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Sure they can. As soon as Israel gets out of Palestine's airspace/waterspace/groundspace and removes the 700 checkposts that prevent them from coming in

More excuses, SAM? ...LOL!

The Pals are simply content to try to blow up and kill Israelis instead of doing anything to help their people ....who, by your own account, can't feed, house and clothe themselves without Israeli help.

Hey, I have an idea ...instead of buying all those guns, ammo and explosives, use that same money to buy food and clothing. Wow, why didn't someone else think of that?! :D

Baron Max
 
More excuses, SAM? ...LOL!

The Pals are simply content to try to blow up and kill Israelis instead of doing anything to help their people ....who, by your own account, can't feed, house and clothe themselves without Israeli help.

Hey, I have an idea ...instead of buying all those guns, ammo and explosives, use that same money to buy food and clothing. Wow, why didn't someone else think of that?! :D

Baron Max

So tell me again why you need a gun. :)
 
So tell me again why you need a gun. :)
I will take a stab at the answer:

The Baron likes guns - not only are they well made precision tools they are powerful "equalizers" - (I don't think the Baron is in as good a shape as he once was.) Possibly the Baron has toyed with the idea, should he get some terminal disease that leads to a painful death that he may need one to avoid suffering. Perhaps he will do some "final good" as he see it before using the last bullet on himself - I.e. take a car trip into some poor neighborhood and shoot as many of the welfare bum’s kids as he can. That way their schools will not be so overcrowded.

Still speaking for the Baron:
SAM you should get a gun too. God knows there are an awful lot of starving kids in India that need to be helped out of their misery. Show a little fucking mercy before you checkout too.

Always glad to help you out Baron, both here with this post and in your final hour, if your courage should fail.
You can count on me.:D
 
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So tell me again why you need a gun.

Just because I want one and, more importantly, I can afford it.

But see, SAM, the Pals can't afford to feed or clothe themselves. They have virtually nothing, yet, for some reason, they use money to buy weapons and ammo when they could use that same money to feed and clothe their own people. See the difference?

Baron Max
 
Why do you want one?

Why does anyone want nice new toys?

If you could not afford it, you would not need one?

Huh??? If I couldn't afford food and clothing, I sure as hell wouldn't go out and buy guns and ammo!! Wouldn't food be a higher priority? Oh, sure it would ......except for the Palestinians. They'd rather have guns and ammo than food for their people. Nice, huh.

Baron Max
 
Why does anyone want nice new toys?



Huh??? If I couldn't afford food and clothing, I sure as hell wouldn't go out and buy guns and ammo!! Wouldn't food be a higher priority? Oh, sure it would ......except for the Palestinians. They'd rather have guns and ammo than food for their people. Nice, huh.

Baron Max

So if you were under military occupation by a foreign people, you'd not buy a gun? Seems unlike you Baron, I never thought you were the kind to lie down and let people walk all over you. I guess you don't believe in "Give me liberty or give me death", you'd rather crawl on your knees than live like a man.
 
Hi Baron:

I had a German luger once and admired it but I am not comfortable with pistols. I liked my single-shot, pump air rifle and killed quite a few squirrels with it even as a graduate student when living near Baltimore, but mainly as a break from my studies late at night would slip it under my coat and go into the alley behind the A&P with flash light tapped to it. I was a good shot with it and am sure I hit at least a dozen rats but they so dam tough that they scampered into some hole denying me the pleasure of a confirmed kill.

I only fired my Lugar about a dozen times, into some wood stacked up against a concrete wall. (Never even bought any shells) I did not really enjoy shooting it. I got it from guy who had to leave JHU suddenly for only $25 and sold it a few years later for more than $150 as I recall. He did not want others to know he had it and trusted me. It was never registered. It was in perfect shape - the gun, the clip and something else, forget what, still had three matching serial numbers. (Perhaps a second clip or the leather holsters, if they have a serial number too?) I am sure it was originally an officer's gun and he too rarely used it. I probably let it go much too cheaply, but it came to me almost for free and I too wanted no record I ever owned it. I sold the gun for cash after a careful clean with oil and only touched it with medical gloves during and after that. - No papers; No prints.
 
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So if you were under military occupation by a foreign people, you'd not buy a gun?

Not if my family was starving to death and had no clothing or shelter. I'd do what was necessary to protect my family first. And I'd damned sure not do anything silly and ineffective against the occupiers if all it ever did, for over 60 years, was cause more problems for my own people.

Seems unlike you Baron, I never thought you were the kind to lie down and let people walk all over you. I guess you don't believe in "Give me liberty or give me death", you'd rather crawl on your knees than live like a man.

Easy words to say, SAM, not so easy to live by. And even harder to live by when your family is virtually starving to death because you've used all the money to buy guns and ammo instead of food.

