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[Buffalo Roam]

the jump from middle class to upper class isn't easy very few people get the chance your son if he is successful as you think he is will make upper middle class easy. and i am not making excuses hard work alone is not always enough to rise above poverty it is though almost always a to provide from you and your family but we talking about rising up out of poverty. i know what hard work can do my dad started out low as possible and att and managed to get as far as he possibly could without a degree. but the age of working hard rise above poverty is over. sucks but it is true to get a decent job to rise in economic class in this age you need a college or technical degree which the really poor cannot afford to get.

So join the Military, they will pay for it, and you will get a education, but then expect to work your ass off getting some were, physical work isn't the only hard work out their, any job if you do it correctly will be hard work, and getting the job will be hard work, even with a education you will still need to work your ass off, some times 50..60...70 hours a week, just because you don't have to use your mussels doesn't mean the work isn't hard, wait till you do a 16 hour day after a storm rolls through, repairing ATM till after midnight, and come home with a blazing head ache, and have to go out and do the same thing the next day, until all of the ATM are up and running, and tell me that isn't hard work.

Do 550 miles a day driving Truck, meeting a schedule, and tell me that isn't hard work.

Work on a deadline for a Job proposal and tell me that isn't hard work.

Do Insurance sales, having to cold call and set up meets with prospective clients and tell me that isn't hard work.

To get ahead take hard work, and persistence, and a no quit attitude, that is how you get ahead, worry about your own ass, and forget what perceived advantage you think some one else has, even being the Boss's son don't mean that you won't have to work your ass off to get some where.

Most Fathers expect even more form their children that work for them than they do from the regular employees.

 

[TruthSeeker]

There's really one way to truly succeed. And that's being an entrepreneur. But not everyone was raised the way an entrepreneur needs to be raised. Specially with our education systems which were designed to mass produce employees. But, truly, even if you become the best employee ever and climb the ladder, you will still not be able to make a decent amount of money. You will be very, very lucky if you get to $100,000 a year. That would require a tremenduous amount of work from an employee, for his entire life. In the other hand, if you are an entrepreneur, you can get from $0 to $1,000,000 a year within just a couple of years! The secret is in knowing how to invest your money and have the guts to do it. However, most people are not raised to think like that. I bet most people don't even know there's another option other then working for a company for very little and hardly be able to survive. Paycheck-to-paycheck survival sucks!

 

[TruthSeeker]

You see.... everyone has 24 hours a day. The main difference between a successful person and an unsuccessful one is what they do with those 24 hours!

 

[pjdude1219]

So join the Military, they will pay for it, and you will get a education, but then expect to work your ass off getting some were, physical work isn't the only hard work out their, any job if you do it correctly will be hard work, and getting the job will be hard work, even with a education you will still need to work your ass off, some times 50..60...70 hours a week, just because you don't have to use your mussels doesn't mean the work isn't hard, wait till you do a 16 hour day after a storm rolls through, repairing ATM till after midnight, and come home with a blazing head ache, and have to go out and do the same thing the next day, until all of the ATM are up and running, and tell me that isn't hard work.

Do 550 miles a day driving Truck, meeting a schedule, and tell me that isn't hard work.

Work on a deadline for a Job proposal and tell me that isn't hard work.

Do Insurance sales, having to cold call and set up meets with prospective clients and tell me that isn't hard work.

To get ahead take hard work, and persistence, and a no quit attitude, that is how you get ahead, worry about your own ass, and forget what perceived advantage you think some one else has, even being the Boss's son don't mean that you won't have to work your ass off to get some where.

Most Fathers expect even more form their children that work for them than they do from the regular employees.

it seems not being asshole is to hard of work for you.

 

[pjdude1219]

There's really one way to truly succeed. And that's being an entrepreneur. But not everyone was raised the way an entrepreneur needs to be raised. Specially with our education systems which were designed to mass produce employees. But, truly, even if you become the best employee ever and climb the ladder, you will still not be able to make a decent amount of money. You will be very, very lucky if you get to $100,000 a year. That would require a tremenduous amount of work from an employee, for his entire life. In the other hand, if you are an entrepreneur, you can get from $0 to $1,000,000 a year within just a couple of years! The secret is in knowing how to invest your money and have the guts to do it. However, most people are not raised to think like that. I bet most people don't even know there's another option other then working for a company for very little and hardly be able to survive. Paycheck-to-paycheck survival sucks!

most people don't have the skills to do so also alot of people are afraid to because they won't be able to afford insurance.

