O'Neill Full-o-Shit

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thecurly1

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http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/005628.php

Granted this blog is conservative, but the links it uses to showcase O'Neill and Suskind's warping of the truth (lying) are unbiased.

The documents were Energy Dept. (not DoD) docs on energy resources. Remember we were Iraq's number one buyer of oil, so its not unlikely we'd be looking at their oil output, especially if they got rid of sanctions. Docs exist for Saudi Arabia and UAE too... Bush wasn't going to invade them.
 
As soon as I heard about O'neil's allegations I knew the guy was in for it. Whosoever dares to criticize our fearless leader is automatically a liar, crazy, or both. Indeed, the reprisals against O'neil (i.e. the Justice Dept. Investigation) have already begun.

Michael
 
Yes O'neil who was privy to the upper echelons of the US government, the same guy who was on the national security concil just loves to lie let me tell you. He was there for 2 years, he knew exactly what happened, and this censorhip sponsered by that overtly bias website is laughable on the verge of stalinist. *YAWN*
 
That's right Undecided, and earlier in his administration, Bush himself described O'neil as a "straightshooter."

Does anyone suppose the Bush administration would have launched this investigation of O'neil's use of documents if O'neil's book had instead praised and supported Bush?

Michael
 
It is rather odd to me that this man would be so critical of the Bush administration at this time. It is even more odd that he tells all this 2 years after he left his office and just in time for the democrates to use it against Bush for their presidental campaigns. Perhaps he was paid quite a bit to write this rubbish by the supporters of those who are running on the democratic tickets for president? :bugeye:
 
Cosmic,

Are you sure we're talking about the same guy? The Paul O'Neil I'm talking about is a filthy-rich old former CEO and Chairman of the Alcoa Aluminum Company. The man I'm talking about used to serve with Cheney as directors of the conservative American Enterprise Institute think-tank.

Does it seem likely that this rich old man would toss aside his ideology, his former friends, as well as his personal integrity for a quick payout in cash?

http://usinfo.state.gov/topical/econ/profiles/oneil.htm

Regards,
Michael
 
Yes cosmic... its almost as if some one, or some sort of conspiracy now came begging for his information... almost as if some sort of 'author' was writing a 'book' and decided to 'interview' him and found him 'enthusiastic' about talking about his former bosses. Its all terribly shady I'm sure.
 
Beautifull! The defence is that the pre 9-11 plans were part of a broader package wich included scenarios for saoudi arabia and the united emirates as well (they gonna love that overthere!)

Like a bankrobber rejecting premeditation by claiming he gots a stash full of other "hypothetical" criminal plans, ....beautifull, I must visit that blog more often, for a good laugh that is.

Also the fact that these "exploration" or should I say explotation plans where supposedly not from the Pentagon but from horsewhisperer Dick Cheneys desk doesn't make things much better, it begs the question just who is in charge of the usa?

But indeed, it's remarkable that O'Neil is spouting his mud at this timing, who know, maybe the israelis have decided the next president must be a democrate and want to get rid of bush so that the roadmap can go back to the drawing board again and again and again :)
 
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I would say "told you so", but I don't think I posted this stuff here last year (only in different forums). There were documents released in 2002/2003 showing alot of this stuff. This isn't news as much as it is verification. The pipeline through Afganistan to avoid Russian taxes on oil going through its ports, the refinery in Saudi now mainly financed by Bank of America last I heard...
There is alot of stuff going on over there, and only a small fraction has to do with freedom for those who live there.
 
Greg Thielman, former director at the state department has now backed up O'Neill's statements on BBC news radio.
 
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"O'neill Full-o-shit"?
Bush is a no-good shit.
400+ dead and they won't release how many American's that are maimed and injured.
Fuck that smug bastard.
 
You know, old cronies are still human beigns.

It's entirely possible that after his years of pillage and plunder, he finally hit the wall. If you're a decent human being lost in illusions you've never known to escape from--e.g. if you're trapped in a cave ... oh, wait, so if you wake up in the Matrix . . . . :rolleyes:

At any rate, what's the list? General Anthony Zinni? General Wesley Clark? Secretary O'Neill ....?

I actually find this related to problematic statements by Albright and Dean about conspiracies. Look, just like the Confederate pickup truck shotgun voter, or whatever, Dean simply played openly to a part of the audience that is marginalized by the fact that it is never directly addressed. Yes, people want the votes--need the votes--of shotgun-toting confederates and paranoid conspiracy theorists. You know, Dean would have done better to openly duck the question, but he was prompted. If he shouldn't be playing to that crowd, should anyone really be asking him to? The GOP response to ridicule Dean will cost them. There's a lot of people out there that believe something is amiss about the story we hear about 9/11, and such a dismissive response by the GOP will alienate many of those folks, actually drive them to the Dean camp if he gets the ticket for November.

Likewise, cracks about book reviews won't cut it. I think pundits racing to criticize O'Neill as a disgruntled former employee or some dude chasing a buck are simply refusing to consider the fact that O'Neill is, in the end, a human being. If O'Neill is full of shit, perhaps that's the point. He had his fill. He can't keep selling the cause. Every good soldier stops at some point or else he isn't a good soldier. "Just following orders," didn't cut it at Nuremberg, and O'Neill is of an age to be acutely aware of this fact.

Let's go Reaganesque for a moment and cast this as a second- or third-tier comedy from the 1980s. O'Neill would be played by that dude who played the psychiatrist in the Terminator flicks, who also did time on ... Growing Pains, I think, as a high school principal. He would be the villain who flinches and squirms at the end. "No, boss. This isn't what we signed up for. You didn't say anything about this necessity. This is too much. I'm out."

And remember, in this day and age, "Honor among thieves," includes the killer book deal to tell all.
 
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