someone incapable of apologising for a terrible nasty and unfounded slur.
Alex
 
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