 

[madanthonywayne]

Am I correct in my belief that once a drug is on the market FDA approved for X that doctor can LEGALLY give it for Y even if Y use has not been FDA approved?

Yes. In fact, most drugs do not have FDA approval for what they're actually used for. It's called "off label" use, and is the norm.

For instance, whenever a new antibiotic drop comes out, it is approved to treat conjunctivitis (pink eye). Conjuctivitis is usually a self limiting condition and very easy to treat. So it's much easier and quicker to get the approval than for something like bacterial keratitis (a corneal ulcer). Yet the new drugs are often immediately used for bacterial keratitis. And, in fact, are generally very effective.

It's a huge loophole, but thank God for it. Otherwise, innovations would be much slower and doctors would really be limited in their treatments. Sometimes we even discover uses for drugs that were never imagined or intended. Such as the use of ocular antihistimines to treat twitching of the eyelids.

I note the great economic pressure to use Avastin in the eye. I did not know it was only $50 a dose. It is obvious why Macagen fell into disfavor so quickly. I think a day or two ago I read that Avastin in a lung trial (probably Non Small Cell cancer, as that is the most common type of trials) did show some improvements, but none in life expectancy. Do not beleive FDA has acted yet on results - that is first "failed" for Avastin I know of.

The alternative anti-VEGF drugs will have to show a huge advantage over Avastin, or cut their prices dramatically.

 

[Buffalo Roam]

it seems not being asshole is to hard of work for you.

No it you have the asshole attitude, and because of it, you sit there and complain because you are not successful, you blame others for your lack of success, for their perceived advantage, the reason that they have a advantage is because they did something, they didn't shit on their ass complaining about the fact that they thought some one else had a better start on the road to success, you can start out life as a millionaire and end up broke, it has happened more than once, you can win a million dollars in the Lottery, and be broke in 5 years, check out how many of those who win the Lotteries are flat broke in ten years of winning, it is what you do, and set your mind to do.

So sit on your ass, and be poor, its no skin off on my ass, I did what was necessary to get where I am, and to insure that my son and daughter have the chance to finish what I started by moving their Family's into the Upper Income brackets, and become Millionaires.

Now guess what, I just had a meeting with our financial Manager last night, me and the wife, and we are in the range to have a Million dollars of liquid spendable wealth by the time my wife retires in 15 years, hell I thought I wasn't going to make it.

Hell me a dumb ass farm boy, no degree, and I have the possibility to have over a million dollars in my pocket, OMG, so get of your ass and just do it, start at McD flipping burgers, start any where, the Military, but start, to sit on your ass complaining get you nothing, what the government takes from me in taxes won't make you rich, and it won't get you out of poverty.

 

[pjdude1219]

No it you have the asshole attitude, and because of it, you sit there and complain because you are not successful, you blame others for your lack of success, for their perceived advantage, the reason that they have a advantage is because they did something, they didn't shit on their ass complaining about the fact that they thought some one else had a better start on the road to success, you can start out life as a millionaire and end up broke, it has happened more than once, you can win a million dollars in the Lottery, and be broke in 5 years, check out how many of those who win the Lotteries are flat broke in ten years of winning, it is what you do, and set your mind to do.

So sit on your ass, and be poor, its no skin off on my ass, I did what was necessary to get where I am, and to insure that my son and daughter have the chance to finish what I started by moving their Family's into the Upper Income brackets, and become Millionaires.

Now guess what, I just had a meeting with our financial Manager last night, me and the wife, and we are in the range to have a Million dollars of liquid spendable wealth by the time my wife retires in 15 years, hell I thought I wasn't going to make it.

Hell me a dumb ass farm boy, no degree, and I have the possibility to have over a million dollars in my pocket, OMG, so get of your ass and just do it, start at McD flipping burgers, start any where, the Military, but start, to sit on your ass complaining get you nothing, what the government takes from me in taxes won't make you rich, and it won't get you out of poverty.

you are the asshole because you've judged me as whiny and a complainer when you shit about me and my sitution i am looking for a job. i know i will be succesful my family is fairly well off and has a history of having brilliant people in it. the difference between me and you is i have empathy for those less fortunate than me.

