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Now here is a truly stupid remark by Hans following some facts given by me:

[Me:] You know how homeopathic medicines enter the the homeopathic pharmacopia and materia medica ["materials of medicine"]?

Doubted.

I will be submitting one in about a year.

I doubt that you have the slightest idea how that happens.

No doubt you mean how allopathics enter the environment of allopathic medical practice.

[Hans:] Exactly. I don't give a hoot about how it enters the homeopathic system. YOU are whining about not being recignized by the medical establishment [No, I am not; I 100% reject quackery and am totally opposed to the mass murder of allopathic medicine, you very ignorant and exceedingly presumptuous man.] and I am telling you how you could be. This is entirely hypothetical, of course, since it would require your medicines to work .

[Me:] We do not care since they will forever be skull-and-crossbones drugs from the Dark Ages.

[Hans:] Translation: We will not attempt this because we will surely fail.

Wrongo!

Your quackery cannot evaluate homeopathic therapeutics because you still do not have the slightest idea how to cure and think it can be done according to allopathic ideas of diseases.

We do not need your say so to cure anyway.

Don't you get it yet: you and your quacks have no authority over homeotherapeutics.

We do, however, wonder why so few of you blow your ignorant brains out because your evil therapies, as you say, constantly "fail" and make you and your medical heros nothing more than killers.

Do the world a favor and self-prove crude arsenic.
 
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Tim says to Hans:

"wish(ing) death upon anybody" is only Albert's way of saying he likes you.

That's actually true, but I'm not sure I've ever explained it to Tim.

People who take part in and even tacitly support the evil murders of allopathic medicine are bottomless karmic pits (karma means "carryover"), and as such they are destined for horrible reincarnation restrictions the longer they live in such vile ignorance.

The fact that I, however, add that they are destined for the same ghastly agonal, horrendously horrible, premature iatrogenic death in allopathic hands after prolonged iatrogenic suffering that they wish and force upon others only has to do with my sense of social justice for such murderers.

So I pray in all sincerity that it may happen to you soon for your own best good since you are quickly becoming hopelessly lost by opposing cures of unnecessary human suffering.

In arcane terms, better the loss of your present life than the loss of your Soul (i.e., your Egoic memories and identity) with which you threaten your existence as an eternal Ego ("Self").

So Hans et al., you'll soon hopefully regain that lost knowledge for your own best good by intense involvement with your local allopath as the bearer of good ultimate news for your Soul.
 
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I find my form of comedy quite hilarious (to me) you are also funny: reading your post is like watching a bum on the street preaching about how the world is flat.

how is the treatment going with that 9:30 am patient by the way?
 
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Here's a typically ignorant remark from allopathic fools.

Hans says:

Fine, I can accept that. I am sure there are serious people there who are genuinely working to help people. However, this makes their reluctance to test for efficiacy even more incomprehensible.

Yeah, that's right, dumb ars, there have been millions of homeopathic patients and hundreds of thousands of homeopathic physicians who lived their entire lives unable to tell whether or not homeotherapeutics was effective.

The incredible sophistries and machinations that constantly pour out of allopathic brains never cease to amaze me.

Good thing you will soon, at least hopefully, be exiting yours for the best good of all concerned.
 
WellCookedFetus, that brilliant drunk with his head screwed on backward most of the time when he even remembers to put it on or that he shouldn't wear the Bullwinkle head as often as he does, says:

I find my form of comedy quite hilarious (to me) you are also funny: reading your post is like watching a bum on the street preaching about how the world is flat.

how is the treatment going with that 9:30 am patient by the way?

Yeah, Bullwinkle's a hoot, pal, so I'm sure you do laugh hilariously while shaving, assuming you're old enough.

And I suppose that because this is the second time you've invoked Ptolemic geography, this means you'd be familiar with the Portolan Charts and the fact that Columbus is said to have convinced the Spanish Crown of his proposal with them, or not, right?

Or could it be that you are also ignorant of the pyramid prophecies and every other element of the Great Pyramid of Giza showing that the Hermetic builders of the structure possessed knowledge equaling and even exceeding our own?

