Mods Gone Wild
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This is old news. If you wish, you may review the thread where I carefully and expansively explained the circumstances behind SAM's banning.
Old news. Get over it. Move on with your life.
superstring01
Moderator
If you're afraid of people on the internet, then you're the biggest wuss of them all. Shit! I'd hate to see you in real life. When you see a mean girl, do you run crying home to mommy? Don't EVER pretend to be a tough-guy after this last post. You've forever earned the title "crybaby" for good.
But that said, and I don't know if you've actually bothered reading (you usually don't, which is the source of most of your troubles here), people have stated much worse within this thread. I am unable to do ANYTHING about it unless they are going off the deep end. While I'm sure that, at some point, you'll go there on your own, I think you're pretty much free to speak your mind. What I think you really are afraid of is the fact that, except just a few people, most members see you as the dumbest person on this board. Honestly, Draq, you really aren't that smart. You are a troll who posts the absolute stupidest shit I've ever seen on this website (non-stop, off topic, homophobia, out of place Russian nationalism, unsupported grandiose assertions: you've got it all), and I've seen a lot of stupid shit. I get more complaints about your stupidity than anybody else. So, if you want to start this little argument about how I'm the big bad moderator who always chases after you, then GO FOR IT!
I keep notes. I'd love to point out your examples of pure, distilled retarded-ness. It's unfortunate that, in order to deal with you properly, a moderator has to be practically appointed JUST to deal with your stupidity, but this is the case with me. The amount of time I have to spend, sifting through the complaints, tracking down your nonsense, and correcting it is staggering and one quick way to free my time up to spend it on more pressing matters, would be for you to go away. While I'm of the opinion that an immediate permanent ban--which you've well earned--would be best, I rest comfortably knowing that you'll get there ALL on your own in due course.
So, if you'd like to provide examples, quotes of specific posts, that I've been a big bad meanie to you, then let'er rip! Let's see what'cha got pal.
~String
LOL! The irony blows my mind.
Too late....
superstring01
Moderator
There is always irony in truth, especially when someone like Draq breaks rules, gets punished then fails to grasp that he is the root of all his problems. You see this a lot in life.
People will wallow in self-pity over how horrible they have it, and wonder how it all went wrong, but usually fail to grasp that they were there every time they failed. They were there when all the mistakes. And it was they who were there every time the shit hit the fan. There is no secret here: Draq is the source of all his troubles. He's just a bit too immature to realize that.
Irony? Maybe. But, it isn't my job to avoid fitting into his self-imposed pattern just to avoid being called names. I can live with that.
~String
superstring01
Moderator
Too late for what? He hasn't been "retaliated against". He's been challenged to act like a man for once and support his claims. Watch now what he does. It usually involves non sequiturs, squeals of mistreatment, than a run for the door. It's a patter I've seen for over two years now with him and expect it to continue now.
~String
superstring01
Moderator
As I said. This is a pattern of his.
It always involves making grandiose claims ("Russia is a superpower!"; "Americans are Evil!", "String is mean to me!") and then running for the door.
I mean, REALLY! If I really were going to "retaliate" for him taking swipes at me, and I REALLY COULD "retaliate" against him and get away with it, wouldn't I just do it for his opening salvo there? Wouldn't that be enough? Shouldn't I just continue on my Machiavellian plans against him and ban him right there? Muah-ha-ha-haaaaaa!
Nope. See, there is no issue here. Every single one of Draq's bans have been as a result of him posting hate speech or trolling. Most of which were reported by other members, on multiple occasions. Draq has been given ALL the warnings he deserves, it's just usually me that takes care of his nonsense in the forum. But, like a typical coward, he drops bon mots, and then runs for cover rather than supporting his great claims.
And. . . we'll see it again here too.
~String
Bells
Staff member
superstring01
Moderator
Um. You know this is Draq, you're talking aboot, eh? [shit. . . you're Aussie, not Canadia. Sorry]
~String
Bells
Staff member
You thought I was Canadian?
Now that's just going too far! Mod brutality! MOD BRUTALITY!!
superstring01
Moderator
Canadian's are cool, eh.
But, no. I knew you were from Oz.
Hey, good news, Aussieland. The USA will begin importing the "Caprice" from your nation soon. While the name has gone on in Oz, it's been discontinued for over a decade here.
~String
Bells
Staff member
getting back on topic....
sam
elaborate on the warnings
justify your pov
then ridicule the perps if you can
thanks
Now showing
Sciforums High Society, The Movie
Starring String Crosby
Frank James R
Gustav Kelly
Special guest star. Louis Samstrong, as the annoying Jazz musician.
Memorable dialogue.
Gustav: Come on Sammy, play us a tune.
Frank: Oh No, we know what's coming.
Sammy(on trombone) Parp Pwarp! Pee Parp Pweee Parp.
