Muslims should broadcast Dutch anti-Islam film.
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The sign (bottom right) says :
"Sorry, We don't [ ]
products made in Denmark."
They could be slipping any word in there.
In Arabic it says "Fucking Sell".
Actually, I htink it says "No BreakfastPatsies pastries"
I think the Red Sign says "Are youPhlemish Finnish?"
Mish halaal.
Khalasni, sharmoota.
Actually, I htink it says "No Breakfast
I think the Red Sign says "Are you
Mish halaal.
Khalasni, sharmoota.
so you find it ok kadark said jews are parasites
shocking.
spocky, when did i say that????? pls retract this vile statement unless of course you can find a post where i have said or agreed with the statement.
pls stop trying to disparage me.
oh and btw you still havent explained what you mean by @knwoing too many muslims
Well, those videos occur already. Has it incited Israelis and Americans to murderous rampage? Should the Catholic authorities have responded to Luther with pillage and atrocity? (I know they did, but should they have?) The charge has been given and it is for others to decide what to do with it. 'Reform' would be a good suggestion. Or have a little introspection.
Do you actually think such videos encourage violence from Westerners? That strikes me as naive.
But in the name of geopolitical advantage (a game all nations play), not in the name of religious outrage or superiority.
Sock Puppy: "Do you actually think such videos encourage violence from Westerners?"
Didn't you ever notice how the culture-war rhetoric reaches highest levels in the USA right before new shock and awe? Brown people (overwhelmingly non-terrorist) die in tens of thousands in every cycle.
"That strikes me as naive."
It is naïve, considering how the disproportionate killing on either side of the insane "Global War on Terrorism/Islamofascism" incites terrorism.
Didn't you ever notice how the culture-war rhetoric reaches highest levels in the USA right before new shock and awe? Brown people (overwhelmingly non-terrorist) die in tens of thousands in every cycle.
"That strikes me as naive."
It is naïve, considering how the disproportionate killing on either side of the insane "Global War on Terrorism/Islamofascism" incites terrorism.
We have a state structure that exerts violence in our name.
SP: "But in the name of geopolitical advantage (a game all nations play), not in the name of religious outrage or superiority."
The USA is wrecking millions of lives and fortunes in the Mideast and Afghanistan, in the name of citizens like me, and you if you're USAmerican; in the name of US political superiority; and in the name of Manifest US/Israeli Destiny. There will be blowback. In fact, it's already arriving. If you think the fall of the Dollar and US economy is unrelated to our shameful foreign policy, and our national irresponsibility with our most defining international treaties and our own Constitution, then you have much to learn.
Which we all do, because I didn't protest enough before this trainwreck was set up with big obvious lies.
SP: "But in the name of geopolitical advantage (a game all nations play), not in the name of religious outrage or superiority."
The USA is wrecking millions of lives and fortunes in the Mideast and Afghanistan, in the name of citizens like me, and you if you're USAmerican; in the name of US political superiority; and in the name of Manifest US/Israeli Destiny. There will be blowback. In fact, it's already arriving. If you think the fall of the Dollar and US economy is unrelated to our shameful foreign policy, and our national irresponsibility with our most defining international treaties and our own Constitution, then you have much to learn.
Which we all do, because I didn't protest enough before this trainwreck was set up with big obvious lies.
Yes, but not because people insult God.
Yes, but as I said this is something all nations do and isn't religious in any specific way. Anyway, I'm not US American, or at least not in the sense that they might mean in South Carolina, or at least not yet. Might be soon though! Assuming that bloody H1B ever goes in. Buh.
I know, God forbid we bomb a country full of brown people. Doesn't matter that they flew airplanes into our buildings, and blow themselves up every day in markets. No, because they're brown, we're not allowed to. It's off-limits.
Believe it or not, I agree that we have no business waging war over there. But not just because Iraq has nothing to do whatsoever with terrorism. Actually, I don't want us over there because I know we're losing American lives every day in that hellhole for no good reason. Brute force won't end terrorism. Well, short of killing everyone, that is.
But enough bellyaching over how many brown people die, and how none of them deserve it. No, the citizens don't, but how about you point your accusatory finger at the extremist groups that did provoke us? Better yet, let's ask the fine citizens of the Middle East why they can't get their heads out of the asses long enough to create a stable peace in the region on their own.
Oh, that's right, we can't. We can ask those questions, because no one in that region can be held accountable. It's not allowed. Only the United States and its allies are accountable. Don't get me wrong, I think Bush should hang, but don't place all the blame on him. I mean, he's probably the dumbest President this country has ever had, but he wouldn't have had an excuse if he wasn't provoked.
What would the accusation be ? That they provoked us to kill a lot innocent people, destroy entire countries that had nothing to do with them, create networks of torture prisons, and put our military strategy and logistics in the hands of the major stockholders of Halliburton ?jdawg said:
Pretty damn effective strategy for wrecking us, if they actually planned it out that way.
To which they will respond: "Leave us alone and we will. We have before. " They might be wrong, of course - but there's no way to tell at the moment.jdawg said:
I completely agree with iceaura, so I'll just respond to other parts of your above post, JDawg:
"God forbid we bomb a country full of brown people. Doesn't matter that they flew airplanes into our buildings, and blow themselves up every day in markets. No, because they're brown, we're not allowed to. It's off-limits."
