Plants to communicate :D

Shadow1

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you may think it's stupid, or i'm bluffing, but not, i don't mean, by communicate, "talking or something like that" but what i meant is...well, you better read it your self

Plants chatter amongst themselves to spread information, a lot like humans and other animals, new research suggests.

A unique internal network apparently allows greens to warn each other against predators and potential enemies.

Many herbal plants such as strawberry, clover, reed and ground elder naturally form a set of connections to share information with each other through channels known as runners—horizontal stems that physically bond the plants like tubes or cables along the soil surface and underground. Though connected to vertical stems, runners eventually form new buds at the tips and ultimately form a network of plants.

“Network-like plants do not usually produce vertical stems but their stems lie flat on the ground and can hence be used as network infrastructure,” said researcher Josef Stuefer from the Radboud University in the Netherlands.

Stuefer and his team let loose caterpillars on white clover plants and watched them eat a single leaf on the network. Then a second set of caterpillars was allowed to choose between the damaged leaf—one that has been alerted to up its defense status—and leaves from an undamaged network.

Over the course of 20 trials, most or all of the approximately 15 caterpillars in each trial preferred the undamaged leaf to the leaf from a damaged network.

“The feeding caterpillars will be deterred and walk off to feed on other non-induced plants,” Stuefer told LiveScience. “[They] understand plant defense language very well as it is directed exactly to them.

Here is how it works: If one of the network plants is attacked by caterpillars, the other members of the network are warned via an internal signal to upgrade their chemical and mechanical resistance—making their leaves hard to chew on and less desirable. This system works to spread the information amongst the plants and to ward off caterpillars.

“This is an early warning system, very much like in military defense, but then more effective: each member of the network can receive the external signal of impending herbivore danger and transmit it to the other members of the network,” Stuefer said. The attacked leaf is lost. However, the remaining leaves are protected against predators.

The study is detailed in this month’s issue of the journal Oecologia.

According to the researchers, the principle of network transfer of substances is known for very many species, including numerous invasive plants such as bracken and reed and commercial crop species such as bamboo.

The downside to these connections is that viruses often use the runner infrastructure to quickly spread. They enter the plant via the leaves, find their way into the stems and are then passively transported to all the network members where they cause new infections.

“Many pathogens are host specific, meaning that they can infect only very specific plant species,” Stuefer said. “Their main challenge for survival is to find a new host after one has been infected. Such specialists have an especially big advantage from network infections as the physical connection between plants enables them to find genetically identical copies of the original host.”

This, Stuefer explains, is comparable to a computer virus specialized to infect computers with a certain version of the Windows operating system. “Such a virus spreads very fast if all terminals on a network have the correct Windows version while its spread is slowed down if there is variability in the systems,” he said.

the linky link :D :::: http://www.livescience.com/animals/071008-plants-communicate.html
 
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Of course plants communicate in many ways to help themselves as well as others around them.

yeah, but, i mean, how exactly do they communicate, also for example, those plants that eat bugs, how do they work, they don't have nurves or muscles
 
yeah, but, i mean, how exactly do they communicate, also for example, those plants that eat bugs, how do they work, they don't have nurves or muscles

People still do not understand fully how the trap closes. The Venus' Flytrap does not have a nervous system or any muscles or tendons. Scientists theorize that it moves from some type of fluid pressure activated by an actual electrical current that runs through each lobe.

http://www.botany.org/bsa/misc/carn.html
 
Most communication between plants is chemical. Some plants will actually emit the equivalent of airborne pheromones. Other nearby plants will detect these chemicals and respond. An alert to the presense of insect grazers is a common stimulus, which leads to nearby plants increasing production of natural insecticides.
 
Most communication between plants is chemical. Some plants will actually emit the equivalent of airborne pheromones. Other nearby plants will detect these chemicals and respond. An alert to the presense of insect grazers is a common stimulus, which leads to nearby plants increasing production of natural insecticides.

I read some where THC is probly a natural defence mechanism for hemp, i wonder if you pick on your crop will they produce more...

*Ponders* :D
 
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I read some where THC is probly a natural defence mechanism for hemp, i wonder if you pick on your crop will they produce more...

*Ponders* :D

do you know the film "Avatar" i recently readed an article, of a some kind of huge micro organismes( each one is about 2cm size) anyway, those communities, regerate each week, and they have like electric connection between them, threw them they share informations and they communicate with each other.
 
This is more good knowledge about plant communication, but the behavior is well documented.

Acacia trees will respond to a giraffe's grazing its leaves by pumping a nasty-tasting chemical into it's sap; but it also pumps a pheremone into the air, which causes nearby trees to produce the same nasty taste. Elm trees infected with dutch else disease produce a chemical warning signal to alert nearby elm trees, causing them to ramp up their immune response.

Consider your adrenaline system. If you are startled, electrical signals fire rapidly causing your adrenal gland to pump out adrenaline and secondary hormones in large volume. The actual feeling produced by that chemical is not electrically founded - the eye dilation, fast breath, increase heart beat, tingling fingers, etc are all caused by the chemical signal. The trees may not have a brain or nervous system to trigger or a consciousness to perceive its "adrenaline rush", but they do have similar responses to external stimuli.


As for venus flytraps, the botany.org link is not wrong, however a paper published last year (I think in Science, though I can't find it at the moment) went a long way to uncovering the mechanisms of the trap itself. The basic concept comes from an older paper, published back in ~1989. I hope I'm not missing anything, but here's the summary I remember:
1) Cells inside the trap (a modified leaf) are heavily compressed, while others are left very dehydrated. This imbalance of turgor pressure keeps the trap open - the trap itself is built such that it is closed by default.
2) The trigger hairs are connected to a collection of cells which act as ion-holding agents.(possible potassium?? I don't remember)
3) If a hair is triggered, the physical movement causes a release of the ions being held. This ion collection is slowly then rebuilt over the next few minutes via active transport.
4) If the same hair is triggered a second time, more of the ions are released, exhausting its already depleted ion concentration.
5) Once the ions levels are low enough, a signal is sent which causes the water to be released from the highly pressurized cells, causing the trap to close most of the way very quickly.
6) An ATP-driven process then does two things - produce digestive juices and begin pumping water back into the trap. At first, the water fills the previously dry cells, causing the trap to shut even tighter. After a few days, the water begins to fill the initially pressurized cell, eventually forcing the trap back open.

This process is actually very damaging to the trap mechanism, and can only be activated a handful of times before the trap dies and is replaced.
 
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You mean like something out of Avatar?

uuuh, i meant it's kidna like the film avatar, where everything is connected to each other, and that's the truth on earth, but effcorse not like that sci-fiction

but you know that we still don't know anything about all the organisms on earth? we only know about 1 millions species;, and there's about 13 millions other undiscovered species on earth!! and as you see, we never thoght there's life in deep sea, but look today, it's crowling down there, and we still don't know anything about it!!
 
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