Netanyahu aide: Israel using Collective Punishment on children of Gaza because parent


So what so what. are you that divorced from reality and humanity that you can say that, you've just so whated a crime against humanity, a freaking war crime. but that's right I forgot it jews doing and their victims are arabs palestinians so the law doesn't matter just Israel's wishes.
 
spidergoat said:
So it's time for Israel to find its own way in the world without US support.
spidergoat said:
Elections have consequences,
So do crimes like that. Israel has been coddled, protected from the consequences of its behavior, for too long.
 
So it's time for Israel to find its own way in the world without US support.

I don't think it would matter much longer any way.

The USA and The UK are in such a hole, that soon they will barely be able to support it's own.
 
Elections have consequences,
yeah the party that loses leaves power.
they should have thought of that before they voted.

So they should have voted for a corrupt party that sells them out? I know you feel all palestinians deserve to die because they want their rights but voting for a party that said they would secure them is no reason to kill children.

All actions have consequences. Funny how you think jews and Israel shouldn't suffer them.

Principle VI states,

"The crimes hereinafter set out are punishable as crimes under international law:

(a) Crimes against peace:

(i) Planning, preparation, initiation or waging of a war of aggression or a war in violation of international treaties, agreements or assurances;

(ii) Participation in a common plan or conspiracy for the accomplishment of any of the acts mentioned under (i).

(b) War crimes:

Violations of the laws or customs of war which include, but are not limited to, murder, ill-treatment or deportation of slave labor or for any other purpose of the civilian population of or in occupied territory; murder or ill-treatment of prisoners of war or persons on the Seas, killing of hostages, plunder of public or private property, wanton destruction of cities, towns, or villages, or devastation not justified by military necessity.

(c) Crimes against humanity:

Murder, extermination, enslavement, deportation and other inhumane acts done against any civilian population, or persecutions on political, racial, or religious grounds, when such acts are done or such persecutions are carried on in execution of or in connection with any crime against peace or any war crime."
I know you lack the humanity to care but what you support and go yeah about is quite simply the worst crimes a person can commit.
 
Elections have consequences, they should have thought of that before they voted.

I'm sure that you also believe 9/11 attacks were thus justified consequences. You know OBL uses democracy as a argument against attacking 'innocent Americans' :shrug:

Peace be unto you ;)
 
So what so what. are you that divorced from reality and humanity that you can say that, you've just so whated a crime against humanity, a freaking war crime. but that's right I forgot it jews doing and their victims are arabs palestinians so the law doesn't matter just Israel's wishes.

What's the crime?
 
Looks to me like the point the Israeli guy is trying to make is that the Palestinian children are suffering because their parents are perpetuating a war from within their own midst. Does a pretty crap job of getting the point across, though. As for spidergoat, please tell me you don't think the kids actually deserve to suffer for whatever the parents are doing. Say it ain't so!
 
What's the crime?

Principle VI states,

"The crimes hereinafter set out are punishable as crimes under international law:

(a) Crimes against peace:

(i) Planning, preparation, initiation or waging of a war of aggression or a war in violation of international treaties, agreements or assurances;

(ii) Participation in a common plan or conspiracy for the accomplishment of any of the acts mentioned under (i).

(b) War crimes:

Violations of the laws or customs of war which include, but are not limited to, murder, ill-treatment or deportation of slave labor or for any other purpose of the civilian population of or in occupied territory; murder or ill-treatment of prisoners of war or persons on the Seas, killing of hostages, plunder of public or private property, wanton destruction of cities, towns, or villages, or devastation not justified by military necessity.

(c) Crimes against humanity:

Murder, extermination, enslavement, deportation and other inhumane acts done against any civilian population, or persecutions on political, racial, or religious grounds, when such acts are done or such persecutions are carried on in execution of or in connection with any crime against peace or any war crime."
 
Looks to me like the point the Israeli guy is trying to make is that the Palestinian children are suffering because their parents are perpetuating a war from within their own midst. Does a pretty crap job of getting the point across, though. As for spidergoat, please tell me you don't think the kids actually deserve to suffer for whatever the parents are doing. Say it ain't so!

If the society deserves to suffer, then the kids will too. It's not as if the Israelis are condoning murder, just the limitation of goods to the terrorist regime and it's citizens.
 
electric said:
Oh boy now your going to point out their death camps and human ovens?
I point to the level of reasoning and argument visible throughout the defenders of Israel's behavior, and rest my case.
 
One can easily say the same thing about any sanctions, such as with Iran. Will the economy and therefore the children suffer? Probably.
 
spidergoat said:
One can easily say the same thing about any sanctions, such as with Iran.
If so, the same moral judgment would apply.

In particular, if the Iranians were herded into reservation areas and fenced in, enabling enforcement of the sanctions and freeing up land, water, other resources, for the imposer of the sanctions, then the equivalent moral judgment would seem reasonable.

But Israel has a unique record of action here, and has lost its moral standing more or less completely. It cannot survive like this in any admirable, or even supportable, form. Time to find out which way it is going to choose.
 
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