Most Godless Nation?
- Thread starter Carcano
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Damn Canada is pretty high, I wouldn't have thought it. Most people keep it to themselves unless they are Jehovah Witnesses.
Most of us in Canada are frankly shocked how many times "God bless America" get's said by U.S politicians. Weird.
Carcano
Valued Senior Member
Oh thanks...so thats Russia, Iceland, Finland, Sweden, Estonia, Norway.
What is it about the Baltic states?
Should we expect to see a higher crime rate in these regions...due to the inherent lack of fundamental ethics?
Why would Russia have a high crime rate...but not Finland?
What is it about the Baltic states?
Should we expect to see a higher crime rate in these regions...due to the inherent lack of fundamental ethics?
Why would Russia have a high crime rate...but not Finland?
Leo Volont
Registered Senior Member
Well, the question should not be "Godless" or not. I know it is a cliché to say that "all religions are basically the same", but they are not. Doctrine does matter.
First we need to make the important disctintion of whether or not a Religion is Antichristical. yes, their are Morally Good Religions, and Morally Evil Religions. The Morally Evil Religions should not count.
If people are actually Satanic but claim to be following God, then simply looking to see if they have Churches misses the real point altogether, doesn't it.
Now, the People of Scottland have PLENTY of Churches... that's not the problem. The Problem is that the Churches are nearly all Calvinist Presbyterian... perhaps the most Anti-Christical Theology on Earth. They believe the People are saved merely because God had 'elected' them for savation, that there is no Moral Connection to this 'Election', that we can see whom God has elected by seeing how much Money people have, that God rewards the Elect by making them rich, and God shows who the Damned Reprobates are by making them Poor. Presbyterianism therefore flips the Teaching of Jesus on their end, reversing the Beatitudes (Blessed are the Poor, blah blah blah). Honestly, the World should be glad that the Scottish People had not taken it all more to heart -- Religion from the Very Devil Himself, and so few Scottish People cutting our throats in our sleep to prove their Election.
Oh, need I add that John Calvin sited Paul for all of his damnable doctrines... most of Presbyterrianism comes right out of the Epistle to the Romans, with a smattering of Coritheans.
Anyway, that's my point. The Big Question isn't about whether or not people do Lip Service to God while advancing every cause of the Devil.
The real measure would be to evaluate the relative strength of each Society in terms of their Civilization. Practically speaking we can see God as Social Cohesion. How much is each Society like Heaven. Is everyone out to stab each other in the back, like in America and Scotland, or is everyone out to lift up their entire Community as a whole -- the Golden Rule and Love Thy Neighbor... all that stuff that The Forgiveness of Sins and Predestined Election toss aside as quaint preliminaries that were invalidated the moment Jesus was murdered for our Salvation.
First we need to make the important disctintion of whether or not a Religion is Antichristical. yes, their are Morally Good Religions, and Morally Evil Religions. The Morally Evil Religions should not count.
If people are actually Satanic but claim to be following God, then simply looking to see if they have Churches misses the real point altogether, doesn't it.
Now, the People of Scottland have PLENTY of Churches... that's not the problem. The Problem is that the Churches are nearly all Calvinist Presbyterian... perhaps the most Anti-Christical Theology on Earth. They believe the People are saved merely because God had 'elected' them for savation, that there is no Moral Connection to this 'Election', that we can see whom God has elected by seeing how much Money people have, that God rewards the Elect by making them rich, and God shows who the Damned Reprobates are by making them Poor. Presbyterianism therefore flips the Teaching of Jesus on their end, reversing the Beatitudes (Blessed are the Poor, blah blah blah). Honestly, the World should be glad that the Scottish People had not taken it all more to heart -- Religion from the Very Devil Himself, and so few Scottish People cutting our throats in our sleep to prove their Election.
Oh, need I add that John Calvin sited Paul for all of his damnable doctrines... most of Presbyterrianism comes right out of the Epistle to the Romans, with a smattering of Coritheans.
Anyway, that's my point. The Big Question isn't about whether or not people do Lip Service to God while advancing every cause of the Devil.
The real measure would be to evaluate the relative strength of each Society in terms of their Civilization. Practically speaking we can see God as Social Cohesion. How much is each Society like Heaven. Is everyone out to stab each other in the back, like in America and Scotland, or is everyone out to lift up their entire Community as a whole -- the Golden Rule and Love Thy Neighbor... all that stuff that The Forgiveness of Sins and Predestined Election toss aside as quaint preliminaries that were invalidated the moment Jesus was murdered for our Salvation.
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Carcano
Valued Senior Member
Ok, Norway seems to be extraordinarily harmonious and peaceful...theyre also the home of a disproportionate number of Black Metal bands...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz9SHy7tQVU
Carcano
Valued Senior Member
Yes but were talking about the western world here...besides, most major religions have some place of institutional worship and ritual.
BTW, Didnt Mohammad regard mosque building as a waste of time???
b/c its Russian mafia that runs the whole country,and majority of people are destitute and very poor.
Leo Volont
Registered Senior Member
A Society cannot be at the same time 'harmonious and peaceful' and still have a 'high proportion' of rebellious subculture groups militating against the survival of their Primary Society. What was perhaps meant was that even an apparently Peaceful Society such as Norway has slightly under its skin some serious threats to its well-being and survival. Certainly we were not to suppose that Norway was extraordinarily harmonious and peaceful BECAUSE it had cell groups of bloody revolution organizing within its midst's? But on this page, one never knows what silliness might actually be intended.
Ok, Norway seems to be extraordinarily harmonious and peaceful...theyre also the home of a disproportionate number of Black Metal bands...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz9SHy7tQVU
Leo Volont
Registered Senior Member
Yes, building new Mosque's in an area of the World that already has plenty of old Mosques WOULD be a waste of time. But I'm sure he was not speaking of virgin territories and new towns where it is only logical that the building of New Mosques receive at least the same priority that the Jewish inhabitants would place for Pawn Shops and Porno Emporiums.
Carcano
Valued Senior Member
Yes, but why did this happen to Russia and not Finland?
Perhaps it has something to do being bankrupted by military spending, and no longer being able to afford a legal infrastructure.
I say Sweden.
Scotland most certainly isn't much like a least religious society. Everyone there pretty much goes to catholic schools and levels of atheism are only moderately high (about 30-50%).
Britain still very much has the cock of religion firmly up it's ass. This 'tradition' argument wins in the eyes of politicians who say "faith schools are here to stay".
Scotland most certainly isn't much like a least religious society. Everyone there pretty much goes to catholic schools and levels of atheism are only moderately high (about 30-50%).
Britain still very much has the cock of religion firmly up it's ass. This 'tradition' argument wins in the eyes of politicians who say "faith schools are here to stay".