Or do we have it that great Minds like yours are given to ignore the archeological evidence of the Americas and still hold that the Sumerian Civilization was the first one?

Or should we assume that you still believe there was a Big Bang even though inadvertently forced to cobwebs when confirmation of the explanation for the red shift at the time of the formation of the absurdity appeared on p. 32 of the Jan. '99 issue of SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN?

Gee, how many points of ignorance will we find in your brain?

I suspect it is enormous.
 
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Proof and evidence can make me concede but words will never hurt me. So Hahnemannian there is nothing you have said so far that has even made me think in your claims favor.

by the way all those claims you brought up in your last post how do that relate to homeopathy? because they don't seem like they have any connection, and a ad hominem at best against me.
 
We want evidence of homeopathy working, No more stalling!

How about:
Group A: believe and use homeopathic treatments
Group B: believe and use standard medical treatments

Who live longer? Who dies more of what?

Now real doctors generally keep records, which is why stats on treated and untreated patients are abound. You could show us a study that compares the 2 groups. Group B's stats are public knowledge. Where's the stats of Group A? All we've seen are claims. All your posts are begining to remind me of Dyanetics. Lots of claims, no substance.

We want evidence of homeopathy working, No more stalling!

P.S. - I would also like to point out that Scientific America is generally 'dumbed down', and because of this it leads to alot of people thinking they know what they are talking about... when they don't. It is not the place to look when you want to actually understand something indepth.
 
We want evidence of homeopathy working, No more stalling!
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WellCookedFetus asks a question typically ignorant for allopaths and their supporters:

Proof and evidence can make me concede but words will never hurt me. So Hahnemannian there is nothing you have said so far that has even made me think in your claims favor.

by the way all those claims you brought up in your last post how do that relate to homeopathy? because they don't seem like they have any connection, and a ad hominem at best against me.

Well, gee, golly, Bullwinkle-head, do you think it could have to do with the fact that the true physician is to be "no stranger to everything else important for man as a citizen of the world to know," as Hahnemann so apply put in his reply to a German prince asking his advice as to who is the best physician in the world in order to cure raging insanity in Duke Klockenbring of Hanover (pseudonym)?

That's found on p. 241 of THE LESSER WRITINGS OF SAMUEL HAHNEMANN, and the cure of the duke by Hahnemann is found on the subsequent pages.

Incidentally, not only did Hahnemann demonstrate in that first published case report of homeopathy that we cure insanity, and not only did we thus become eternal friends and prescribers of the Royals, but Hahnemann reformed psychiatric treatment that Pinel got wind of and got credit for even though it was Hahnemann who did that.

And another few reasons come to mind too.

It seems that people who support allopathic medicine invariably have about everything else wrong too, so I take it for granted that you are no exception and sought to demonstrate the extent of your abject ignorance in just a few examples.

It's interesting how it seems to take no reflection whatsoever to accept allopathic theory and practice; it really only takes blind acquiescene to authority demonstrative of the inability to think either clearly or for oneself as a member of the sheepish masses constituting 90% of humanity.

And the only people who could possibly accept the total illogic of allopathic assumptions and conclusions are those who are invariably easily hypnotized and thus show those effects of conditioned-reflex brain reactions in myriad word-associations of the brainwashed.

So that means you are quite easily hypnotized and thus are, as I keep trying to tell you foolish people, destined for that now famous allopathic death in agonal suffering, horror for witnesses and prematurity after lots of previous suffering.

That is the destiny that hypnosis forces on your kind.

It's possible to disintegrate those conditionings, but the person seems to have to first be able to think clearly and for themselves and then want to be freed of such brain-control features of their consciousness, and it appears that homeopathic cure is usually a prerequisite to that since such corrections of thinking are one of the most elegant effects of cure of which allopaths and their supporters are totally incapable of even conceiving.

So I guess you have to be other than brain dead and ignorant to grasp the interrelationship between a defensible personal philosophy and good health since that fouled up thinking you engage in invariably disorders your etheric pattern and thus your physical organism in turn.

Are you able to screw your head on tight enough to grasp that one, pal?
 
You seem to misunderstand

We want evidence of homeopathy working, No more stalling!

