I am an Orange Catholic, I was wondering, if any others here who share the faith of Galactophasic Determinism? Or would anyone wish to ask questions or discuss the religion?
Definetly.... Still hoping they'll come out with whatever they can put together of **** 7.Prince_James said:Invert:
Agreed. I wish he had actually composed an O.C. Bible. Think he would have he didn't die in the 80's?
"Thou shalt not create a machine in the likeness of a man's mind"
Wouldn't any machine (including any computer, washing machine, even a car) be a replacement of man in one sense or another, in that it takes a task performed by man's effort and will and does it for him?Prince_James said:James R.
Just as the Bene Gesserit, and the God-Emperor himself, I believe the commandments forbid only such computers which are artificially intelligent.
Wouldn't any machine (including any computer, washing machine, even a car) be a replacement of man in one sense or another, in that it takes a task performed by man's effort and will and does it for him?
Wouldn't any machine (including any computer, washing machine, even a car) be a replacement of man in one sense or another, in that it takes a task performed by man's effort and will and does it for him?
Or would that be Fundamentalist Orange Catholocism?
I don't have the time to read the link now, so I don't know if this is covered...
Where does the name "Orange" derrive from?
Is this a religion in the Dune books?
I forget if the O.C. Doctrine was made before or after the Butlerian Jihad (or during) but the effect of being slaves to the machines for generations is readily apparent in many of the ideas espoused in the religion.
However, I disagree with bringing in the God Emperor in a way which would legitimize the use of computers. Leto was a 'heretic' and only used religion as another method to control the masses. He broke many of the precepts of the Butlerian Jihad with various machines he used. Machines which pushed the bounds of 'thinking machine.'
Leto was above commandments. He had prophecy and thus was not worried about his machines getting out of his control. He had other machines on his mind. Machines that are yet to show themselves.... (I HOPE that the last installment isn't a complete waste of time. Brian is a fucking numbskull. The prequels have so many serious problems that it shows that he has little idea what the main concepts of the series were.)
Anyway. The problem with the OC is that it is also a dogmatic religion and negates the truth of humans. The adaptive power that every human contains within him. Leto held humanity for 3500 years on his Golden Path. Leto's Peace. He caused that adaptive instinct to seethe inside its captivity. He did this purposefully. Pulling back the strings of the bow that was released in the Scattering upon his death.
I wonder what would happen in a crossover between Asimov's universe and Herbert's? What would Leto think of R. Daneel?
Naomi Chumpsky.
Ha!
Wanna bet on which side of the left/right divide the author of this page falls?