 

[Buffalo Roam]

you are the asshole because you've judged me as whiny and a complainer when you shit about me and my sitution i am looking for a job. i know i will be succesful my family is fairly well off and has a history of having brilliant people in it. the difference between me and you is i have empathy for those less fortunate than me.

But you are still whining and complaining, and giving all the excuses in the world why it isn't your fault that you don't have a job.

I have plenty of empathy for those less fortunate than I, my wife is disabled, but she went out and found a job, on her own, started at $3.75 a hour, and is now making better than $14.00 a hour, she has been on her last job for 12 years, and that job started at $5.50 a hour.

Hell anybody can get a job at McD's, it still a paycheck at the end of the week, and most Mc.D's pay better than $7.00 a hour, to start.

 

[pjdude1219]

But you are still whining and complaining, and giving all the excuses in the world why it isn't your fault that you don't have a job.

I have plenty of empathy for those less fortunate than I, my wife is disabled, but she went out and found a job, on her own, started at $3.75 a hour, and is now making better than $14.00 a hour, she has been on her last job for 12 years, and that job started at $5.50 a hour.

Hell anybody can get a job at McD's, it still a paycheck at the end of the week, and most Mc.D's pay better than $7.00 a hour, to start.

i have never made an excuse to why i don't have job. I have owned up to i could probably try harder but i was never talking about my self personally in this thread. I'm happy that your wife though disabled was able to get a job but not disabled people can. my mom would love to be able to work fuck she'd love to be able to stand but that's not going to happen any time soon. and empathy for a loved ones is one thing empathy for a stranger is something else entirely

 

[shichimenshyo]

But you are still whining and complaining, and giving all the excuses in the world why it isn't your fault that you don't have a job.

I have plenty of empathy for those less fortunate than I, my wife is disabled, but she went out and found a job, on her own, started at $3.75 a hour, and is now making better than $14.00 a hour, she has been on her last job for 12 years, and that job started at $5.50 a hour.

Hell anybody can get a job at McD's, it still a paycheck at the end of the week, and most Mc.D's pay better than $7.00 a hour, to start.

But is that what you want for our society? A bunch of people with no other choice then to just make barely enough to survive? I dont know where you live but I could not afford to support myself of $7 an hour.

 

[Buffalo Roam]

But is that what you want for our society? A bunch of people with no other choice then to just make barely enough to survive? I dont know where you live but I could not afford to support myself of $7 an hour.

So it fair to use the government to steal money from me to support you? Were could I be, if the government hadn't taken those taxes from me to support you? maybe if the government let people keep their own money they could take care of their families and themselves.

But that is were you start, $7.00 a hour, when I started working the minimum wage was $0.85 cents a hour, and I payed taxes on that, hell you act like I am, were I am, from the start, no I was in your exact same position when I was 18, just graduated school, and didn't have a pot to piss in, couldn't afford any school, and really wasn't interested in school anyway, so I started the journey, it is the journey of life, and it is done one step at a time, one nickel at a time, one day at a time, just do it.

 

[Buffalo Roam]

i have never made an excuse to why i don't have job. I have owned up to i could probably try harder but i was never talking about my self personally in this thread. I'm happy that your wife though disabled was able to get a job but not disabled people can. my mom would love to be able to work fuck she'd love to be able to stand but that's not going to happen any time soon. and empathy for a loved ones is one thing empathy for a stranger is something else entirely

I have owned up to i could probably try harder

No you haven't, or you would, were do you think I started out...$0.85 cents a hour, and when I joined the Army my first pay check for the whole month was $98.27 after taxes, hell I have been where you are, that is where I started, I didn't like it so I changed it, and it been one hell of a trip, and now 40 years later, not bad, and it sound like its going to get better.

So change it for yourself, you are the only one that can do so.

 

[pjdude1219]

No you haven't, or you would, were do you think I started out...$0.85 cents a hour, and when I joined the Army my first pay check for the whole month was $98.27 after taxes, hell I have been where you are, that is where I started, I didn't like it so I changed it, and it been one hell of a trip, and now 40 years later, not bad, and it sound like its going to get better.

