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Karmashock said:
some how they're not starving... or if they are, then problem is solved right there.
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Yeah, starvation will solve the population problem. Our population is doubling every 40 years, and it won't continue. Natural limits and all.

Modern agriculture is the use of land to convert petroleum into food. less petroleum = less food. Terminal decline in petroleum prodiction = terminal decline in modern agricultural capabilities.

The GM food manufacturers like Monsanto and Syngenta are now saying that they have to genetically engineer food to feed the population or we're going to be in a major crisis.

So, we'll have to go back to organic farming. No big deal right? Wrong. The most food we can produce with traditional farming is for 2 billion people tops. That's not including famine, drought, nitrogen depletion due to fossil fuel farming, etc. It's going to take awhile to get the nitrogen back in the soil with legumes, and we're not doing it.

The Oil We Eat

Eating Fossil Fuels
 
The US has, for most of its history, been a net exporter of food. Perhaps other people will go hungry, and we'll of course send them what we can 'if the worst happens, and I doubt it will', but the US isn't going to starve.
 
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I have the whole book in .pdf and take screenshots of relevant sections.

You can download it here if you'd like to read it.

Here's an interesting article I came across today:

The Axis of Oil

China and India are locked in an increasingly aggressive wrangle with the United States over the world’s most critical economic commodity: oil. More than any other issue, this tussle will shape the economic, environmental and geopolitical future of these three countries, and the world.

China and India are increasingly competing with the United States to secure oil exploration rights in Africa, Southeast Asia, Central Asia and Latin America.

India has invested more than $3 billion in global exploration ventures and has said it will continue to spend $1 billion a year on more acquisitions. China, which has already invested about $15 billion in foreign oil fields, is expected to spend 10 times more over the next decade.

The motive, says Zheng Hongfei, an energy researcher at the Beijing Institute of Technology, is that “there is just not enough oil in the world” to cover China’s and India’s growing energy needs.
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Karmashock said:
They said as much about over population... which we all know isn't going to happen today...

BUT people 30 years ago were positive that it was...
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We are overpopulated today. The fact that it is not worse than it is, is precisley because the doomsayers you decry were able to have some effect upon government policies and individual choices.
 
The only viable alternative to war and starvation for population reduction in the third world countries in the one child policy, which the west have long redicued as human right abuse.
 
ck27 said:
Im not sure if their is any threads on this but on google if you search somethings on oil, humanity is heading into the stone ago within the next 30 years. Oil prices are sky rocketing, its getting harder to get oil as we run out. Cost of barrel oil is sky rocketing. Eventually we will run out and then what? Everything stops no cars, no electricity, billions loose jobs. Would it really be the end of civilization as we know it?
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There's a whole lot of research being put into renewable energy sources. I remember hearing not long time ago that a guy invented a solar power plant that gets more than the double amount of energy than the regular ones.

It is not hard to not depend on oil. The problem is that the richest people in the planet don't like that idea. Those people are rich because "we" "depend" on oil. It is of their best interest to prevent those technologies from being developed and put into practice. Even because those technologies would make energy very cheap, since the supply of energy would become endless. They want us to continue being their slaves.

As for the end of civilization.... I don't know about you, but I don't need oil to run my "engine".... :D
 
from what I've seen, wealth seems to stabilize populations... people tend to breed when they're poor and afraid.
 
being an american i think we should confiscate all the oil in the middle east. also, any kids in the 3rd world who are hungry will be adopted by catholics. life sentences for all criminals should be served on antarctica. death sentences should be executed immediately, by hanging.
 
It depends on how the wealth is distributed and what it is spent on. For example, you can argue that the UK population is getting too used to the easy life, given the lack of peopel joining the army, the booming sales of things to make your life easier, etc. But yet people are obviously so stabilised, they dont want to have children. Its better to spend the money on themselves. Or else millions more are putting off having a family because they cant afford it, despite the UK apperntly being wealthy and stable.

But in Saudi Arabia, much of the wealth is ocncentrated in the hands of the royal family. And the rest of the country has bred quite well the past few decades.
 
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