No, SAM, one fights when there's some chance of success, otherwise all you're doing is pissing the enemy off. It's sorta' like standing around whacking a hornets nest with a stick ...you can, of course, keep whacking it with a stick and letting the hornet sting your friends and family, but it's not actually a wise approach to life, is it? So perhaps you should stop whacking the hornets nest for a while and see what the hornets do. And maybe, just maybe, the hornest will let you live in peace with them.

After 60 years of failed everything, perhaps a new approach would be better?

Baron Max
 
Looks like someone is an Arab-hating fanatical supporter of Zionism. Like that vulcan dude who supports Jewish supremacy, who keeps blaming the oppressed Arabs for everything.

Like the Nazis blamed the Jews, for being the wrong sort of people (non-Aryan); they thought they would do the Jews a favour (and themselves), by deporting them all to containment camps. This tactic was eagerly adopted by the neo-Nazi Zionist regime, the one that still holds the balance of power and uses illegal settlements with fanatical zealots in them to harass and oppress Palestinians.

They've had a good run though - the Nazis only had about 12 years before they got clobbered by 'democracy'. For some reason 'democracy' has been supporting the neo-Nazi state for the last 60 odd years?? I wonder what future historians will have to say, about the unquestioning support of an apartheid fascist regime for so long?
 
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Defense Minister Ehud Barak and British Foreign Secretary David Miliband on Monday toured the southern town of Sderot, which has been pounded by Palestinian militants' rocket fire in recent days.

"No country can accept long-term indiscriminate attacks from a foreign entity on its citizens, and Israel will also not accept it," said Barak. "We will act when the conditions are ripe and, when necessary, we will act with force."
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1038156.html

Hypocrites. They occupy the Palestinians by military force and have the audacity to whine about long term indiscriminate attacks on citizens. The entire state of Israel is a long term indiscriminate attack on the people of Palestine.
 
I wonder what future historians will have to say, about the unquestioning support of an apartheid fascist regime for so long?

Yeah, so do I.

Not if my family was starving to death and had no clothing or shelter. I'd do what was necessary to protect my family first. And I'd damned sure not do anything silly and ineffective against the occupiers if all it ever did, for over 60 years, was cause more problems for my own people.



Easy words to say, SAM, not so easy to live by. And even harder to live by when your family is virtually starving to death because you've used all the money to buy guns and ammo instead of food.

No, SAM, one fights when there's some chance of success, otherwise all you're doing is pissing the enemy off. It's sorta' like standing around whacking a hornets nest with a stick ...you can, of course, keep whacking it with a stick and letting the hornet sting your friends and family, but it's not actually a wise approach to life, is it? So perhaps you should stop whacking the hornets nest for a while and see what the hornets do. And maybe, just maybe, the hornest will let you live in peace with them.

After 60 years of failed everything, perhaps a new approach would be better?

Baron Max

Baron, you fight for the right to arm yourself under an elected government and without a state of war. I doubt under occupation you'd care less to be armed. You'd probably have an arsenal and be one of those terrorists we hear about. Considering how little you are bothered by torture and collateral damages, you'd probably surpass Hamas in your desire to rid yourself of the foreign occupiers in your land.
 
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Baron, you fight for the right to arm yourself under an elected government and without a state of war. ....., you'd probably surpass Hamas in your desire to rid yourself of the foreign occupiers in your land.

Not if my family and friends were starving to death. First things first, SAM, else all the weapons in the world wouldn't mean shit.

See? That's exactly where the extremist WANT their families ...in dire poverty and starvation ...so they can further their own propaganda and "excuse" their terrorist activities.

Baron Max
 
Ah they want to be occupied, that is why they fight for freedom from occupation by a military force in their lands. American "logic"
 
Ah they want to be occupied, ...

The Pals aren't "occupied" because they have no recognized nation!

They want their own people to starve in dire poverty because it gives them an excuse for their terrorist, extremist tactics against the Israelis.

Baron Max
 
The "Pals" have no country because they are occupied. That is what an occupation means. Its like the native Americans have no country because they are occupied. :)
 
No, SAM, "occupation" means that someone has "occupied" a legitimate nation. And you claim to be a scientist? :D

Baron Max

Ah, is that what the "Americans" came up with to justify taking native American lands?

Sadly for you:
Belligerent military occupation occurs when the control and authority over a territory passes to a hostile army. Individual or mass forcible transfers, as well as deportations of protected persons from occupied territory to the territory of the Occupying Power or to that of any other country, occupied or not, are prohibited, regardless of their motive. ... The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies.

Like the occupation of Guantanamo Bay

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_occupation
 
Ah, is that what the "Americans" came up with to justify taking native American lands?

The Native Americans did not "own" any land ...in fact, they believed that the land belong to everyone. So, the Americans took them at their word!

And everything would have been fine except the NAs resorted to terrorism. And the Americans did what the Israelis should learn to do ....we got rid of the terrorists.

Baron Max
 
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