So change it for yourself, you are the only one that can do so.

85 cents an just how old are you i think when my dad was a kid starting wages were higher than that and he is almost 60

 

[Buffalo Roam]

85 cents an just how old are you i think when my dad was a kid starting wages were higher than that and he is almost 60

I am with in a year of two of your dad, and no starting wages back then were $0.85 cents a hour, now that doesn't mean that people weren't making more, or that there weren't jobs that started higher, and as alway with some skill trades you could start right out of Trade School at $4.00 to $5.00 a hour, my mom worked in a shoe factory, as a die bender, if I remember right she made $1.95 a hour, considered a good wage back then, but she had worked there 5 years.

 

[pjdude1219]

I am with in a year of two of your dad, and no starting wages back then were $0.85 cents a hour, now that doesn't mean that people weren't making more, or that there weren't jobs that started higher, and as alway with some skill trades you could start right out of Trade School at $4.00 to $5.00 a hour, my mom worked in a shoe factory, as a die bender, if I remember right she made $1.95 a hour, considered a good wage back then, but she had worked there 5 years.

well his first job was working for his dad but after that he worked at att. no idea what he started at. god i didn't reliaze prices increased that much since then.

 

[Buffalo Roam]

well his first job was working for his dad but after that he worked at att. no idea what he started at. god i didn't reliaze prices increased that much since then.

I am trying to give your some hard earned wisdom, I have been through what you are facing now, and it is life, and life isn't fair, but you have to live it anyway, so start doing it, and don't stop, fight for everything you want, and its going to be three steps forward, two steps back, but if you do it, step by step you will get where you want to be, yes there were time I became disillusioned, and though life wasn't fair when I saw someone getting ahead faster than I was, but in the end, I found out that was wasted energy and time, I had to do it, just do it, and was I shocked when some one said that I had advantages in my life that he didn't have, and that is why he was ended up in prison.

He is my Cousin, and he had the exact same chances I did, but he worried about life being unfair, and that other people had advantages that he didn't have, so he went for the short cut, and look where it ended up, when he gets out of prison he will still be where he was at when he went in, and 40 years behind.

 

[pjdude1219]

I am trying to give your some hard earned wisdom, I have been through what you are facing now, and it is life, and life isn't fair, but you have to live it anyway, so start doing it, and don't stop, fight for everything you want, and its going to be three steps forward, two steps back, but if you do it, step by step you will get where you want to be, yes there were time I became disillusioned, and though life wasn't fair when I saw someone getting ahead faster than I was, but in the end, I found out that was wasted energy and time, I had to do it, just do it, and was I shocked when some one said that I had advantages in my life that he didn't have, and that is why he was ended up in prison.

He is my Cousin, and he had the exact same chances I did, but he worried about life being unfair, and that other people had advantages that he didn't have, so he went for the short cut, and look where it ended up, when he gets out of prison he will still be where he was at when he went in, and 40 years behind.

don't worry i am not that stupid i won't do anything illegal and i'm not so worried about people like my but in parts of the country where the infastrucre has gone to shit places like that can be almost self sustaining in there badness and i think we should help people get out of that but only if they have shown they are willing to work to get out of it. as my dad taught me if someone has advantages over you screw show them you can get to the same places they can.

 

[TruthSeeker]

Buffalo, you still haven't asnwer my question. The purchase power of $1 was A LOT different 40 years ago. So how much was it worth?

 

[Buffalo Roam]

Buffalo, you still haven't asnwer my question. The purchase power of $1 was A LOT different 40 years ago. So how much was it worth?

What question?

I guess it was worth what it was worth, remember we had a lot less of it, my first jobs paid $34.00 a week, but I was still at home, in school, I was a pin setter, $.15 cents a frame, and I worked at a gas station, $.85 cents a hour,
and I paid taxes on that income.

How do you judge the worth of the Dollar as you live life, yes they have what is called adjusted for inflation, but when you adjust for inflation thing are cheaper today than they were back then.

The first hand held calculator I bought for the job in 1972 cost me $119.00, and that was a simple Add...Subtract...Multiply...Divide, the last calculator I bought was a Texas Instruments Scientific Calculator, and it was $19.95, so you tell me what the relationship is?