More Israeli Land theft

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The Housing Ministry is pushing forward with the construction of more than 1,000 residential units in East Jerusalem's Har Homa neighborhood on land held by "absentee" Palestinians from the Bethlehem area. The move is in violation of both an instruction from the attorney general to stop applying the absentee law in East Jerusalem and explicit promises to the U.S. not to apply that law in the capital's eastern quarters.

The new neighborhood is planned for east of the already-constructed Har Homa, in close proximity to Beit Sahur and Bethlehem. If built, it would isolate Bethlehem completely from the Palestinian neighborhoods south of Jerusalem.

The land is farmland owned by about 600 Beit Sahur families who worked the plots until the construction of the separation fence in the area.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/941798.html
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Build a separation wall, prevent Palestinian access to their lands, declare them absentees and steal the land
Business as usual
 
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Eventually, there is going to be a massive uprising, Another Intifada, (if there isn't one underway already). Not as long as there are expansionists in power.
 
Perhaps that is the idea. Uprisings can be resisted and crushed. There are 4 million people to be got rid of.
 
I save MrSpocks time here now... ;)

...Yeah, another Zionist plot huh :D Damn those evil Zionists :cool:
 
More news:

The government is refusing to publish a database containing full details about the settlement enterprise in the territories, including outposts and neighborhoods built across the Green Line. In response to a High Court of Justice petition on the matter, the Defense Ministry is arguing that publication would harm state security and Israel's foreign relations.
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http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/942126.html

This had got to be the funniest thing I have ever read.

They don't want to release information on all the settlements because the Palestinians (and decent Israelis) and the world won't like what they've done? :roflmao:
 
Bush and Olmert will play to the camera again.

Look for smiley pics with handshakes, and the appearance of "getting things done"

The U.S. leader has already made clear that the outposts are one of the main issues he plans to discuss with Olmert during his visit. In several media interviews in recent days, he has termed settlement expansion an obstacle to peace and stressed that Israel must honor its promise to evacuate illegal outposts.

Government sources said that Olmert has held a series of discussions on the outposts recently and has been briefed on the Defense Ministry's efforts to reach an agreement with the settlers on evacuating them voluntarily. "We've tried to reach an agreement, but so far the settlers haven't presented satisfactory options," one source said.

Olmert will tell Bush that Israel has no intention of accepting illegal settlement activity, the sources added. "There is also a domestic Israeli desire not to leave something illegal on the ground, and a way will be found to deal with this," one source quoted Olmert as planning to say.
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See how this contradicts with the OP. Illegal is a state of Israeli mind. All they have to do is make it legal under Israeli law.

Maybe Bush is coming to give pointers on how to legalise murder, theft and torture?

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/942129.html
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The palestinians know that the US is hardly neutral, they won't accept anything from this summit. HAMAS is the legitimate govt. But then all the aid and economy froze up.. So much for democracy.. I would get pissed off at this, but I'm stuck in Asia and i don't intend to become a politician..
 
In response to a High Court of Justice petition on the matter, the Defense Ministry is arguing that publication would harm state security and foreign relations.
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Wow. Where have I heard that before?
 
Challenger78 said:
HAMAS is the legitimate govt. So much for democracy.
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I'm as uncomfortable as anybody with a government that makes their top priority the attacking of civilians on the other side of their border. Even the Israelis make an attempt to target shooters, they don't just lob bombs over the fence completely indiscriminately.

But just as Americans have to accept their share of responsibility for the conditions in Mexico that motivate massive immigration (apparently my people's biggest gripe, of all the things wrong with the world to gripe about), Israelis have to accept their share of responsibility for the conditions in Palestine that motivate these attacks and got Hamas elected (their biggest gripe).

You can't just sit and bitch about people shooting at you when you're the one who made them so frustrated that they can't think of anything else to do. Sure, in the short run you have to defend yourself against the shooting, but in the long run you have to do something about the conditions you've created.

I've only had the opportunity to talk about this with one Israeli. She feels exactly the same way we do about Israeli policy. She gave up and emigrated to America. She misses her friends and family but she doesn't go to bed every night feeling quite as guilty. Still she wishes there was more she could do. According to her there are a lot of Israelis who feel that way, they just aren't quite ready to emigrate. The problem is that once you let something like this endure for two generations, as Israel has, a lot of people lose track of the underlying themes and all they notice is the shooting. That's how the Israeli government gets so much support from its people. They've let them slide down to Step One on Maslow's Hierarchy, where you don't have the time and energy to care about how your "enemy" feels, or why.