No more 'it worked in this one case'. The study I suggested earlier would help. I'm sure any true doctor, who know millions were dying because of incorrect medicine, would have keep enough records to prove that their patients live substantially longer, and made a report out of it.
 
WellCookedFetus and Persol say:

We want evidence of homeopathy working, No more stalling!

Then go get it, you lazy morons.

Nobody's keeping you from doing so except you.

Stop stalling, you dumb arses; quit being lazy and go get the evidence, fools.

How's that since nobody is keeping you from being scientists but you?

Or better yet; go become a permanent allopathic statistic.

That would be better for all concerned since you don't care one whit about disintegrating unnecessary human suffering and are pretty clearly total wastes of space who will not be missed.
 
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We want evidence of homeopathy working, No more stalling!

If you have it, it would be fairly easy to provide a statistical proof of homeopathy and a link to the study. If you feel you are not up to the standard, then just say so.

If homeopathy proves to be better... great! However, you can't expect anybody to risk their lives on your words, especially when they sound so hateful.
 
Persol says:


you can't expect anybody to risk their lives on your words, especially when they sound so hateful.

I don't have to ask for patients, you presumptuous and ridiculously ignorant fool, for every cured patient sends me dozens every year.

And I react to people in kind as they treat me out of a sense of justice, which is obviously totally deficient in you and your kind out of the abject ignorance but misguided sincerity to support allopathic medicine.

Besides, I am not here to supply evidence.

I'm here in search of scientists to help resolve a centuries-old enigma of homeopathic pharmacology.

Know any scientists?

I haven't yet met any here, just presumptuous, allopathically brainwashed, bottomless karmic pits who love sophistries destined for a much-deserved allopathic death that couldn't come too soon for their own best good and that of everyone they influence.

Go be a scientist.

It's easily done, and the literature is not kept secret.

And we certainly need fools with nothing better to do in order to collect and compile such data for your kind, so go collect and compile it and be a hero for once in your lives.

But try to figure out what is homeopathy and what is pseudo-homeopathy and allopathy first, and then try to first resolve what symptoms and diseases arise from allopathic therapeutics or you will be forever flawed in your results.

Think that is easy?

Oh yes; I forgot that's apparently impossible for you.

Oh well; my best advice is for you to go become an allopathic statistic really soon, for that sounds like the best thing you could do.

The world really needs that.
 
Sorry Hahnemannian but we are not the ones fighting for homeopathy. This is not allopathic medicine thread this is homeopathy thread; you need to prove your case to us not the other way around. Since you can't provide the evidence to us here, then you have nothing to say! I even did look up evidence and good evidence to, but you rejected it, stupid! You can rant all you want it does not help your cause one bit unless you give us proof, you should have learn that by now since you have got nowhere with anyone on this thread. YOU HAVE LOST, WE WIN!

Come on Persol lets not waste our time on this foolish loser, he will never learn and this thread has taught him nothing. If Hahnemannian really wanted to get people to believe him and study his cause then he would have present proof right on the first post and said "look this stuff works, here is the proof!" but no he is a fool.
 
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But I though we wanted evidence of homeopathy working, No more stalling!

Ah shucks, was worth a try. I guess you can't drink from an empty glass.
 
Here's Persol with a really clever remark:

P.S. - I would also like to point out that Scientific America is generally 'dumbed down', and because of this it leads to alot of people thinking they know what they are talking about... when they don't. It is not the place to look when you want to actually understand something indepth.

The explanation for the red shift of photons -- upon which stands as the basic erroneous assumption almost the whole of the wrong conclusion called the Big-Bang Theory and its ancillary construct of a supposedly inflationarily expanding universe -- was supplied in the 1970s at the origins of the stupid notion: photos lose energy to the surrounding space while traveling the vast intergalactic distances.

It is the simple explantion dismissed when it was put forward.

Then, in 1999, a scientist inadvertently showed how preposterous the notion of a Big Bang is by stating for the record that cosmic rays "lose energy" to the cosmic microwave background radiation, a mechanism that would be the same for all quantum particles but which was not admitted to in the 1970s.

