Muhammad's child bride Aisha, the book is on hold in the UK!!!!!!!

[vincent]

These are all current beliefs, sort of like beliefs in the Middle Ages that marriage was only between a man and a woman. Animals rape children all the time. They also kill the children of rivals without remorse.

I know of many animals that will take in other mothers babies as there own, & elephants who go to great lengths to protect eachothers offspring & show affection.

As for animals raping young offspring, do you think animals have the brain capacity of humans to know any better?
Are you comparing mohammed to these animals? because he seemed not to have the brain capacity to know any better either.

 

[S.A.M.]

You're the one who brought up animals. Apparently comprisons are only valid if they fit your theory

 

[John99]

I read books.

To answer your question, hell no! See post #94. I'm not saying it's right by our modern standards, but those are not applicable to the distant past. If all of society was OK with it, you can hardly call Mohammed a bad guy for doing it. He would be shocked that people today are allowed to be atheists or satanists, those people wouldn't last 2 seconds in his society.

You read books?

How do you know marrying 6-10 year old girls to middle aged men was fine with everyone?

No one back then would consider marriage and it's consequent activities as "harmful", even if the bride were rather young

So you are saying you for some reason are different than ALL parents were back then.

Exactly what books are you reading that states this was common and everyone was just fine with it.

 

[vincent]

There is a Dutch political party dedicated to pedophilia who believe that age for sexual consent should be 12 if not less than 12. There are also groups like NAMBLA [North American Man Boy Love Association] who believe that men should be legally permitted to love boys.

There is a big difference between 7 & 12, a 12 year old girl is pregnant in the uk this week, do you feel mohammed being prophet & all was right to set a example to islam by having sex with a a baby girl,
would you consider marrying a 7 year old boy?
If not why?

If your answer is no, then you my friend are worshipping a false prophet.............
If you say yes then you really need to seek medical help urgently>>>>>>>>>>

 

[S.A.M.]

First of all there are conflicting Hadiths on Ayeshas age. She could have been anywhere from new born to 18. The Hijra calendar was only instituted much after the prophets death, according to the Gregorian calendar, which does not match the Islamic one on the approximate date of the Prophets Hijra, and even his date and year of death is considered to be plus and minus a few years. To rely on oral accuracy of age at a time when people did not even have a calendar is rather foolish. More so when the oral traditions are from 200 to 800 years after the Prophets death.

 

[vincent]

You're the one who brought up animals. Apparently comprisons are only valid if they fit your theory

I brought up animals & mentioned the word instinctive, animals brains cant be compared with humans.

 

[vincent]

First of all there are conflicting Hadiths on Ayeshas age. She could have been anywhere from new born to 18. The Hijra calendar was only instituted much after the prophets death, according to the Gregorian calendar, which does not match the Islamic one on the approximate date of the Prophets Hijra, and even his date and year of death is considered to be plus and minus a few years. To rely on oral accuracy of age at a time when people did not even have a calendar is rather foolish. More so when the oral traditions are from 200 to 800 years after the Prophets death.

Answer my question would you marry a 7year old boy?
If you see nothing wrong with mohammed marrying a 7year old girl, then you have no problem with having sex with a 7 year old boy even if you cant marry him?


Or is your brain telling you its morally wrong & sick?
I wonder, indeed i ponder why mohammeds brain did not think it was morally wrong & sick.........................

 

[S.A.M.]

My brain is telling me that if between a range of 0-18, I prefer to choose 7, that says something very bad about me.

 

[John99]

First of all there are conflicting Hadiths on Ayeshas age. She could have been anywhere from new born to 18. The Hijra calendar was only instituted much after the prophets death, according to the Gregorian calendar, which does not match the Islamic one on the approximate date of the Prophets Hijra, and even his date and year of death is considered to be plus and minus a few years. To rely on oral accuracy of age at a time when people did not even have a calendar is rather foolish. More so when the oral traditions are from 200 to 800 years after the Prophets death.

That is part of Sharia.

http://womenagainstshariah.blogspot.com/2008/09/schools-advocating-child-marriage-shut.html

 

[S.A.M.]

Sharia means consensus. Thats a nonsensical statement. This is what happens when people fling around words in a language they don't bother to learn.

It is derived from the word shura or consultation, the means by which pre-Islamic tribes arrived at major decisions

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shura

 

[vincent]

My brain is telling me that if between a range of 0-18, I prefer to choose 7, that says something very bad about me.

Well then that makes mohammed a false prophet, if you know the difference between right and wrong he did not, & prophets dont make mistakes.

 

[John99]

Words mean nothing.

 

[Captain Kremmen]

Is this the worst thread ever?

 

[John99]

Too bad SAM, if SAM is female, was not married off at 7.

 

[John99]

Is this the worst thread ever?

Not much worse than many others. Why?

 

[S.A.M.]

Well then that makes mohammed a false prophet, if you know the difference between right and wrong he did not, & prophets dont make mistakes.

No, but people do. Since there are several contradictions in the Hadiths on Ayeshas age and the marriage was arranged by her father and Mohammed's friend and mentor Abu Bakr Siddiq [Siddiq being a title meaning, the honest], it would be ridiculous to presume that there was anything wrong with what they did. Also considering that Ayesha was a commander of the Sunnis and the Prophet died in her arms, its hardly possible that she was a kid [which she would be by your calculations]

 

[Buffalo Roam]

No, but people do. Since there are several contradictions in the Hadiths on Ayeshas age and the marriage was arranged by her father and Mohammed's friend and mentor Abu Bakr Siddiq [Siddiq being a title meaning, the honest], it would be ridiculous to presume that there was anything wrong with what they did. Also considering that Ayesha was a commander of the Sunnis and the Prophet died in her arms, its hardly possible that she was a kid [which she would be by your calculations]

Exactly, Mohammad said it was OK, the Angle Gabriel told him it was OK, he was after all the Prophet of God and anything he decided was OK was Ok, even porking a 7 year old little girl, and let dress up the Prophets pedophilia with some legality, he married a 7 year old girl.

Seem that was a lot of things that Mohammad said Gabriel told him were OK, murder, rape, torture, if it was done in the name of Jihad, and Mohammad approved it was OK, even pedophilia, and lets make even more OK call it a marriage, and pass it on down to the Generations.

 

[S.A.M.]

You're kidding me. You think a 90 year old uncle pimping his 11 year old preteen niece/wife to "angels" had a virgin birth and you're passing judgment on Mohammed? You think the kid she supposedly had and who disappeared till he was 35, is God and you're passing judgment on Mohammed? You have an incestuous preteen who was sleeping around while married to her aged uncle as the mother of God, so you better think before you speak. Especially when your churches and armies are filled with dicks in kiddy butts.

 

[Michael]

Mohammed is the only prophet whose history is known with any veracity.

That's the biggest bunch of bullshit I have ever heard. There are no contemporary writings about Mohammad with the exception of 1 paragraph in a Xian Greek text referring to a war lord which may be Mohammad or may not be.

If you have something else, feel free to post it.

Lets compare Mohammad with a few other Prophets:

- 5000 years before Mohammad the Prophets ruled over Egypt - The Pharaohs, their life's accomplishments were actually etched in stone AT THE TIME. We can read these today, therefor they haven't changed.

- Compare with the contemporary writings of the Prophet Bahá'u'lláh's life.

- The entire life of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Jr. is very well known.

- The Prophet Ron Hubbard's life has been written about in tons of books.


Keep drinking the Kool Aid,
Michael

 

[S.A.M.]

I was quoting Patricia Crone. But she's talked about people like you too, in that article you "read".