I understand why the USA supported Israel during the Cold War. The entire Middle East was a chessboard and the people who live there were just pawns. (Obviously I didn't like it, but at least I understood.) I don't understand why we have to continue this support now that the Cold War is over. It can't possibly be doing us any good. It's one of the many reasons radical Islamists have for hating us, and I don't see any strategic value to it. Even if the Bush Dynasty's current Gulf War were legitimately necessary for our security, Israel would hardly spring to our aid militarily. Every Muslim country in the world including Indonesia, Albania and Uganda would send troops.
 
Fraggle Rocker said:
I've only had the opportunity to talk about this with one Israeli. She feels exactly the same way we do about Israeli policy. She gave up and emigrated to America. She misses her friends and family but she doesn't go to bed every night feeling quite as guilty. Still she wishes there was more she could do. According to her there are a lot of Israelis who feel that way, they just aren't quite ready to emigrate.
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This is changing; I've met many Israelis settled in America and they urge everyone they can to leave Israel. Many younger people are leaving, if not to the US then to Russia.
Every Muslim country in the world including Indonesia, Albania and Uganda would send troops.
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That is one reason I do not support a centralised Islamic authority. The repercussions of being able to direct 1.5 billion people (theoretically) or at least Islamic majority governments (which would ultimately end up polarising Muslims vs non-Muslims) could be horrendous.
 
That is one reason I do not support a centralised Islamic authority. The repercussions of being able to direct 1.5 billion people (theoretically) or at least Islamic majority governments (which would ultimately end up polarising Muslims vs non-Muslims) could be horrendous.
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Yeah, but when the 1.5 billion are divided under incompetent rulers with notorious records of foreign affiliation, they just end up killing each other. Is that truly better?
 
Kadark said:
Yeah, but when the 1.5 billion are divided under incompetent rulers with notorious records of foreign affiliation, they just end up killing each other. Is that truly better?
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Lets see. a few people killing each other vs everybody killing each other.

Tough choice. :scratchin:
 
S.A.M. said:
Lets see. a few people killing each other vs everybody killing each other.

Tough choice. :scratchin:
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What are you talking about? Why would every Muslim start killing each other under a central authority? Independence and division has done nothing but make Muslims the bitches of America. Of course, the pro-American members of the board would support your idea over mine any day. I wonder why...

:scratchin:
 
Ikrama Sabri, a preacher in the Al-Aksa mosque and Mufti of Jerusalem, called on all Muslims to conquer Jerusalem and “the rest of Palestine which is under Zionist occupation.” Sabri warned that any Muslim or Muslim government who did not work to conquer these lands would be committing a sin.

Sabri also repeated earlier claims that Israel’s repair work and archeological digs in Jerusalem’s Old City would damage the Al-Aksa mosque, despite the fact that international teams have declared the mosque to be completely safe. Sabri called on the Muslim world not to wait for a clear danger to the mosque, but rather to preemptively force Israel to stop the work. Even if the work does not threaten the mosque, he said, it is an attack on Muslim authority in the Old City

the religion of peace-free of gays NOW!
 
Mr.Spock said:
Ikrama Sabri, a preacher in the Al-Aksa mosque and Mufti of Jerusalem, called on all Muslims to conquer Jerusalem and “the rest of Palestine which is under Zionist occupation.” Sabri warned that any Muslim or Muslim government who did not work to conquer these lands would be committing a sin.

Sabri also repeated earlier claims that Israel’s repair work and archeological digs in Jerusalem’s Old City would damage the Al-Aksa mosque, despite the fact that international teams have declared the mosque to be completely safe. Sabri called on the Muslim world not to wait for a clear danger to the mosque, but rather to preemptively force Israel to stop the work. Even if the work does not threaten the mosque, he said, it is an attack on Muslim authority in the Old City

the religion of peace-free of gays now!
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Good for him! Take back your country from occupiers!:p
 
Mr.Spock said:
Ikrama Sabri, a preacher in the Al-Aksa mosque and Mufti of Jerusalem, called on all Muslims to conquer Jerusalem and “the rest of Palestine which is under Zionist occupation.” Sabri warned that any Muslim or Muslim government who did not work to conquer these lands would be committing a sin.

Sabri also repeated earlier claims that Israel’s repair work and archeological digs in Jerusalem’s Old City would damage the Al-Aksa mosque, despite the fact that international teams have declared the mosque to be completely safe. Sabri called on the Muslim world not to wait for a clear danger to the mosque, but rather to preemptively force Israel to stop the work. Even if the work does not threaten the mosque, he said, it is an attack on Muslim authority in the Old City

the religion of peace-free of gays NOW!
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Who cares? The Israeli government ought to be demolished, and its fervent supporters along with their country should be burned to the ground.

S.A.M. said:
Good for him! Take back your country from occupiers!:p
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Cat got your tongue?
 
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