String: Shucks Sammy, we heard that tune a zillion times. Can't you play anything else?
Sammy: Boss, tell 'em off. They's actin' just like Hitler.
Sciforums High Society, The Movie
Starring String Crosby
Frank James R
Gustav Kelly
Special guest star. Louis Samstrong, as the annoying Jazz musician.
Memorable dialogue.
Gustav: Come on Sammy, play us a tune.
Frank: Oh No, we know what's coming.
Sammy(on trombone) Parp Pwarp! Pee Parp Pweee Parp.
String: Shucks Sammy, we heard that tune a zillion times. Can't you play anything else?
Sammy: Boss, tell 'em off. They's actin' just like Hitler.
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Mrs.Lucysnow
Valued Senior Member
He doesn't speak for the group. No member who starts a community can claim to speak for an entire group unless there is a stated agenda to which everyone agrees and there has been no stated agenda. So far the only statement for membership seems to be this:
"Sometimes controversy is the only way forward to truth. The purpose of this group is for cool people to celebrate free-thought, fluid opinions, intellect, wit, creativity, style, and unbridled humor for those mature enough to share the joke." Willnever
So you see there was never an invitation to join because of 'genuine concerns' due to sciforums moderation or anything else save 'celebrating free thought'. As of yet, probably due to member time constraints, there has been little serious threads or discussion in the group about anything in particular save what other members the present members would like to join. If you check out the member list you will see we are all individually too obstreperous to allow any one person to speak for any one of us.
I mean can you imagine trying to get a consensus out of kira, sam, strawdog, shorty, visceral instinct, geoff, norsefire and psychotropic including myself and the others? Lol! Now that would be rich! It would be disingenuous to say the group represents 'free thought and fluid opinion' and then go on to say it represents the one opinion of the one person who started said group. If the group's purpose is simply a kind of political rallying against moderation on sciforums or any one mod in particular then it should state this as criteria for membership.
But so far we've had this:
HIgh Society Badge
Scifes: before we put it on..(ok you all already have it on)..before we start handing it out to people, or discussing who is worthy of it and who's not, maybe we should actually try to know what it means, what it stands for, what's it's relevance? till now what i think of this group is it's a group of people who can think freely, handpicked by Willnever. Shouldn't we start acting like one? i mean as a group? shouldn't we establish an identity for ourselves first?
Willnever: Scifes this group does not need a specific mission at all times. High society is a union of people who are supposed to have like-minded attitudes towards openness and free thought. We may rise to the call when a common goal presents itself (and indeed I am sure it will) but I have to tell you: you have already exhibited statements that fly against High Society's ideals. "LOL at nudity being a healthy and natural theme," being one. This is not a group for immature censors. This is not a group for nude prudes. This is not a group for people who are ashamed of their bodies and think nudity is icky. This is DEFINITELY not a group for people who scoff at the opinions of others. The same disrespect and rudeness that is routine on the general forums will not take place here. This is a group for people who appreciate each other's ideas and respond to them maturely and *respectfully.* If you feel that doesn't describe you, then perhaps this group isn't a good place for you.
Now being a person who isn't a 'nude prude' we can see that the notion of membership is 'like minded attitudes towards openness and free thought. Definitely not a group for people who scoff at the opinions of others'. Yet scifes objecting to a nude photo led to an offense to which he replied:
"there shouldn't be any offense taken in an open minded group, to take offense at another's view is to not accept it, to be closed to it, even when that view is but the rejection of your view."
http://www.sciforums.com/group.php?do=discuss&group=&discussionid=97
So you see an open minded community cannot have a consensus when it comes to opinion unless its really all about 'group think'. Its also why there will always be controversy around moderation as there will always be someone who is offended by some action or find it unwarranted and others who think it just.
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Lucy: most members of the group have gone on record agreeing with my statement in this thread. If you feel that my words do not represent you, then you are im the minority. You are allowing your longstanding dislike of SAM affect your thinking.
Her longstanding experience with S.A.M, not dislike. I know Lucy, and I am sure that if S.A.M could act in a reasonable and honest manner, she wouldn't have a problem. But you seem to be putting the cart before the horse on this. We like S.A.M when she is not off on one of her heretical tirades. I've stated that many many times, as has Lucysnow. Lucy is one of the more honest and open posters about this.
Free speech is one thing, carte blanche is another. Hatred and bigotry should never be considered the "norm" for a society who values free speech. Free speech only works if you have a community that can temper their passions with reasonability, sanity and logic in an honest discourse. Which, in my opinion cannot be had at this time with the current members of sciforums. There is an us vs. them mentality brought on by yapping dogs, insane bigots and dishonest potheads who've lost their relevance and are furiously trying to make themselves relevant again. Resolve the conflict, and then we can go back to our regularly scheduled program.
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