So, yeah, you can dismiss it off hand like that and therdby again demonstrate ignorant prejudices just like you do about everything else.

How about the Great Pyramid of Giza, little man?

Think all of the data about it is just coincidental?

And how did a bunch of primitives determine the Pyramid inch, which is precisely 1/500,000,000th the polar diameter of the earth, from the Equator when the Equatorial Bulge would have made that impossible?

And how do you justify sustaining the hyper-ignorance of Continental-Drift Theory in the face of Einstein having acquiesced to Charles Hapgood's data sufficient to have written the Forward to PATH OF THE POLE?

There are several hundred questions contained in the data of that book exposing the ignorance of such a stupid view, so explain that one.

I love to see the extent of sophistries of allopathic Minds, so please show us all how ignorant you are in just this sample of basic erroneous assumptions and thus sophostries ("specious logic") you've embraced.

Where did the Egyptians come from since they appear on the historical scene already civilized without a period of progress?

Egyptologists somehow get away with ignoring that question, and all academic types somehow miss it too, so explain that one, pal.

The same question also arises about the Harappan Culture of the Indus Valley properly called the ancient Rama Empire.

Explain Ivar Zapp's findings about the Americans.

Explain the Portolan charts.

Then explain how you manage to also dismiss all of the evidence of homeopathy, including the 10 easily proven natural Laws of Medicine.

I just love your endless sophistries.

Let's see all of the in motion again.

Show us wonderfully ignorant "scientific" Minds at work.

It's very entertaining.
 
Nice try attempting to troll and change the subject but...

We want evidence of homeopathy working, No more stalling!
 
WellCookedFetus again tiresomely says:

you need to prove your case to us not the other way around.

And that has been done for 213 years, but you refuse to examine it.

Not our fault that you experts at sophistries refuse to be scientists; it's yours.

Go get your precious evidence.

I engage in applied science, not the play science of experimental evidence and manipulation of data by clever erroneous assumptions that corrupt Galileo's wonderful scientific method; you do that.

So go get those numbers.

Some of it already exists in the literature, I'm sure.

So go dig it up if it is so precious to you.

And exactly how will you do this, though?

You say that there are pretty black and white numbers, right?

But we live in an environment of total allopathic control of therapeutics in the U.S. and Europe such that few people never suffer allopathic therapeutics and all have been vaccinated.

So how could you prove your assertion of something being easily demonstrated by mortality statistics when insurance companies only pay for allopathic treatment in the U.S. and in most European countries?

And you just ignore the whole clinical record of homeopathy, right?

The statistics from the 19th century when epidemics raged and homeopaths singularly cured them are dismissed, right?

And iatrogenic diseases are easily proven by statistics in your Mind because diseases are somehow very well identified phenomena, right?

Then there is the fact that you don't know anything whatsoever accurate about homeopathy and yet you think you could compile and correlate statistics, right?

Fine, go do it.

Who's stopping you from collecting such extraordinarily helpful statistics based upon totally erroneous assumptions about all five basic subjects of medical.

More power to you; go do it.

Homeopaths don't need them, and we are not interested in convincing anybody of these things.

You are asking questions that I'm asking and are making statements that I am correcting.

Did I ask you to ask questions?

I couldn't care less.

Mostly such activities are for others since your kind reek of sophistries and support a system of medicine that makes no secret of the fact that it has no cures for any viral, chronic or psychiatric conditions.

And most people have seen friends and loved ones killed by your buddies in allopathy and want to know why this happens to all of them the deeper they get involved in allopathic medicine.

Then they see people like you defending it and attacking homeopathy and ignoring the evidence you're supposed to examine and test if you're really scientists.

This status quo has gone on for over two centuries.

And this dialogue is part of the historical record too.

History will know your kind as the infamous ones.

What do I care how evil and ignorant you remain?

We find people to examine homeopathy and then become homeopaths from all of our efforts because they are ready for it.

This clearly does not mean you, but I don't care one whit.

I rather like permitting people like you to engender huge amounts of negative karma defending allopathic medicine, for it means you'll all the sooner exit this life and leave us in peace.

Keep it up.

This is easy to do.
 
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