It's not off-limits, it's out of sight and out of mind, for most people I interact with in the USA. That doesn't mean that the pressure isn't building for more blowback, as the obscenely-disproportionate casualties, suffering, deprivations, insult, and anger mount.
"Brute force won't end terrorism. Well, short of killing everyone, that is."
That lesson still hasn't been adequately learned, judging by popular US media and sentiment. Neither has the lesson been learned to recognize incendiary propaganda. We in the USA will continue to be trapped in this downward juggernaut until we learn to better recognize and more assertively reject both military overkill (in Federal and New! Corporate packaging) and reactionary propaganda.
"God forbid we bomb a country full of brown people. Doesn't matter that they flew airplanes into our buildings, and blow themselves up every day in markets. No, because they're brown, we're not allowed to. It's off-limits."
It's not off-limits, it's out of sight and out of mind, for most people I interact with in the USA. That doesn't mean that the pressure isn't building for more blowback, as the obscenely-disproportionate casualties, suffering, deprivations, insult, and anger mount.
"Brute force won't end terrorism. Well, short of killing everyone, that is."
That lesson still hasn't been adequately learned, judging by popular US media and sentiment. Neither has the lesson been learned to recognize incendiary propaganda. We in the USA will continue to be trapped in this downward juggernaut until we learn to better recognize and more assertively reject both military overkill (in Federal and New! Corporate packaging) and reactionary propaganda.
The culture-war rhetoric reaches highest levels in the USA right before new shock and awe? Brown people (overwhelmingly non-terrorist) die in tens of thousands in every cycle.
Sock Puppy: "Yes, but not because people insult God."
Where manipulators encourage religion as the rallying-point of outrage, the effect is the same. "God" (at least in name) becomes prominent in the cycle. Invocations of God are as prominent in US society as in the Mideast, but the channels and their superficial prominences differ. Nobody gets elected in the USA without professing faith, and no culture-wars are waged without deep, if often subliminal religious undertones.
"But in the name of geopolitical advantage (a game all nations play), not in the name of religious outrage or superiority."
The USA is wrecking millions of lives and fortunes in the Mideast and Afghanistan, in the name of citizens like me- and in your name, if you're USAmerican.
"this is something all nations do and isn't religious in any specific way."
There is no other contemporary nation wreaking such sustained havoc, and as flagrantly as the USA today. On both "sides" of it (as distortingly framed, the surreal West vs. "Islamofascism" diorama) religion seems hopelessly entangled. It's ostensibly quieter on the USAmerican side. But in the Bible Belt for example, there is a lot of belligerence that is wrapped up in often unspoken, but powerful dogma about assumed US and Israeli righteousness, and about the inevitability and necessity of unprecedented bloodbaths in the Mideast. The present US Administration relied heavily on an evangelical base in order to consummate their quiet Putsch. Just because you don't hear fundamentalist USAmerican Christians chanting "God is Great" (& on Our Side, etc) loudly in the streets does not mean that they aren't passionately thinking it. USAmericans have an equal propensity for political manipulations of religion as do the most angered and turbulent Muslim nations of the world. We show it differently, but certainly not with any less violence.
Sock Puppy: "Yes, but not because people insult God."
Where manipulators encourage religion as the rallying-point of outrage, the effect is the same. "God" (at least in name) becomes prominent in the cycle. Invocations of God are as prominent in US society as in the Mideast, but the channels and their superficial prominences differ. Nobody gets elected in the USA without professing faith, and no culture-wars are waged without deep, if often subliminal religious undertones.
"But in the name of geopolitical advantage (a game all nations play), not in the name of religious outrage or superiority."
The USA is wrecking millions of lives and fortunes in the Mideast and Afghanistan, in the name of citizens like me- and in your name, if you're USAmerican.
"this is something all nations do and isn't religious in any specific way."
There is no other contemporary nation wreaking such sustained havoc, and as flagrantly as the USA today. On both "sides" of it (as distortingly framed, the surreal West vs. "Islamofascism" diorama) religion seems hopelessly entangled. It's ostensibly quieter on the USAmerican side. But in the Bible Belt for example, there is a lot of belligerence that is wrapped up in often unspoken, but powerful dogma about assumed US and Israeli righteousness, and about the inevitability and necessity of unprecedented bloodbaths in the Mideast. The present US Administration relied heavily on an evangelical base in order to consummate their quiet Putsch. Just because you don't hear fundamentalist USAmerican Christians chanting "God is Great" (& on Our Side, etc) loudly in the streets does not mean that they aren't passionately thinking it. USAmericans have an equal propensity for political manipulations of religion as do the most angered and turbulent Muslim nations of the world. We show it differently, but certainly not with any less violence.
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John99: "So you know what people are thinking?"
Not always- but often, yes I do. Especially when it comes to people I've lived among. If you listen especially carefully to plain-speaking people , it isn't hard to learn what they're thinking. Try it.
Not always- but often, yes I do. Especially when it comes to people I've lived among. If you listen especially carefully to plain-speaking people , it isn't hard to learn what they're thinking. Try it.
No, not in any sense that I'm aware of.