Are you responsible for going to hell?
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Oh hell!
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Are you responsible for going to hell?
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Ted Grant II
Registered Senior Member
Christians are perfectly aware that the Hell idea is no longer credible.
So, by a new revelation, they have modified the story.
Hell doesn't exist.
Instead, if you don't accept Jesus as your personal savior, then you suffer separation from God.
You get to stay outside the Pearly Gates.
You can see through the railings.
You can see how much fun the saved ones are having.
You can see all your dead pets and your Granny partying.
And they can see you.
But you can't go in.
For ever.
But God loves you.
And he needs money!
So, by a new revelation, they have modified the story.
Hell doesn't exist.
Instead, if you don't accept Jesus as your personal savior, then you suffer separation from God.
You get to stay outside the Pearly Gates.
You can see through the railings.
You can see how much fun the saved ones are having.
You can see all your dead pets and your Granny partying.
And they can see you.
But you can't go in.
For ever.
But God loves you.
And he needs money!
Seaman
Registered Member
There is no evidence for this nonsense.
God is cleverer than any human and knows the appropriate reward or punishment.
He doesn't need any help from you to work out what to do !
It doesn't matter what conditions you dream up, God will know !
the only reason we have a concept of hell is because we experience it. hell is here. here is hell.
i used to wonder why i was depressed before and i thought it was just because of something immediate going on in my life but i found out it was deeper-rooted.
the realization that even evil can exist at all, and even if there could or be a better place is only a partial alleviation or comfort, but not a real or true one.
if all these things can happen here, it can happen again. just like this universe came into existence. some may think it's okay but i have an existential problem knowing such horrible things can exist even if there is good, it doesn't change that. it doesn't change those who suffer in the past, present or future.
i find it unacceptable and even unbelievable and wrong in some absolute sense that it can exist at all. anywhere or in any capacity.
it gives me a sense that there is no real hope, there is no real saving grace, there is no real safety, there is no guarantee and there is no real good higher absolute authority, otherwise this wouldn't be possible or would happen. this realization is almost mindboggling to me.
i've come to the conclusion, the only heaven or even justice is nothing at all. no existence is true justice. nothing existing ever at all and at any time. this is the only ultimate truth that can be a solution.
I think, Ted Grant II, is banned.
When I was a kid I was under the impression that going to heaven meant going to church every day. That was my dad's idea of fun.
And there's no evidence for this nonsense.
sculptor
Valued Senior Member
Well then
Don't do it!
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Perhaps: Prayers, reverence and praise is/are the sustenance of GOD(s?).
If so: Then, with 7 billion people on this rock this GOD is fat enough and needs not even the smoke of your offering.
DaveC426913
Valued Senior Member
"I want from you that which is rightfully mine - your loyalty, your tribute, and your worship."
"I would have cherished you, cared for you. I would have loved you as a father loves his children. Did I ask so much?"
Apollo - Who Mourns for Adonais? StarTrek
Write4U
Valued Senior Member
All powerful but somehow can't handle money....
Write4U
Valued Senior Member
Woulda, coulda, shoulda, why didn't you?